Royal Rumble 2021 Spoilers

CastorTroy · 02-02-2021 2:59am

GSPfan wrote: »

In terms of the Royal Rumble match itself I wish to god they’d plan the match with a little more common sense. Having 50 false eliminations a match by having them hang on to the rope and the person who put them there just walking away is annoying. Having multiple people team up to throw someone out only for another person to disrupt that is just silly. Why would you stop any elimination unless it’s a tag partner or something. Why would you ever climb the ropes or even wait on the ring apron. It feels like there should be a 10 count for anyone outside the ring who hasn’t gone over the top. I’d also wonder if it would be a good idea to have the last two people be able to pin each other to add a bit of variety at the end.

I know they will never mess with the format too much but still it’d be nice to try.

Slight exaggeration ahead but you'll get my meaning. Not forgetting when they have 5 guys struggling to lift someone like Rey Mysterio who is managing to stop going over.

During the Goldberg match, I think Drew genuinely kicked him in the head when Goldberg ran at him in the corner. He seemed dazed after that. Seemed he was too low or ran too fast and didn't see the boot coming.

Looked like Bayley kicked Naomi in the head as well

Loughc · 02-02-2021 9:56am

Did anyone notice Jey USO was missing from the rumble.

Shame as he had a great few months prior the rumble could have been another building block for him.

paulie21 · 02-02-2021 11:01am

Loughc wrote: »

Did anyone notice Jey USO was missing from the rumble.

Shame as he had a great few months prior the rumble could have been another building block for him.

He announced he was entering. Hasn't been a part of the Reigns storyline either lately. Wonder did he pick up Covid as there hasn't been anything said

Loughc · 02-02-2021 11:02am

paulie21 wrote: »

He announced he was entering. Hasn't been a part of the Reigns storyline either lately. Wonder did he pick up Covid as there hasn't been anything said

Official line was he wasn't cleared by doctors to compete, don't know if that's injury or COVID though.

CastorTroy · 02-02-2021 1:50pm

He had to make room for Dominick.

JP Liz V1 · 02-02-2021 5:56pm

Billy Ocean wrote: »

she is married and step mother to 2 children so wasn't shocked.

What age is Montez?

Omackeral · 02-02-2021 7:07pm

JP Liz V1 · 02-02-2021 8:21pm

Can Bianca choose which title she wants to go after like Edge or automatically has to go for the SD title?

Loughc · 02-02-2021 8:49pm

Loughc · 02-02-2021 8:50pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Can Bianca choose which title she wants to go after like Edge or automatically has to go for the SD title?

She can choose which ever champion she wants.

riffmongous · 02-02-2021 8:55pm

GSPfan wrote: »

So what strategy would you go with if you were a wrestler entering the Royal Rumble. Imagine you are smarter than the average bear but you still have to act like wrestlers act in situations.

1. Delay getting in the ring at all. Go to commentary position. Go under the ring. Just occupy yourself as long as you can before getting in.

2. Once in there try to make some alliances. But don’t double cross anyone. Those guys normally get thrown out soon afterwards. Keep an alliance for as long as possible.

3. If you get thrown under the ropes to the outside then stay there as long as possible.

4. If you find yourself near the ropes then either go limp to drop to the ground or stick your arse out over the second rope as your body will follow through and save you.

5. Never ever climb a turnbuckle.

6. Never ever charge at someone on the ropes for a clothesline.

7. The best ‘over the top rope’ move seems to be the one hand grab of the back of the head that throws people over.

8. When a huge guy comes in then it’s best to play dead in a corner. Do not try to take him on alone.

9. When you throw someone out of the ring you never assume they are gone. Always check.

10. Never run to the ring so fast that you might trip on a mat and slide under the ring.

Stay backstage the whole time and just get your faction buddies to beat up everyone in the ring with chairs and eliminate them until no else is left :pac:

Cianan2 · 03-02-2021 12:48pm

Why do people talk about Edge as if he is a part timer? For all we know he's signed a full time contract but haven't seen his schedule due to the awful injury last year

Loughc · 03-02-2021 1:36pm

Cianan2 wrote: »

Why do people talk about Edge as if he is a part timer? For all we know he's signed a full time contract but haven't seen his schedule due to the awful injury last year

He confirmed himself when he re-signed it would be a lighter work schedule.

beakerjoe · 03-02-2021 2:06pm

Loughc wrote: »

He confirmed himself when he re-signed it would be a lighter work schedule.

