Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

Millem · 14-02-2021 02:08PM

km79 wrote: »

Take leave if necessary for that short period of time seems to be the advice from unions

In reality it will probably not be approved as the needs of the school come first.
If it’s not approved you can apply for the PUP.
Which I doubt will go down well with the principal.

Locotastic · 14-02-2021 02:12PM

Millem wrote: »

In reality it will probably not be approved as the needs of the school come first.
If it’s not approved you can apply for the PUP.
Which I doubt will go down well with the principal.

"If you left work to care for a child because of school or childcare closures and your employer is no longer paying you, you can apply for PUP".

If the schools are open surely the above doesn't apply?

Ray Donovan · 14-02-2021 02:12PM

Millem wrote: »

In reality it will probably not be approved as the needs of the school come first.
If it’s not approved you can apply for the PUP.
Which I doubt will go down well with the principal.[/quote

If Putting the needs of one’s child ahead of the needs of one’s workplace got a questionable response from the person in charge (not the owner) of said workplace it would raise a lot of questions about the person in charge.

Millem · 14-02-2021 02:15PM

Locotastic wrote: »

"If you left work to care for a child because of school or childcare closures and your employer is no longer paying you, you can apply for PUP".

If the schools are open surely the above doesn't apply?

“Any employees affected by the lack of childcare are strongly encouraged to engage with their employer in the first instance with a view to exploring all options available to enable them to return to, or continue with, work where possible.

Some of the options to be considered for workers with caring responsibilities that preclude them from working their normal hours or patterns include allowing employees to work from home, altering shifts or allowing employees to rearrange holidays or parental leave.

Where a person in these circumstances is not able to avail of leave or benefit and as a result of the latest public health measures no longer have childcare, they are now eligible to apply for PUP.”

Millem · 14-02-2021 02:18PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Millem wrote: »

In reality it will probably not be approved as the needs of the school come first.
If it’s not approved you can apply for the PUP.
Which I doubt will go down well with the principal.[/quote

If Putting the needs of one’s child ahead of the needs of one’s workplace got a questionable response from the person in charge (not the owner) of said workplace it would raise a lot of questions about the person in charge.

The reality is schools are short staffed with no subs available in Dublin.

km79 · 14-02-2021 02:18PM

Millem wrote: »

In reality it will probably not be approved as the needs of the school come first.
If it’s not approved you can apply for the PUP.
Which I doubt will go down well with the principal.

I think most schools will do everything they can to approve the leave
Lack of subs could be an issue
Again I’ve said it many times and I’m not even joking . There are many many qualified ye areas doing nothing with the inspectorate. They should be made available immediately as subs to schools in their local areas . It should have happened in August

Millem · 14-02-2021 02:19PM

Locotastic wrote: »

"If you left work to care for a child because of school or childcare closures and your employer is no longer paying you, you can apply for PUP".

If the schools are open surely the above doesn't apply?

If you are a teacher who is going in teach before your own kids are back it does apply.

Locotastic · 14-02-2021 02:28PM

Millem wrote: »

If you are a teacher who is going in teach before your own kids are back it does apply.

Is it for teachers only though? Like, if I can't go to work reasonably due to childcare issues and my employer won't approve parental/annual leave or I've used all of my leave up, can I just apply for PUP?

I didn't realise this, is it a new thing?

wirelessdude01 · 14-02-2021 02:35PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Very important that a small Home Counties village is informed when Irish schools are reopening

Haha. Damn autocorrect.

Millem · 14-02-2021 02:47PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Is it for teachers only though? Like, if I can't go to work reasonably due to childcare issues and my employer won't approve parental/annual leave or I've used all of my leave up, can I just apply for PUP?

I didn't realise this, is it a new thing?

It’s for everyone.
It only came in in January I think.
You apply under “self declaration” apparently. Make sure you have it in writing re leave getting turned down.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 14-02-2021 02:54PM

km79 wrote: »

Again I’ve said it many times and I’m not even joking . There are many many qualified ye areas doing nothing with the inspectorate. They should be made available immediately as subs to schools in their local areas . It should have happened in August

That embarrassing moment when the returning inspectors struggle as subs

khalessi · 14-02-2021 02:58PM

km79 wrote: »

I think most schools will do everything they can to approve the leave
Lack of subs could be an issue
Again I’ve said it many times and I’m not even joking . There are many many qualified ye areas doing nothing with the inspectorate. They should be made available immediately as subs to schools in their local areas . It should have happened in August

So true Norma went on about providing 1000 teachers in Sept but the realitiy was it was about 1 n bit teacher per secondary school and subs in primary covering multiple schools. We have 3 subs covering 16 schools all with about 50 teachers minimum.

wirelessdude01 · 14-02-2021 02:59PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

That embarrassing moment when the returning inspectors struggle as subs

That moment when the returning inspector realises that although an 'expert' they've never actually taught the 1999 curriculum!!!

