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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • #3032
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭alps


    stanflt wrote: »
    Just went to register a calf there and I couldn’t- the heifer is down as a bull on the register
    This has never happened before
    Lovely bit of explaining to do to the Dvo

    The animal is entitled to be non-binary...DVO going to have to treat this with great sensitivity..


  • #3033
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Interesting that she/he would probably have been tb tested a few times and it didn't show up on the vets handheld


  • #3034
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Interesting that she/he would probably have been tb tested a few times and it didn't show up on the vets handheld

    And she was ai d by a reputable company


  • #3035
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    stanflt wrote: »
    And she was ai d by a reputable company

    I normally go through my herd register about once a month and filter the bulls, I then have an idea what's there and what should have been taken off. I assumed you put scanning dates into your farm program or was she a female on that?


  • #3036
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭stanflt


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I normally go through my herd register about once a month and filter the bulls, I then have an idea what's there and what should have been taken off. I assumed you put scanning dates into your farm program or was she a female on that?

    Only record scanning dates if there different to ai dates- less imputing to do


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  • #3037
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    stanflt wrote: »
    Just went to register a calf there and I couldn’t- the heifer is down as a bull on the register
    This has never happened before
    Lovely bit of explaining to do to the Dvo

    They're well used to it at this stage.:D

    You dairy lads don't realize how easy you have it. Tagging suckler calves is so dangerous we don't get time to feel for balls, doing well to get 1 tag in and not be flattened by a cow.
    Last few years I've been packing the whole lot of them into a tight yard to catch and tag calves every 2 weeks. Out the field then with binoculars in the jeep to see who owns what.
    Every generation is getting wilder. Bloody awkward one to sort when a 'bull' calves, even worse when 'he' calves a second time and you still haven't the first calf registered, so don't hang about with the paperchase sex change operation.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #3038
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    blue5000 wrote: »
    They're well used to it at this stage.:D

    You dairy lads don't realize how easy you have it. Tagging suckler calves is so dangerous we don't get time to feel for balls, doing well to get 1 tag in and not be flattened by a cow.
    Last few years I've been packing the whole lot of them into a tight yard to catch and tag calves every 2 weeks. Out the field then with binoculars in the jeep to see who owns what.
    Every generation is getting wilder. Bloody awkward one to sort when a 'bull' calves, even worse when 'he' calves a second time and you still haven't the first calf registered, so don't hang about with the paperchase sex change operation.

    That should be in the rooter thread :D


  • #3039
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭straight


    My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.


  • #3040
    bamayang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.


  • #3041
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,531 ✭✭✭tanko


    bamayang wrote: »
    Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.

    Viability of small dairy farm??


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  • #3042
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    straight wrote: »
    My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.

    Schoolboy question: longer in tank means higher SCC?


  • #3043
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    straight wrote: »
    My first collection results came in. Scc @ 1112. Do I get a prize I wonder. It's usually around 100 all year. Was in the tank 4 days. I'll hardly get the SCC bonus this month.

    Mine was mad too


  • #3044
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,700 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Siamsa Sessions wrote: »
    Schoolboy question: longer in tank means higher SCC?

    Longer in tank would result higher tbc
    Tbc is usually to do with quality of milk and cleanliness of milking machine/ bulk tank

    Scc is high white blood cells in the cows- fighting infections

    Then you have thermoduric which is cleanliness of cows pretty much

    Thats my basic understanding of it all


  • #3045
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Mine was mad too

    I had a bananas one too on first collection ....along with 3.5% aw and a 4.01 lactose ...Arrabawn supplier ,will be calling lab to query it


  • #3046
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    bamayang wrote: »
    Where did the thread go with the young lad looking for advise about becoming a tractor mechanic and then milking cows? Can’t seem to see it anywhere, was interesting reading.


    Helping out Tanko, I think.

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  • #3047
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Longer in tank would result higher tbc
    Tbc is usually to do with quality of milk and cleanliness of milking machine/ bulk tank

    Scc is high white blood cells in the cows- fighting infections

    Then you have thermoduric which is cleanliness of cows pretty much

    Thats my basic understanding of it all

    K thought thermoduric was some bit of bacteria in the plant that the milk is passing over?


  • #3048
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭visatorro


    whelan2 wrote:
    K thought thermoduric was some bit of bacteria in the plant that the milk is passing over?

    Thermoduric was tiny particles of dirt ? Whether from cows or deposits in the plant was my understanding??


  • #3049
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Thermoduric are bacteria that may survive pasteurization, I think may normally be found in soil so either wet or very dry weather when cows may skin a paddock


  • #3050
    Gary kk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Gary kk


    visatorro wrote: »
    Thermoduric was tiny particles of dirt ? Whether from cows or deposits in the plant was my understanding??

    Heat resistant bacteria I think usually for me it would be from the vacuum over flow I would get issues with it.


  • #3051
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Gary kk wrote: »
    Heat resistant bacteria I think usually for me it would be from the vacuum over flow I would get issues with it.

    Same here can't wait to get new milking parlour done. Have to wish out the pipeline weekly here or I get problems


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  • #3052
    raindodger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭raindodger


    milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .


  • #3053
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    raindodger wrote: »
    milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

    What co-op are you with, if glanbia you'll have a 20 cent a litre fine on 19.8% of your entire February milk unless you get milk manager to rescind it


  • #3054
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,328 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    raindodger wrote: »
    milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

    Are you the first milk collected on the lorry? I get that too sn odd time, though not as high


  • #3055
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    raindodger wrote: »
    milk tests usually all over the shop at this tume of year got one for 19.8% water on 800 litres with in my opinion none added auto washer on machine ,three milkings looking at all the milky rinse going down the drain new driver but im wrong of course .

    How were your fat and protein percentages for this collection? With 20% water these should be on the floor!!


  • #3056
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Last two heifers that calved here have mastitis. Can't figure it as none of the second calvers have had it and they're housed together. Cubicles swept clean and limed twice a day. If it was environmental I would imagine that the second calvers would have it unless I did a top notch job of sealing them.


  • #3057
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Grueller wrote: »
    Last two heifers that calved here have mastitis. Can't figure it as none of the second calvers have had it and they're housed together. Cubicles swept clean and limed twice a day. If it was environmental I would imagine that the second calvers would have it unless I did a top notch job of sealing them.

    Did you seal the heifers as well?
    Are they springing hard and dropping milk?
    Such heifers can be very vulnerable.
    Hope you get to the root of it.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #3058
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Had my first case of milk fever this am- not bad for 110 calvings- lifted her out of the cubicles to a straw bedded shed this morning- gave her another 2 bottles in the vein this evening and she was up after milking
    Great satisfaction


  • #3059
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    Did you seal the heifers as well?
    Are they springing hard and dropping milk?
    Such heifers can be very vulnerable.
    Hope you get to the root of it.

    No I understood that heifers were naturally sealed. Ya they are springing hard and dropping milk as you say.


  • #3060
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    stanflt wrote: »
    Had my first case of milk fever this am- not bad for 110 calvings- lifted her out of the cubicles to a straw bedded shed this morning- gave her another 2 bottles in the vein this evening and she was up after milking
    Great satisfaction

    150 gramms mag flakes 5 days pre calving and any dodgy looking cow gets a calcium bolus at onset of calving .....I’m saying no more


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  • #3061
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,677 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    150 gramms mag flakes 5 days pre calving and any dodgy looking cow gets a calcium bolus at onset of calving .....I’m saying no more

    Sure that lads only a cowboy


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