He wrestled 3 times last year from Jan to May. Thats part time.

gerrybbadd · 03-02-2021 2:42pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

He wrestled 3 times last year from Jan to May. Thats part time.

He was injured a large part of that time.

He posted on Instagram yesterday that he will be at Raw each week. In fairness, probably not wrestling. I don't need to see Edge in matches each week.

beakerjoe · 03-02-2021 3:03pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

He was injured a large part of that time.

He posted on Instagram yesterday that he will be at Raw each week. In fairness, probably not wrestling. I don't need to see Edge in matches each week.

Did he not get injued in May?

LineOfBeauty · 03-02-2021 3:13pm

Can't stress enough. The issue isn't Edge winning. Edge winning is a byproduct of the issue.

Deeper Blue · 03-02-2021 3:50pm

Interesting stat from Meltzer:

"Dominik Mysterio and Otis were the only two people in this year's RR match that are under the age of 30. This was, in fact, the oldest Royal Rumble in history, in it’s thirty year history. The second oldest was last year."

RollieFingers · 03-02-2021 4:03pm

It's slightly ironic that WWE have had a state of the art facility to train young wrestlers for a good few years now and yet they just produced the oldest ever Royal Rumble in terms of age of participants, and had a 47 year old repeat winner who first won the Rumble in 2010.

TimesArrow · 03-02-2021 4:41pm

El Sueño wrote: »

Interesting stat from Meltzer:

"Dominik Mysterio and Otis were the only two people in this year's RR match that are under the age of 30. This was, in fact, the oldest Royal Rumble in history, in it’s thirty year history. The second oldest was last year."

Cant believe Otis is under 30

J. Marston · 03-02-2021 4:43pm

I don't see it as a big deal, wrestlers' prime years are in their 30s these days. Look across the landscape of wrestling and you'll see the vast majority of every company's stars are in that age bracket.

Reigns, Rollins, Styles, Braun, Bray, Drew, Lee, Balor, New Day, Orton, Bryan, Moxley, Cody, Jericho, Omega, Miro, Cassidy, Pac, Wardlow, Hager, Ibushi, Tanahashi, Okada. Most mid-30s, some in their 40s. One in their 50s.

Is there any genuine wrestling star in their 20s? Sasha?

LineOfBeauty · 03-02-2021 4:57pm

J. Marston wrote: »

I don't see it as a big deal, wrestlers' prime years are in their 30s these days. Look across the landscape of wrestling and you'll see the vast majority of every company's stars are in that age bracket.

Reigns, Rollins, Styles, Braun, Bray, Drew, Lee, Balor, New Day, Orton, Bryan, Moxley, Cody, Jericho, Omega, Miro, Cassidy, Pac, Wardlow, Hager, Ibushi, Tanahashi, Okada. Most mid-30s, some in their 40s. One in their 50s.

Is there any genuine wrestling star in their 20s? Sasha?

You should. Not that there's no mega drawing star under the age of 30 in the WWE but the question is whose even close? There's no young wrestlers on the undercard being primed for huge spots. So, like any wrestling company, you look to your production line, your wrestling school. And WWE's is barren, it's a wasteland of guys and girls who've been in this warehouse for years and who can't grasp anything beyond the basics. Like Jeet Rama who was recently on the Indian show against Styles, 40 years old in the performance centre for 6 years and he's still so mediocre. The problem isn't that you hit 30 and now you're considered old, it's that they have so few guys primed on the main roster to take over big spots and they have even fewer guys in developmental ready to step up.

Okada is a great example. Obvious talent, great size, pushed to the moon in his early 20's upon excursion, NJPW's premier star, the ace of the company and a draw (all going well with his health) for 20+ years for NJPW. Why did they do that? Because they had the right guy in Okada and because they had faith that in their system he was ready for such a huge spot.

And guys peak late too, the overwhelming wrestler of the year for 2020 is Go Shiozaki who is 38 years old, a wrestler's peak tends to be from around 34-39. But the issue is that where you've listed wrestlers from companies over 30, in those same companies you can do a list of wrestlers under 30 who are capable of stepping into a big spot at a moment's notice because they've been primed for it in how the wrestler has been trained and in the eyes of the fans of those companies.

