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Cold Spell - Feb 7th to 13th 2021 - Chat

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,460 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Anything said for saying a mass for scenes like this next week? :D

    God when ya look back on it now.. will we ever see the likes again? :(

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    That looks like what occurred in Maynooth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Great picture, huge snow. We even had great snow in Dublin 5 near the coast, the whole coast road was covered in thick snow from Clontarf to Sutton. Storm Emma really delivered for Dublin, Kildare though was phenomenal snow depths as were parts of Wicklow and Wexford and Waterford
    TTLF wrote: »
    It wasn't even West Dublin. I know the south of Dublin was absolutely pelted with snow. I can recall so well the events and I even have them recorded!
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJhfmPyyxM&ab_channel=Vxlks) as seen here...

    One of the biggest memories was MET EIREANN forecasting Orange Level warning for the GDA area on the night of the 27th. Roughly 7cm was forecast, but by about 4am I was counting about 10-12cm! and that was only day 1. :D

    Once Thursday afternoon hit, we were put under a constant streamer for hours on end and eventually that night Storm Emma started to just about reach us with Ice pellets. Come Friday it was fat flakes and blizzard conditions by evening... by middle part of Friday I couldn't walk far outside my house before the snow was so deep that I got too tired to walk in it (and I was only 15 at the time!) To think... I got about 50cm in my locality due to being in a valley, if it was January I would've experienced scenes like in NYC the past week where the door is blocked by snow since it wouldn't melt... :eek:

    Picture of my Garden there on March 3rd at about 9am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Donegal Ken


    Forecast snow for Midday Tuesday 9th Feb over 3 consecutive runs of the ECMWF model. Latest run on the left - earlier runs from Monday 3rd Feb on the right.

    For the latest update on the cold spell next week visit the Met Eireann Meteorologist commentary at https://www.met.ie/forecasts/meteorologists-commentary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    Great picture, huge snow. We even had great snow in Dublin 5 near the coast, the whole coast road was covered in thick snow from Clontarf to Sutton. Storm Emma really delivered for Dublin, Kildare though was phenomenal snow depths as were parts of Wicklow and Wexford and Waterford

    really unfortunate that in the end, March 3rd's snow was rapidly melting due to Emma's warm influence... Truly an experience I'll never forget. :D

    I just hope this time around streamer activity is good, my locality usually does very well in these streamer setups without much shadows bar the Anglesea. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    What day should I take the roads in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Burts Bee


    Looks like whatever way it unfolds us poor unfortunates in Limerick are outliers....waaa, did I move here from North Cork for even LESS snow??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What day should I take the roads in?

    If you want to be proactive I'd say Sunday night meself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,489 ✭✭✭highdef


    A couple of photos I took in my (northern) part of Kildare from 2018, just to get everyone even more excited!

    The first is when I was out for a walk the day before Emma hit. Visibility was near zero at times.
    542073.jpg

    The second was taken the day after the storm cleared. A stop sign can also be seen plus a man VERY slowly trying to make his way back to his house which was about 200m behind me. I'm standing in the middle of the road and you can see the line of the road between the hedges. What's of note is that those hedges are close to 2m high in places. As the road is orientated in a roughly north/south axis and the wind was mainly easterly, the snow collected between the hedgerows on either side of the road, right up to the tops of them so you could walk straight into the fields so I was in fact standing well above the road. This road was not cleared for several days as a driver had to abandon the car a few nights before and it became completely covered - for all I know I could have been standing directly above the car taking the photo.

    Also of interest is the areas of green to be seen in the fields. Again, this was due the strength of the wind combined with the snow being extremely fine and dry so local topography played a massive role with regards to how deep the snow was at any particular point, unlike when you get the more usual wetter snow, often combined with light winds resulting in fairly even coverage.

