COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

frozen3 · 04-02-2021 11:43PM

markodaly wrote: »

Quite a slow down from next week onwards, which is to be expected I guess as the HSE need to recalibrate their schedule now.

What was the goal for the end of March again?
700,000 people vaccinated?

That is looking highly unlikely at this stage.

UK are at 20% of adults vaccinated right now ( first dose ) and are adding to that at 1% a day.

While at the end of March we will have 17% of adults ( first dose )

Good grief

People are happy with that?

frozen3 · 04-02-2021 11:49PM

Hmmzis wrote: »

First time hearing of this.
From the little info available on it, it's a CD24 protein based inhalable drug. CD24 is expressed on lots of immune system cells (among others). Reading up in its functions gives a list the lenght of an arm. The most relevant seem to be inflammation regulation and T cell proliferation (CD4 in particular). Lymphopenia and high levels of inflammation are two major indicators of severe Covid. There are some other functions that could play a role as well, though they would be less against host factors but more along cell mediated viral defenses.

There could be some potential contraindications for certain cancer types and auto immune diseases.

Source: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2016.00146/full

Only caught my eye as it said Israel and they are taking Covid pharmacology more seriously than anyone right now

Hasn't been picked by main stream scientific world yet so I'm sceptical its true

Mark1916 · 04-02-2021 11:49PM

https://twitter.com/forexlive/status/1357459780911173644?s=21

I would imagine the EMA submission won’t be far behind

Cork2021 · 04-02-2021 11:53PM

Mark1916 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/forexlive/status/1357459780911173644?s=21

I would imagine the EMA submission won’t be far behind

Fantastic news!

Tyrone212 · 04-02-2021 11:55PM

Not sure if this has already been asked.

If 70 and overs aren't getting the Oxford vaccine.

When can we expect the under 70s to start getting vaccinated with the Oxford vaccine? Thanks

Cork2021 · 04-02-2021 11:56PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Not sure if this has already been asked.

If 70 and overs aren't getting the Oxford vaccine.

When can we expect the under 70s to start getting vaccinated with the Oxford vaccine? Thanks

Next Monday, other HCW first then they’ll move through to the vulnerable under 70’s

Stark · 04-02-2021 11:56PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

When can we expect the under 70s to start getting vaccinated with the Oxford vaccine? Thanks

Some time next week. (earliest possible date Feb 8th).

Van.Bosch · 05-02-2021 12:04AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Next Monday, other HCW first then they’ll move through to the vulnerable under 70’s

So moving on to group 4? Do we know what % of 1 & 2 are done?

Danzy · 05-02-2021 12:13AM

frozen3 wrote: »

UK are at 20% of adults vaccinated right now ( first dose ) and are adding to that at 1% a day.

While at the end of March we will have 17% of adults ( first dose )

Good grief

People are happy with that?

We are among the better performing in the EU.

It's been a desperate fuc up but no one will ever be held to account.

Water John · 05-02-2021 12:17AM

The US is at vaccinating 1.3m per day. Maybe the logistics of a big country are involved but they have given out about 53m vaccines and 32M are actually vaccinated.

Tyrone212 · 05-02-2021 12:18AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Next Monday, other HCW first then they’ll move through to the vulnerable under 70’s

Thanks. So 65 to 69 age group could happen before the months out.

landofthetree · 05-02-2021 12:18AM

Danzy wrote: »

We are among the better performing in the EU.

It's been a desperate fuc up but no one will ever be held to account.

We can vote out the EU commissioners.

Russman · 05-02-2021 12:20AM

frozen3 wrote: »

UK are at 20% of adults vaccinated right now ( first dose ) and are adding to that at 1% a day.

While at the end of March we will have 17% of adults ( first dose )

Good grief

People are happy with that?

Who gives a flying fu€k what the uk have done ? Seriously.
We’re thankfully part of the EU and it’s associated purchase agreements.

ACitizenErased · 05-02-2021 12:20AM

Water John wrote: »

The US is at vaccinating 1.3m per day. Maybe the logistics of a big country are involved but they have given out about 53m vaccines and 32M are actually vaccinated.

Heard today from an American professor of mine that it's a TicketMaster-esque lottery system. He had to log on for his parents this morning to join. 3000 vaccines available in their county today and he was 70,000th in the queue.

markodaly · 05-02-2021 12:43AM

frozen3 wrote: »

UK are at 20% of adults vaccinated right now ( first dose ) and are adding to that at 1% a day.

While at the end of March we will have 17% of adults ( first dose )

Good grief

People are happy with that?

It remains to be seen if we get to that target.
Again, counting chickens before they hatch.

markodaly · 05-02-2021 12:46AM

Does anyone have an up to date schedule of what quantity of vaccines are expected to arrive over the next few weeks?

Melanchthon · 05-02-2021 12:47AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Next Monday, other HCW first then they’ll move through to the vulnerable under 70’s

This raises a question doesn't it about the logic behind the decision though doesn't it?
Not recommending for over 65's due to limited trial data. I doubt there is a substantial amount of vulnerable under 70's in the trial?

If it's about the possible limited immune response in 65+ I thought the thinking was that it should be adequate just not proven in trials, but here we have a recommendation that's probably also to the stricter interpretation of the trial data.

Confused about the logic behind this or was there a substantial amount of vulnerable people in the trial?

Le Bruise · 05-02-2021 12:53AM

markodaly wrote: »

Does anyone have an up to date schedule of what quantity of vaccines are expected to arrive over the next few weeks?

