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    #4172
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,664 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    downcow wrote: »
    Haha.
    I was looking to see what average numbers were on these petitions and I came across this.
    Come on now own up Francie, Bonnie, Junkyard, who signed it
    Hahaha
    https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/18197

    'The British Isles'? - wheres that?


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    #4173
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    lurleen lumpkin wrote: »
    Your mental gymnastics are something else. I said it's not something to be proud of, and from that you infer I'm rattled and spooked?

    No I wasn’t meaning you were rattled. I was meaning the guy who felt the need to investigate the numbers to find 0.01% were from outside our nation and then try to make a story out of it


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    #4174
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    downcow wrote: »
    Lurleen.
    I normally think a lot of sam and I agree it was a distraction tactic by the DUP (I would have liked to have seen a united unionist one) but for sam to say it was a week when it was only launched yesterday.

    As for the international signings. It shows some people are rattled. I haven’t looked but the countries mentioned have probable 1 or 2 votes each. The international votes equate to likely ex pats when you examine them eg many countries have 1 vote only but Roi has about 80 as does Spain and Canada about 20 last time I looked.

    But it is pathetic for that tweet to raise countries that got I signing in a petition of over 100,000 hahaha talk about being spooked.

    Those would be the well known NI Loyalist expat communities of North Korea, Kazakhstan and Tuvalu?

    One of the commenters on that thread who seems to have a background in Big Data and Analytics claiming under 60% of the signatures are from NI. No idea what level of truth there is to those exact numbers, but it would appear a statistically significant number of those signatures relate to bots.

    Largely these petitions are pretty pointless though, as I'm sure you'll agree, so it makes little difference either way.

    For context the Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU petition is the most signed petition ever to Parliament with over 6 million signatures.....and look how that worked out.


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    #4175
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    maccored wrote: »
    'The British Isles'? - wheres that?

    I don’t know why you are asking the question, if someone said that to me then I would assume it was this island and the main island next door that they were referring to, and all the wee islands in and around


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    #4176
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Several million British people signed a petition to have a second vote on Brexit, remember that? Hundreds of thousands marched through London to protest Brexit.. nothing.


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    #4177
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,664 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    downcow wrote: »
    I don’t know why you are asking the question, if someone said that to me then I would assume it was this island and the main island next door that they were referring to, and all the wee islands in and around

    the 'british isles' apparently includes Ireland - which we know is a load of cobblers. I'll call it the 'Irish Isles' since we're making up names


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    #4178
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maccored wrote: »
    all thats shows is that unionism hasn't a clue what its at. Unionists may realise that they cant bully the rest of the UK the way they bullied nationalists

    Remember the days when Paisley could bring 100,000 on to the street. Oh how Unionism has declined.
    Pointless petition that has never changed anything. Sad for decent Unionism, dreadful leadership tbh.


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    #4179
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,664 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Remember the days when Paisley could bring 100,000 on to the street. Oh how Unionism has declined.
    Pointless petition that has never changed anything. Sad for decent Unionism, dreadful leadership tbh.

    he united people that man did - even if only for five minutes. I remember once throwing stones at him and beside was a gang of local loyalists doing the same thing


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    #4180
    lurleen lumpkin
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭lurleen lumpkin


    downcow wrote: »
    No I wasn’t meaning you were rattled. I was meaning the guy who felt the need to investigate the numbers to find 0.01% were from outside our nation and then try to make a story out of it

    The volume of outside signatures isn't the issue, it's the patterns, especially inside the UK, that suggest the use of bots.

    Trump supporting party gets their petition votes scrutinised, it's hardly unexpected.


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    #4181
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    Those would be the well known NI Loyalist expat communities of North Korea, Kazakhstan and Tuvalu?

    One of the commenters on that thread who seems to have a background in Big Data and Analytics claiming under 60% of the signatures are from NI. No idea what level of truth there is to those exact numbers, but it would appear a statistically significant number of those signatures relate to bots.
    t.

    You guys have cheered me up tonight. I thought the only Benidorm of the petition was to achieve 100k and thereby get a debate in Parliament. But you altitudes have showed me that it has also rattled some of you.

