Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

IAMAMORON · 16-02-2021 02:30PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

How can we have any trust that it would only be another 2 months?

Fool me once...

Honestly at this point I don't care if it is actually 3 months.

As I said... I just want it done now.

ShyMets · 16-02-2021 02:32PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Nope the truth. "Do the crime be prepared to pay the fine".

I've been traveling beyond the 5k limit. But rest easy. its been for child care purposes.

So all above board

Kunta Kinte · 16-02-2021 02:44PM

ShyMets wrote: »

I've been traveling beyond the 5k limit. But rest easy. its been for child care purposes.

So all above board

If you say so.

ShyMets · 16-02-2021 02:49PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

If you say so.

I do. It's permitted and within the guidelines

El_Duderino 09 · 16-02-2021 03:04PM

Tazz T wrote: »

Then the north is going to be a lot more attractive for staycationing (or flying on somewhere else)

Oh yes, of course. The north was the route a lot of people took to get to the Republic at Christmas too.

Bigfatmichael · 16-02-2021 05:01PM

ShyMets wrote: »

I do. It's permitted and within the guidelines

We've got a badass over here

16-02-2021 07:22PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

You and others may have no choice but to do that. Anyone who has any notions of flouting the regulations had better be prepared to face the consequences.

Some regulations are there to be broken and that 5km is one of them

. Havent stuck to it since the pandemic and dont intend to do so weather its visiting my partner who lives 70kms away or going out for exercise (running/cycling)

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 07:27PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some regulations are there to be broken and that 5km is one of them . Havent stuck to it since the pandemic and dont intend to do so weather its visiting my partner who lives 70kms away or going out for exercise (running/cycling)

Once the sunnier warmer weather comes that’ll be out the window. I can’t see two 5 foot nothing Gardai approaching a gang of teens from Kilbarrack on Portmarnock beach and telling them to go home. It’s pretty much only easy targets for them out at the moment, bored lonely people out for a drive to clear their heads etc. When trouble starts moving again you’ll see the Gardai go back into their shells quick enough.

PTH2009 · 16-02-2021 08:00PM

Sounding like it will be 'outdoor dining' only for the summer and what a struggle that could turn into trying to get in somewhere

hynesie08 · 16-02-2021 08:16PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Sounding like it will be 'outdoor dining' only for the summer and what a struggle that could turn into trying to get in somewhere

Where do you live that seems to hate money so much?

A struggle?

"Afternoon, any tables"
"yes/no/only for an hour/will in an hour"
"thanks/no worries/I was hoping to stay longer/sound I'll come back in an hour"

Jobs a goodun......

beggars_bush · 16-02-2021 08:25PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Sounding like it will be 'outdoor dining' only for the summer and what a struggle that could turn into trying to get in somewhere

If then that's the recommendation then pubs will just have to make a call on it

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 08:28PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Where do you live that seems to hate money so much?

A struggle?

"Afternoon, any tables"
"yes/no/only for an hour/will in an hour"
"thanks/no worries/I was hoping to stay longer/sound I'll come back in an hour"

Jobs a goodun......

Any tables? No, we can’t afford DCCs extortionate fees. Number 4 varies from €200-€500 per square yard.

pjohnson · 16-02-2021 08:29PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Any tables? No, we can’t afford DCCs extortionate fees. Number 4 varies from €200-€500 per square yard.

Sorry I thought this was a restaurant. My mistake.

hynesie08 · 16-02-2021 08:31PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Any tables? No, we can’t afford DCCs extortionate fees. Number 4 varies from €200-€500 per square yard.

And yet when it was introduced in Dublin, you couldn't walk from one end of the street to the other without seeing mismatched school furniture and pop up marquees in loading zones.........

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 08:33PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Sorry I thought this was a restaurant. My mistake.

Fees apply to ANY business that wants to put furniture outside. Pub, cafe, restaurant or hotel.

Ha Long Bay · 16-02-2021 08:33PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Any tables? No, we can’t afford DCCs extortionate fees. Number 4 varies from €200-€500 per square yard.

"Dublin Chamber has welcomed the move by Dublin City Council to waive charges on the placement of tables and chairs within the public realm.

Dublin Chamber, the representative group for businesses in the Dublin region, said the move will help many cafes and restaurants in the city to reopen and recover more quickly."

https://www.dublinchamber.ie/media/news/june-2020/chamber-welcomes-waiver-of-outdoor-furniture-fees

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 08:35PM

john4321 wrote: »

"Dublin Chamber has welcomed the move by Dublin City Council to waive charges on the placement of tables and chairs within the public realm.

