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Scotland vs Wales 6n 2021

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wales are doing well out of these cards.

    To be honest if the player wasn't lifted it would have been worse so it's not a mitigation.

    Still doesn't look as reckless and deliberate as O'Mahony's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Rugby has been sanitised to death.

    Unwatchable now.

    You volunteering to put your head in the way of a flying shoulder? I admire your courage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭PHG


    Another bull sh1t red card.


    Another bullsh1tt comment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭A-Train


    Had to be red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,874 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Wales are dog**** and will be 2-0


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Wales for the grand slam at this rate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Ishmael


    Could turn into a bonus point win for wales.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭fitz


    Good to see consistency, tbh. They have to stick with these decisions if they want to change player behaviour.

    Not sure the Scots are playing well enough to win with 14, even with how bad Wales are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Try..Wales to march on and smash the Scots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭almostover


    For me thats a poor decision. It was a yellow. Mitigation as Hogg crocodile rolled Wyn Jones into a more upright position. Fagerson had committed to the clear out before then. Had Hogg done nothing, Fagerson's clearout would have been fine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That's a red and it's the type of red you want to see awarded to be honest. It's a defenceless players getting hit in the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭rodge123


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Wales are dog**** and will be 2-0

    Took the words right outta my mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Another bull sh1t red card.

    I agree, the player was very stupid to perform an act that got him absolutely justifiably sent off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭eclipsechaser


    Another bull sh1t red card.

    Forceful shoulder to head. Clear red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,006 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Probably red, but the Welsh player did move just before contact, but actually his movement probably made it less severe.

    Not quite as clear cut as O'Mahony's though, but still red.

    Wales are jammy b@st@rds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,217 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    A-Train wrote: »
    Had to be red.

    TMO clearly thought it wasn’t a red though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Consistent at least, but did he actually hit the head? POM was square in the face?

    POM was far worse - definite red - today was yellow - Scotland robbed , ref really wanted to give it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,859 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    This isnt a deliberate hit to the head, it’s a clear out and the Welsh player is moving, and being moved by the other Scottish player clearing out.


    What’s wrong with a yellow card???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭tanko


    Wales for the grand slam at this rate

    You think they'd beat England and France?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    It's a red but if world rugby want to stamp this out they need to address the breakdown. Too many injuries and needless cards as a result of the current iteration of the laws. Maybe time to have a look at getting rid of the poacher.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    almostover wrote: »
    For me thats a poor decision. It was a yellow. Mitigation as Hogg crocodile rolled Wyn Jones into a more upright position. Fagerson had committed to the clear out before then. Had Hogg done nothing, Fagerson's clearout would have been fine

    If I heard right the TMO was considering mitigating factors but the ref seemed to just dismiss that idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Wales really have turned this around. Looking impressive now


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This isnt a deliberate hit to the head, it’s a clear out and the Welsh player is moving, and being moved by the other Scottish player clearing out.


    What’s wrong with a yellow card???

    He's was being moved out of the way of the tackle, not into it.

    It's a red, not as serious as O'Mahony's which looked much more deliberate but both reds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,619 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Wales are doing well out of these cards.

    To be honest if the player wasn't lifted it would have been worse so it's not a mitigation.

    Still doesn't look as reckless and deliberate as O'Mahony's.

    Not to go over old ground Venjur and POM’s definitely look mor reckless but I don’t see how you can think it deliberate. He was lining up Tipuric.

    I think we’ll see players sacrificing speed of ruck entry for more accuracy, especially from such a distance out.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wayne Pivac has a guardian angel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    thebaz wrote: »
    POM was far worse - definite red - today was yellow - Scotland robbed , ref really wanted to give it

    Absolute rubbish, that was a red all day long... there's no point in people saying they want a safe game for their kids to play and then excusing that rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    So how does the breakdown get fixed? Rolling in earlier game led to serious injury, arriving at pace is resulting in these hits (even if they're trying to stay low)? You can see why teams are relying on kicking ball / keeping it super tight so players don't get isolated.

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    almostover wrote: »
    For me thats a poor decision. It was a yellow. Mitigation as Hogg crocodile rolled Wyn Jones into a more upright position. Fagerson had committed to the clear out before then. Had Hogg done nothing, Fagerson's clearout would have been fine

    Will you come off it.

    Fagerson had his man in the crosshairs from about a mile out and gave it the full WWE. If Hogg hadn't rolled him up, who would XF have been clearing out then??

    Red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    The rules for the breakdown will need to be changed...if you are a defender get as low as possible and it's next to impossible to be cleared out...or just drop your height when you see an attacker looking to clear out...guaranteed pen and possible red card


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Absolute rubbish, that was a red all day long... there's no point in people saying they want a safe game for their kids to play and the excusing that rubbish

    Sorry rubbish , its (was) a physical game , stick to the chess


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