    Fion, unless you know different there is one signature from Tuvalu (that’s less than 0.001% of signatories) and did you just make up that there were North Korea signatories for impact? Surely you would be so rattled you would make up lies?


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    #4182
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,664 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    downcow wrote: »
    You guys have cheered me up tonight. I thought the only Benidorm of the petition was to achieve 100k and thereby get a debate in Parliament. But you altitudes have showed me that it has also rattled some of you.

    Fion, unless you know different there is one signature from Tuvalu (that’s less than 0.001% of signatories) and did you just make up that there were North Korea signatories for impact? Surely you would be so rattled you would make up lies?


    Rattled? I think you mean 'amused'.


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    #4183
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    Those would be the well known NI Loyalist expat communities of North Korea, Kazakhstan and Tuvalu?

    One of the commenters on that thread who seems to have a background in Big Data and Analytics claiming under 60% of the signatures are from NI. No idea what level of truth there is to those exact numbers, but it would appear a statistically significant number of those signatures relate to bots.

    Largely these petitions are pretty pointless though, as I'm sure you'll agree, so it makes little difference either way.

    For context the Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU petition is the most signed petition ever to Parliament with over 6 million signatures.....and look how that worked out.

    It is really sad and delusional to think the British are going to now ride to the rescue of Unionism.


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    #4184
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    downcow wrote: »
    You guys have cheered me up tonight. I thought the only Benidorm of the petition was to achieve 100k and thereby get a debate in Parliament. But you altitudes have showed me that it has also rattled some of you.

    Fion, unless you know different there is one signature from Tuvalu (that’s less than 0.001% of signatories) and did you just make up that there were North Korea signatories for impact? Surely you would be so rattled you would make up lies?

    I`m glad Francie mentioned it.I`ve signed it and forwarded it to all my mates.


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    #4185
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    downcow wrote: »
    You guys have cheered me up tonight. I thought the only Benidorm of the petition was to achieve 100k and thereby get a debate in Parliament. But you altitudes have showed me that it has also rattled some of you.

    Fion, unless you know different there is one signature from Tuvalu (that’s less than 0.001% of signatories) and did you just make up that there were North Korea signatories for impact? Surely you would be so rattled you would make up lies?

    The North Korean signatory (or signatories) was specifically referenced in the same tweet which stated there was a signature (or signatures) from Tuvalu, Downcow.

    Where did you read that it was specifically only one signature from Tuvalu out of curiosity. All I'm aware is that there have been a significant number of signatures from places one wouldn't expect a strong Ulster Loyalist community to exist.

    Rattled? Not even slightly. I'm confident that the petition will have about as significant an impact as any other one of these e-petitions, like the one I just referenced with 6 million signatures to remain in the EU. It is almost as if you're deflecting to hide your own insecurities.

    If things are so bad that this is enough to cheer you up, then I wouldn't want to take that away from you.


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    #4186
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    I`m glad Francie mentioned it.I`ve signed it and forwarded it to all my mates.

    Oh drat, I've ruined it all for us in the EU.:D:D


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    #4187
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    The North Korean signatory (or signatories) was specifically referenced in the same tweet which stated there was a signature (or signatures) from Tuvalu, Downcow.

    Where did you read that it was specifically only one signature from Tuvalu out of curiosity. All I'm aware is that there have been a significant number of signatures from places one wouldn't expect a strong Ulster Loyalist community to exist.

    Rattled? Not even slightly. I'm confident that the petition will have about as significant an impact as any other one of these e-petitions, like the one I just referenced with 6 million signatures to remain in the EU. It is almost as if you're deflecting to hide your own insecurities.

    If things are so bad that this is enough to cheer you up, then I wouldn't want to take that away from you.

    Tuvalu? That's the first exit off the Moira roundabout?


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    #4188
    lurleen lumpkin
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭lurleen lumpkin


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    I`m glad Francie mentioned it.I`ve signed it and forwarded it to all my mates.

    You weren't aware of it? It's pretty popular apparently.


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    #4189
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It is really sad and delusional to think the British are going to now ride to the rescue of Unionism.

    According to Fionn, it’s the North Koreans, so we might nuke the Eu lol


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    #4190
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Also, I know I said I wouldn't want to take away the little things that Downcow is relying on to cheer him up, but there's a slight bubble to bust.

