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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Who still thinks this has something to do with preserving our health system?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    When is that going to be? How many jobs will be lost in the meantime? How many medical screenings and appointments will be missed? How many persons will end up with serious mental health issues? And if this is a seasonal virus are you happy to go through this ****e again next winter??

    Had the measures been maintained before Christmas we would not be where we are now with the required level of restrictions.

    That's spilt milk under the bridge.

    Have lessons really not been learned? Some want to make the exact same catastrophic error again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Agree, game is up after Easter

    Yeah? What's actually going to happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,883 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Who still thinks this has something to do with preserving our health system?


    Havnt we been told for weeks , the numbers are continually dropping for hospital/ICU numbers since lockdown.


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  • Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who still thinks this has something to do with preserving our health system?

    You can tell that it is, because the government immediately advised people to start taking vitamin D when it became clear it was preventative, and because when models predicting far worse numbers than we saw in December/January were the basis for decision-making, government immediately stepped up to procure many more ventilators and train healthcare workers in how t—

    Oh, never mind. Carry on.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    In better news, Pfizer has today reported a one-dose efficacy of 92.6% after two weeks, and are advising that a one-dose regimen should be adopted in order to get more people vaccinated faster, deferring second doses until later.

    The current UK strategy, basically. So Pfizer vaccinations doubled if governments listen to the manufacturer.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2036242

    Where does that state that Pfizer have publicly stated that second doses can be delayed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    I love Michaels "it's a long lockdown but it will be worth it". Easy enough to say that on €200,000+ a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Mirror Exclusive: Nine more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1362519182374547458


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,883 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    RobitTV wrote: »

    They cant organise the vaccinations , all they can do is extend lockdown indefitly , while the rest of the world opens up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Had the measures been maintained before Christmas we would not be where we are now with the required level of restrictions.

    That's spilt milk under the bridge.

    Have lessons really not been learned? Some want to make the exact same catastrophic error again.

    Ah will you come out of the clouds.

    We shouldn't have left lockdown level 3 in Oct...it was nuts then and it is nuts now.

    We were getting a winter surge, the health service had 8 months to prepare for it, they could have advised us all to boost our immune systems, they could have done a lot more to protect the residents of the care home....they did nothing of the sort.

    We probably have one of the most dysfunctional Health Systems in the developed world, our leading health officials are a product of that system.

    Too many people have been conditioned to believe that meeting your parents is dangerous....it is madness!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Mirror Exclusive: Nine more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1362519182374547458

    Holohan and the government are really trying to crush/destroy people mentally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    thebaz wrote: »
    They cant organise the vaccinations , all they can do is extend lockdown indefitly , while the rest of the world opens up.

    95% of vaccines are in arms, and the North extended their lockdown till April....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Mirror Exclusive: Nine more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1362519182374547458

    lol.

    Absolute cowboys, doom and gloom central.

    Cowards releasing stuff like that late in the evening.


  • Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Mirror Exclusive: Nine more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1362519182374547458

    That's enough for me. Off to see family on the weekend.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This essentially is the State refusing to accept that the virus is seasonal.

    This is the biggest, most monumental gamble FF and FG and The Greens have ever embarked on and I doubt they realize it....people have had enough and are right to have had enough, this is the ego of one man driving this, Tony Houlihan....he has been a problem form the very start.

    You still don’t get that the route to a virus becoming seasonal is through mass exposure/ vaccination. It’s how all the significant seasonal respiratory infections became seasonal. Spanish Flu, Hong Kong Flu, the 4 other human corona viruses, all required an inherent immunity to retreat to seasonal variants. Most catch them as a child when at lower risk and retain a level of resistance for life. Covid is on that route. We are accelerating that process through vaccination. Waiting a few weeks for the vaccination programme to start to have a impact is not outrageous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    You know the same thing has been said every single month in relation to some manufactured date on here since the start

    This country can't open up with 100's of cases per day. It would be a greater and more costly error than Christmas.

    We can if the north does


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Graham wrote: »
    Nobody here is vilifying travel.

    Try again

    There are literally Gardai sitting in the airport waiting to fine/arrest people. But it’s not vilified haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,883 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Holohan and the government are really trying to crush/destroy people mentally

    They are doing a great job of that , yet no one is questioning what they should be doing , like rolling out the vaccine effectivly like our neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Mirror Exclusive: Nine more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1362519182374547458

    MEhole Martin - Ireland’s greatest ever COWARD.


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  • Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    Where does that state that Pfizer have publicly stated that second doses can be delayed?

    I misread it. The letter is from scientists who used Pfizer data, not direct from Pfizer. Post edited for clarity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    RobitTV wrote: »

    Leaking this **** at 11pm at night just goes to show they’ve no idea of the mental fragility of the nation. People are hanging on by a thread as it is and have to hear of this crap before they go to bed. They’re completely out of touch in every single aspect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 SushiLover31


    Is there any way that people can stand against this extension of lockdown? I find it so bizzare that there is no opposition to this. (Except for the ones who deny the existence of Covid-19 altogether). Where can people who want some level of normality back go to have their voices heard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    This Government has to go. We need an election in July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Bigfatmichael


    Fu**ck em, i'm done with restrictions. The government have actually broken me.

    Ive saved enough over the last year working from home so I dont give a flying feck if i get multiple hundred euro fines. They can shove it you know where.

    Will go for a nice drive now the weekend and maybe to the beach, some mountain biking and hil walking as well.

    Will have a few mates over for cans as well.

    I'm done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    You still don’t get that the route to a virus becoming seasonal is through mass exposure/ vaccination. It’s how all the significant seasonal respiratory infections became seasonal. Spanish Flu, Hong Kong Flu, the 4 other human corona viruses, all required an inherent immunity to retreat to seasonal variants. Most catch them as a child when at lower risk and retain a level of resistance for life. Covid is on that route. We are accelerating that process through vaccination. Waiting a few weeks for the vaccination programme to start to have a impact is not outrageous.

    Stop thinking of the virus as seasonal for one second...it's clear you have consumed media that can't make you think straight.

    What is seasonal is the collective immune system, which is much weaker in winter months....if you actually still believe that level 5 lockdowns for another 9 weeks is proportional then I'm not sure you can be reasoned with...it is utter madness, we are already in one of the strictest lockdowns in the world...it will become the longest by the time we are let out.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    This Government has to go. We need an election in July.

    The opposition support this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Drifter50



    This is just beyond depressing. There is no hope for anything normal this year. I was in business with a partner when it all went txxs up back in 2015. I could see no hope for the future and I found myself standing beside the Dublin railway line wanting to end it. I managed to walk away that time, fought my way back and had got a new business and my finances under control in early 2019. Now its all gone to ashes, savings gone , credit card maxed, paid mortgage 5 months out of 12 last year and none this year. They have to find a way to open up and let us do business again, I`m sliding backwards into a black abyss and I`m sure there are thousands like me


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