khalessi · 14-02-2021 03:00PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That moment when the returning inspector realises that although an 'expert' they've never actually taught the 1999 curriculum!!!

or the new updated "wonderful" English curriculum

wirelessdude01 · 14-02-2021 03:02PM

khalessi wrote: »

or the new updated "wonderful" English curriculum

The aul PLC is paper pushing.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 14-02-2021 03:05PM

khalessi wrote: »

or the new updated "wonderful" English curriculum

Learning intentions and success criteria to bate the band

TTLF · 14-02-2021 04:27PM

Wondering how the LC will work out now. The "mixed" choice seems nice, but also too good to be true... so I can just focus on the stuff im weak at and then get an average of H4's and above and get 500+ points? :rolleyes:

I hope they really let us know how this will work out, as for practical's being "apart" of the LC, what will I do for a practical that hasn't taken place yet, how would I get graded on that hahah.

Well, in due time whatever happens happens... I'm kind of ok going back, but I'm also not? I mean if it's mainly PG at this point, surely we can still be online for another 2 weeks or so... I mean I'm not overly comfortable with the numbers currently and I really don't want 80+ contacts. But also I want a normal-ish life again... what to do. :pac:

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 14-02-2021 05:32PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/leaving-cert-2021-no-deadline-for-a-decision-minister-says-1.4484496?mode=amp

Hope this isn't true. 6th yrs getting fairly annoyed at not knowing what theyre preparing for.

It's cruel at this stage

combat14 · 14-02-2021 05:36PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/leaving-cert-2021-no-deadline-for-a-decision-minister-says-1.4484496?mode=amp

Hope this isn't true. 6th yrs getting fairly annoyed at not knowing what theyre preparing for.

It's cruel at this stage

yes noticed indo has seemed to completely taken down their earlier leak post

Icyseanfitz · 14-02-2021 05:40PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/leaving-cert-2021-no-deadline-for-a-decision-minister-says-1.4484496?mode=amp

Hope this isn't true. 6th yrs getting fairly annoyed at not knowing what theyre preparing for.

It's cruel at this stage

So are 6th years back next week or not, the mixed messaging and lack of decision making is criminal

SusanC10 · 14-02-2021 05:40PM

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/no-fixed-date-for-return-of-schools-stephen-donnelly-says-1080960.html

Stephen Donnelly saying no return date for Schools yet.

combat14 · 14-02-2021 05:48PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/no-fixed-date-for-return-of-schools-stephen-donnelly-says-1080960.html

Stephen Donnelly saying no return date for Schools yet.

what are the indo playing at then... .....

Str8outtaWuhan · 14-02-2021 05:51PM

combat14 wrote: »

what are the indo playing at then... .....

Setting the narrative for union intransigence and the blame game. Can't see the ASTI accepting some Pauline conversion on PG/CG as the default.

wirelessdude01 · 14-02-2021 05:53PM

combat14 wrote: »

what are the indo playing at then... .....

Indo partaking in some kite flying for the government. See what they think they can get away with.

Icyseanfitz · 14-02-2021 05:55PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/no-fixed-date-for-return-of-schools-stephen-donnelly-says-1080960.html

Stephen Donnelly saying no return date for Schools yet.

Bloody idiots the lot of them. I'm going to treat this midterm as normal and expect to be back next week with zero new safety measures in place.

Locotastic · 14-02-2021 06:31PM

combat14 wrote: »

what are the indo playing at then... .....

Looks like someone spoke to them with information who shouldn't have or they're making it up. Either is possible.

The article is still up on indo, anywhere else seems to quote indo as the source.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/leaving-cert-will-go-ahead-and-schools-set-to-reopen-from-march-1-40088920.html

Millem · 14-02-2021 06:50PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Looks like someone spoke to them with information who shouldn't have or they're making it up. Either is possible.

The article is still up on indo, anywhere else seems to quote indo as the source.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/leaving-cert-will-go-ahead-and-schools-set-to-reopen-from-march-1-40088920.html

My husband bought the paper. It also states that practical exams and ors etc will take place over Easter!
Lol even though they haven’t recruited yet

Millem · 14-02-2021 06:53PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Bloody idiots the lot of them. I'm going to treat this midterm as normal and expect to be back next week with zero new safety measures in place.

I was briefly reading the info re back to school. I am back on the 22nd February. Apparently I am just to wear a mask....no gloves or plastic apron.
Students don’t need to wear masks but I think a few in my school will.

khalessi · 14-02-2021 06:58PM

Millem wrote: »

I was briefly reading the info re back to school. I am back on the 22nd February. Apparently I am just to wear a mask....no gloves or plastic apron.
Students don’t need to wear masks but I think a few in my school will.

Enhanced measures my foot

Warbeastrior · 14-02-2021 07:01PM

The media in this country are embarrassing.
How are they let to get away with the crap they spew.

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01