    Have a look at the petition again.....these petitions when they reach 100k signatures do not guarantee they will be debated in Parliament.....they guarantee that they will be considered for debate....all of this crowing on the huge victory that is Parliament are now forced to think about maybe discussing it....


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    #4191
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    Also, I know I said I wouldn't want to take away the little things that Downcow is relying on to cheer him up, but there's a slight bubble to bust.

    Have a look at the petition again.....these petitions when they reach 100k signatures do not guarantee they will be debated in Parliament.....they guarantee that they will be considered for debate....all of this crowing on the huge victory that is Parliament are now forced to think about maybe discussing it....

    There's a queue a mile long too apparently. But IT HAS TO BE sorted this week!!! :)


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    #4192
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    Also, I know I said I wouldn't want to take away the little things that Downcow is relying on to cheer him up, but there's a slight bubble to bust.

    Have a look at the petition again.....these petitions when they reach 100k signatures do not guarantee they will be debated in Parliament.....they guarantee that they will be considered for debate....all of this crowing on the huge victory that is Parliament are now forced to think about maybe discussing it....

    I am very aware of that but the political pundits seem to be saying that it is a cert to be acted upon. I personally have no idea and I wouldn’t expect the debate to achieve anything other than keeping it highlighted.
    It is very clear that the last week has prepared the ground for significant movement and I think it will be to everyone’s benefit that some common sense will be applied and hopefully extended to Dover Calais crossings


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    #4193
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    There's a queue a mile long too apparently. But IT HAS TO BE sorted this week!!! :)

    I look forward to Parliament considering debating the matter several weeks or months after it has been resolved.

    Also, to further bust Downcow's bubble (I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't)

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/573209.json

    Three votes from Tuvalu, not one.....and as I said, one from North Korea on there too!

    The five from Vatican City particularly jumped out at me from this most serious of petitions....


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    #4194
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Tuvalu? That's the first exit off the Moira roundabout?

    You are confusing it with Supervalu - Lidl is on the next roundabout.


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    #4195
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    downcow wrote: »
    I am very aware of that but the political pundits seem to be saying that it is a cert to be acted upon. I personally have no idea and I wouldn’t expect the debate to achieve anything other than keeping it highlighted.
    It is very clear that the last week has prepared the ground for significant movement and I think it will be to everyone’s benefit that some common sense will be applied and hopefully extended to Dover Calais crossings

    Just under sixteen hundred signatures in the last hour according to Gov.UK website.


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    #4196
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    downcow wrote: »
    I am very aware of that but the political pundits seem to be saying that it is a cert to be acted upon. I personally have no idea and I wouldn’t expect the debate to achieve anything other than keeping it highlighted.
    It is very clear that the last week has prepared the ground for significant movement and I think it will be to everyone’s benefit that some common sense will be applied and hopefully extended to Dover Calais crossings

    What 'political pundits'?


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    #4197
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fionn1952 wrote: »
    I look forward to Parliament considering debating the matter several weeks or months after it has been resolved.

    Also, to further bust Downcow's bubble (I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't)

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/573209.json

    Three votes from Tuvalu, not one.....and as I said, one from North Korea on there too!

    The five from Vatican City particularly jumped out at me from this most serious of petitions....

    Ah noes, not the Pope!


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    #4198
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Tuvalu? That's the first exit off the Moira roundabout?

    You not thinking of Tullyallen? :0


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    #4199
    Fionn1952
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Ah noes, not the Pope!

    pallium_credit-rvin88-wikicommons.jpg?as=1&extension=webp

    I'm aware it's the wrong Pope, but I couldn't resist....


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    #4200
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Just under sixteen hundred signatures in the last hour according to Gov.UK website.

    The UK might run out of internet if this pace keeps up.

    Brexiters and belligerent Unionists will jump on any potential for affirmation won't they?


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    #4201
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,496 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    The UK might run out of internet if this pace keeps up.

    Brexiters and belligerent Unionists will jump on any potential for affirmation won't they?

    where dafuq are the Unionists...is there not 900,000 of them?

    3 people in fecking Tuvalu have signed this thing before 700,000 home grown Unionists have?

    Awful response.


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