Omackeral · 03-02-2021 5:29pm

RollieFingers wrote: »

It's slightly ironic that WWE have had a state of the art facility to train young wrestlers for a good few years now and yet they just produced the oldest ever Royal Rumble in terms of age of participants, and had a 47 year old repeat winner who first won the Rumble in 2010.

And 54 year old Goldberg vying for the main title despite absolutely nobody wanting it or the story not even making sense.

Ridley · 04-02-2021 1:59pm

I think we were supposed to be dreading a Goldberg win to be fair.

Had to laugh at even the hype video being ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on the reason for the match as well though.

Agent Coulson · 06-02-2021 6:12am

You don't need Goldberg to put over Drew who has been Champion for the guts of a year, You want Goldberg to put over Adam Cole or someone like that on their main roster debut.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 12:32pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You don't need Goldberg to put over Drew who has been Champion for the guts of a year, You want Goldberg to put over Adam Cole or someone like that on their main roster debut.

Ah, yeah, just take a couple of Canadian destroyers off him, and lose to the leg slap of death.

I like Adam Cole, but he's 5,8, 13 stone and looks about as threatening as a drunk squirrel. Even with the UE backing him up, nobody is believing that result......

beakerjoe · 06-02-2021 1:18pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

Ah, yeah, just take a couple of Canadian destroyers off him, and lose to the leg slap of death.

I like Adam Cole, but he's 5,8, 13 stone and looks about as threatening as a drunk squirrel. Even with the UE backing him up, nobody is believing that result......

What an awful take.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 1:31pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

What an awful take.

What, that I don't think goldberg should be wasted on Adam Cole?

Goldberg still has a place on the card, it should just never be near the title again,it also shouldn't be jobs to nxt lad on his first night.

And yeah, I think Cole is better off staying in nxt, he's going to look absolutely terrible when they call him up.

beakerjoe · 06-02-2021 2:00pm

hynesie08 wrote: »

What, that I don't think goldberg should be wasted on Adam Cole?

Goldberg still has a place on the card, it should just never be near the title again,it also shouldn't be jobs to nxt lad on his first night.

And yeah, I think Cole is better off staying in nxt, he's going to look absolutely terrible when they call him up.

So Goldberg, a man who is bolloxed from his walk to the ring, who was a star 23 years ago, who has wrestled roughly 6 times since 2004, who has had the same **** matches with Drew, Dolph and Owens in the last 4 years should have a place, yet Adam Cole, arguablely the most polished and all round talent in NXT in years has no place.

Yeah. Sorry, great take. Solid. 6 stars.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 2:43pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

So Goldberg, a man who is bolloxed from his walk to the ring, who was a star 23 years ago, who has wrestled roughly 6 times since 2004, who has had the same **** matches with Drew, Dolph and Owens in the last 4 years should have a place, yet Adam Cole, arguablely the most polished and all round talent in NXT in years has no place.

Yeah. Sorry, great take. Solid. 6 stars.

That goldberg match is the best thing ziggler has done since the ladder match with the miz.

Adam cole is good, I like him, but if you're looking forward to 40 minute kick out fests, then more power to you, but it's not for me (and judging by nxts ratings this week not for many others)

I gave up on the idea of Cole on the main roster when him and gargano bawled into the crowd and were dwarfed by the audience.

beakerjoe · 06-02-2021 3:11pm

If you think that Adam Cole is the reason why NXT isnt performing well in the ratings, you're mistaken.

And pointing to Goldberg and Ziggler as the best thing Ziggler has done , its a low bar. (By the way his feud with Otis was better... a low bar though)

But if you wanna see more of the mid 50s Goldberg, power to ya. Its all subjective and Im glad someone enjoyed his matches. Youre one of the very few.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 4:03pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

If you think that Adam Cole is the reason why NXT isnt performing well in the ratings, you're mistaken.

And pointing to Goldberg and Ziggler as the best thing Ziggler has done , its a low bar. (By the way his feud with Otis was better... a low bar though)

But if you wanna see more of the mid 50s Goldberg, power to ya. Its all subjective and Im glad someone enjoyed his matches. Youre one of the very few.