Why, so you can criticise it?

markodaly · 05-02-2021 12:55AM

The decision about RNA for over 70's is more to do with confidence and public perception.
Ok, the science was poor in regards AZ due to lack of data, but when Germany came out with its statements, people elsewhere noticed.
I know myself my parents would have preferred the Pfizer vaccine over the AZ one.

This was about nipping that problem in the bud.

markodaly · 05-02-2021 12:55AM

Le Bruise wrote: »

Why, so you can criticise it?

:rolleyes:

D.Q · 05-02-2021 01:51AM

markodaly wrote: »

:rolleyes:

You're an exhaustingly negative poster. You seem to have a snide comment for everything.

It must be hard work.

astrofool · 05-02-2021 01:52AM

markodaly wrote: »

The decision about RNA for over 70's is more to do with confidence and public perception.
Ok, the science was poor in regards AZ due to lack of data, but when Germany came out with its statements, people elsewhere noticed.
I know myself my parents would have preferred the Pfizer vaccine over the AZ one.

This was about nipping that problem in the bud.

Your second line "the science was poor", contradicts the first "confidence and public perception"

This is a data driven decision for Europe, hopefully the UK data fills the gap.

If I were a 60-69 year old, , I would be doing whatever I can to boost my immune system to provoke a strong response to the vaccine (exercise, fruit+veg, vit-C & D).

markodaly · 05-02-2021 02:38AM

D.Q wrote: »

You're an exhaustingly negative poster. You seem to have a snide comment for everything.

It must be hard work.

Not at all, I'm just more matter of fact about things and some people don't like it.

The whole, 'Wheaaaay the lads, back in the pubs in May and jetting off to Lanza, here we come' type of thinking is all well and good, but its kinda infantile, given where we are.

markodaly · 05-02-2021 02:42AM

astrofool wrote: »

Your second line "the science was poor", contradicts the first "confidence and public perception"

I don't follow, how is it a contradiction?

It is clear that there were not enough older people in the Oxford/AZ trial, hence why the data available is poor, hence why the science on that is poor.
When more data becomes available, a clearer picture will emerge.

Confidence and public perception is shaken due to many other countries not advising AZ for their older populations, this all started with the Germans.

If the HSE came out and stated "its grand", you can be sure that some people will have made it quite clear that they wanted the Pfizer vaccine over the AZ one.

Micky 32 · 05-02-2021 02:53AM

markodaly wrote: »

Not at all, I'm just more matter of fact about things and some people don't like it.

The whole, 'Wheaaaay the lads, back in the pubs in May and jetting off to Lanza, here we come' type of thinking is all well and good, but its kinda infantile, given where we are.

Lol what a nonsecal post. Firstly none of your posts are a “matter of fact” you don’t know anything more about this virus than anyone else. You’re just a random internet poster nothing more with an opinion. You know what they say about opinions? They’re like buttholes. Everyone has one….

The reality here is that it’s you that doesn’t seem to like reading peoples positive posts about normality returning for whatever your agenda is so you come back with your arrogant condescending posts trying to wind people up. Maybe you get a buzz out of it, Quite pathetic but hilarious at the same time

:pac:

markodaly · 05-02-2021 03:17AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Lol what a nonsecal post. Firstly none of your posts are a “matter of fact” you don’t know anything more about this virus than anyone else. You’re just a random internet poster nothing more with an opinion. You know what they say about opinions? They’re like buttholes. Everyone has one….

The reality here is that it’s you that doesn’t seem to like reading peoples positive posts about normality returning for whatever your agenda is so you come back with your arrogant condescending posts trying to wind people up. Maybe you get a buzz out of it, Quite pathetic but hilarious at the same time :pac:

And amazingly you didn't offer anything of a rebuttal to anything I said.

Micky 32 · 05-02-2021 03:23AM

markodaly wrote: »

And amazingly you didn't offer anything of a rebuttal to anything I said.

Amazingly i felt absolute no need to because your posts are the same crap every night. You come on here every night berating people that express their hope of normality when any good news emerges of the vaccines instead of you actually posting anything useful or constructive. :rolleyes:

Sanjuro · 05-02-2021 09:28AM

markodaly wrote: »

Not at all, I'm just more matter of fact about things and some people don't like it.

Too much "keepin' it real" for the people here. :rolleyes:

Irish Stones · 05-02-2021 09:36AM

The cases of ADR's from Pfizer vaccine aren't evenly distributed across EU.
Some countries have several times more cases than others, apparently up to 5-10 times more likely to happen somewhere than somewhere else.
What reasons can there be behind this diffence? Could it depend on the diet, the lifestyle, the genetics, the protocols of injection, different batches of vaccine to different countries? Or could it be that some people culturally and generally like to complain for a slight reaction (and hence the slightest itch is counted in) while others prefer to keep certain rections for themsleves (and hence not counted in)?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 05-02-2021 09:37AM

Marhay70 wrote: »

You would think they would involve pharmacies from the outset rather than dentists. Most reasonably sized rural communities would have at least one pharmacy, more than would have doctors or dentists.

I would suspect that it might be about capacity.

A lot of pharmacists seem to squeeze flu injections in around other work.

I would suspect that given the amount of dental practices that are closed or emergency work only at the moment more would be able to give it their full time and attention. This would be important if they are distributing vaccines that have limited shelf lives.

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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