Dublin Chamber, the representative group for businesses in the Dublin region, said the move will help many cafes and restaurants in the city to reopen and recover more quickly."

https://www.dublinchamber.ie/media/news/june-2020/chamber-welcomes-waiver-of-outdoor-furniture-fees

We are well past the six months it was waived for last summer. Did you read your link? Or just see the headline and think Gotcha??

hynesie08 · 16-02-2021 08:37PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

We are well past the six months it was waived for last summer. Did you read your link? Or just see the headline and think Gotcha??

Why would you extend it when pubs and cafes aren't allowed have any seats?

Ha Long Bay · 16-02-2021 08:39PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

We are well past the six months it was waived for last summer. Did you read your link? Or just see the headline and think Gotcha??

Jan 2021

https://councilmeetings.dublincity.ie/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=30667

"Street furniture Unit
The CE has established the Public Spaces Working Group to assess applications for
temporary Covid 19 street furniture permits (free for 6 months) to assist cafes/restaurants
etc. in reopening. In addition all existing street furniture licence holders are being offered a
free 6 month extension on existing licences. Over 320 applications have been received to
date."

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 08:40PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Why would you extend it when pubs and cafes aren't allowed have any seats?

I’ve no say over expanding it. DCC made no mention of expanding if after the initial 6 months. As it stands, fees are applicable for street furniture. If that changes fair enough, but there is nothing so far to suggest it will. DCC will have lost a lot of money from the lockdowns too.

weldoninhio · 16-02-2021 08:42PM

john4321 wrote: »

Jan 2021

https://councilmeetings.dublincity.ie/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=30667

"Street furniture Unit
The CE has established the Public Spaces Working Group to assess applications for
temporary Covid 19 street furniture permits (free for 6 months) to assist cafes/restaurants
etc. in reopening. In addition all existing street furniture licence holders are being offered a
free 6 month extension on existing licences. Over 320 applications have been received to
date."

That’s fair enough.

kenmc · 16-02-2021 10:32PM

poppers wrote: »

Pubs were not supposed to be open the €9 substanstial meal is what is required to have a restaurant licence.
the VFI kicked up a fuss that pubs selling meals should be allowed to open so therfore they need to obey the rules. No one heads down to the local restaurnt and complains when they expect you to order food instead of pints only.

This. Exactly. Been said countless times already in various threads, the "substantial meal" is only an issue because the vfi and lvfi all whinged when restaurants were permitted to open "oh but we're really restaurants too, why can't we open?" So they were let. AS A FCUKIN RESTAURANT.

There are none so blind as those who will not see....

PTH2009 · 16-02-2021 10:43PM

Is the private bar in the Dail closed ?

fin12 · 16-02-2021 10:49PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is the private bar in the Dail closed ?

More than likely open.

hynesie08 · 16-02-2021 10:58PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is the private bar in the Dail closed ?

Is the canteen in cie closed?

Bigfatmichael · 16-02-2021 11:02PM

I just want a ****ing pint

Ha Long Bay · 16-02-2021 11:05PM

fin12 wrote: »

More than likely open.

"The Dáil members bar is not reopening despite being permitted to serve food and alcohol under Level 3 Covid-19 restrictions.

It was initially announced that the Leinster House bar was to reopen along with other pubs that serve food in December.

However, Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl intervened to prevent it from reopening over fears it would cause the “reputational damage” to the Houses of the Oireachtas."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/dail-members-bar-to-remain-closed-amid-fears-of-reopening-it-could-lead-to-reputational-damage-39861919.html

El_Duderino 09 · 16-02-2021 11:35PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is the private bar in the Dail closed ?

Definitely should be closed if everything else is closed. Work canteens are fair enough, but they definitely shouldn’t sell booze. For solidarity sake even if it’s permitted in law (for a work canteen with a licence) to sell alcohol.

fin12 · 17-02-2021 12:57AM

john4321 wrote: »

"The Dáil members bar is not reopening despite being permitted to serve food and alcohol under Level 3 Covid-19 restrictions.

It was initially announced that the Leinster House bar was to reopen along with other pubs that serve food in December.

However, Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl intervened to prevent it from reopening over fears it would cause the “reputational damage” to the Houses of the Oireachtas."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/dail-members-bar-to-remain-closed-amid-fears-of-reopening-it-could-lead-to-reputational-damage-39861919.html

Printed in a paper that is run by the government, yes I think I’ll choose not to believe what’s printed.

PommieBast · 17-02-2021 11:28AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Is the private bar in the Dail closed ?

Probably closed as the Dail is currently decamped to the convention centre rather than the usual parliament building.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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