Agreed, still think ziggler doing the black Knight impression was fantastic.

I enjoyed something different, would I want every match like that? Not even remotely, but it has its place, and unfortunately lads like Keith lee and damien priest insist on doing cruiserweight stuff, it's why I'd love to see Walter on the main roster.

Adam cole is good, I cannot stress this enough, I've been watching his stuff since czw, but anybody who thinks that he should smash up goldberg in his debut is clearly playing too much ewr.

beakerjoe · 06-02-2021 4:12pm

No one said he should smash up Goldberg, they said a better use of Goldberg would be to put someone new like Cole over.

I personally believe Goldberg not wrestling is a better use if him. But if WWE insist on using Godlberg it should be to put someone over. Clean and definitively.

A small man vs Big man match is pure pro wrestling story telling. Told the right way, a prime big lad could easily battle a smaller lad as talented as Cole and make it work with the smaller lad going over.

Necro · 06-02-2021 6:21pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

A small man vs Big man match is pure pro wrestling story telling. Told the right way, a prime big lad could easily battle a smaller lad as talented as Cole and make it work with the smaller lad going over.

Yeah, agree - though Goldberg is not a prime big lad so I'd just prefer he went away like you said, or if he absolutely has to be there let him smash up the old guys like say, Cena - or Triple H, etc. Away from the top of the card anyways.

Given the... format of Big Bill's matches I can't see anyone pulling a classic performance out of him - never could really, it was never what he was about to be fair to him.

Now an interested Brock on the other hand - that could be much more exciting.

06-02-2021 6:43pm

I wouldn't even have Adam Cole in the ring against Rhea Ripley.

He's the size of an average Junior Cert student.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 7:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I wouldn't even have Adam Cole in the ring against Rhea Ripley.

He's the size of an average Junior Cert student.

What?
Sure he's 6 feet tall

https://m.imgur.com/r/wrasslin/JNhekll

Sirsok · 06-02-2021 8:27pm

TNA had it right with their legends title!

WWE have about 468 championships as it is, one more for the older boys wouldn't harm.

Have them show up for big shows 3-4 times a year and defend it. All the dream matches you could have and not sacrifice a younger star.

ThePott · 06-02-2021 8:35pm

That was the speculation around the 24/7 title at one stage that it was a Legends title.

Cherry_Cola · 06-02-2021 8:50pm

Haha Cole is pretty short alright, met him in Korakuen Hall as he was getting warmed up for his entrance and I towered over him. Half the Japanese fans thought I was a random wrestler too cos of my wild look so it was pretty funny.

hynesie08 · 06-02-2021 9:02pm

Sirsok wrote: »

TNA had it right with their legends title!

WWE have about 468 championships as it is, one more for the older boys wouldn't harm.

Have them show up for big shows 3-4 times a year and defend it. All the dream matches you could have and not sacrifice a younger star.

If the Saudi shows were a goer, it'd be perfect for them, half the audience don't care, the other half are so happy for live wrestling they'll cheer anything, perfect for the old lads.

Omackeral · 07-02-2021 12:14am

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

Half the Japanese fans thought I was a random wrestler too cos of my wild look so it was pretty funny.

Ever thought about lacing them up? What’s wild about your look, intrigued now!

Cherry_Cola · 07-02-2021 1:43am

Omackeral wrote: »

Ever thought about lacing them up? What’s wild about your look, intrigued now!

I have a crazy hairstyle and dress kinda punk all the time. I have considered it but very out of shape. There's a school or two here in Seattle now so might give it a crack once things are back to normal!

LibSuperstar · 08-02-2021 2:55am

Cherry_Cola wrote:

Haha Cole is pretty short alright, met him in Korakuen Hall as he was getting warmed up for his entrance and I towered over him. Half the Japanese fans thought I was a random wrestler too cos of my wild look so it was pretty funny.

How tall are you?

Cherry_Cola · 08-02-2021 8:12pm

LibSuperstar wrote: »

How tall are you?

6' 2 but have Wayne static style hair so technically can be anywhere up to 6' 7 depending how long I have it

riffmongous · 09-02-2021 5:23pm

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

6' 2

"Billed at 6' 6"

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Royal Rumble 2021 Spoilers