    542074.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Similar effect down here in East Cork :)

    6-E88-EA50-2-EB6-45-B7-84-FE-98907-F3-A1523.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,457 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Steopo


    Good explanation here on the sea effect snow (streamers) that hopefully we’ll be experiencing on east coast from roughly Mon-Wed. Written from UK perspective but same principles apply for Ireland expect sea fetch is shorter for Irish Sea so depending on wind direction the Isle of Man or Anglesey headland will mean a shorter sea fetch so few/no showers for some. Wind (speed, direction, shear..) will also affect the type of showers and how far inland they encroach so still a lot of unknowns. Looks to me like precipitation charts from models aren’t very good at showing streamers overland certainly in the medium range and small changes in wind can result in significant snow for some as streamers keep coming over the same area but very little for others just down the road

    https://www.netweather.tv/weather-forecasts/news/8748-sea-effect-snow---the-uk-version-of-lake-effect-snow-very-cold-air-across-the-north-sea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,460 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    highdef wrote: »
    A couple of photos I took in my (northern) part of Kildare from 2018, just to get everyone even more excited!

    The first is when I was out for a walk the day before Emma hit. Visibility was near zero at times.
    542073.jpg

    The second was taken the day after the storm cleared. A stop sign can also be seen plus a man VERY slowly trying to make his way back to his house which was about 200m behind me. I'm standing in the middle of the road and you can see the line of the road between the hedges. What's of note is that those hedges are close to 2m high in places. As the road is orientated in a roughly north/south axis and the wind was mainly easterly, the snow collected between the hedgerows on either side of the road, right up to the tops of them so you could walk straight into the fields so I was in fact standing well above the road. This road was not cleared for several days as a driver had to abandon the car a few nights before and it became completely covered - for all I know I could have been standing directly above the car taking the photo.

    Also of interest is the areas of green to be seen in the fields. Again, this was due the strength of the wind combined with the snow being extremely fine and dry so local topography played a massive role with regards to how deep the snow was at any particular point, unlike when you get the more usual wetter snow, often combined with light winds resulting in fairly even coverage.

    542074.jpg

    Newtown?


  • Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    EC 96 hrs...this will help enhance shower activity for Monday anyway

    ECM1-96.GIF?04-0

    Difference with GFS...

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    -10 uppers right on the east coast noon Monday and the whole Irish sea
    Air pressure low
    Showertastic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    Forgot my ski pants in my parents place and we are 45 mins drive so I've asked the rents to send over by An Post.

    Mum: I sent my wedding dress to Cork and it took 6 days...

    Doesn't leave me with much confidence in getting the pants before the big snow.

    :'(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Ursulal


    Loughrea Co.Galway 2nd March 2018


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,851 ✭✭✭Calibos


    arctictree wrote: »
    I remember Feb 2009, we were buried in the Wicklow hills with streamer snow. In fact there's probably a thread here on it if you go back far enough!! Only other event to top it since was 2018 aka the beast...

    Took these on the flight back from a Skiing Trip to Livignio in February '09. Roundwood may have got snowed in but Bray didn't see much from it as usual.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,851 ✭✭✭Calibos


    AuntySnow wrote: »
    -10 uppers right on the east coast noon Monday and the whole Irish sea
    Air pressure low
    Showertastic

    35F8BB51-FCE0-4008-88C0-16CE1099D8DA.png.2be2229aa535b9c1d6a534ab2eba1874.png

    BANK!!

    Course, you'll tell me those pressure lines don't indicate wind direction??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,851 ✭✭✭Calibos


    red_bairn wrote: »
    Forgot my ski pants in my parents place and we are 45 mins drive so I've asked the rents to send over by An Post.

    Mum: I sent my wedding dress to Cork and it took 6 days...

    Doesn't leave me with much confidence in getting the pants before the big snow.

    :'(

    Have mine in the Wardrobe. :D

    ...but I've put on about 40lb since I last wore them :mad: :o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,491 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    The duration of this spell is getting shorter as per each run. The latest talk on the technical thread has a swift return to mild muck by Wednesday. So if you are lucky enough to get some snow on Monday or Tuesday, you'll have 1 or 2 days maximum to enjoy it.

    This is very disappointing. What was promising to be a fairly potent cold period looks like a brief spell of cold weather with some snow for some in the east. I'm annoyed that I allowed myself to get excited.

    This cold spell has always looked like a 2 to 4 day event depending on what model you look at. Sunday to Tuesday is still looking good. There is alot of uncertainty from Tuesday night onwards. Nobody was guaranteeing this cold spell to last into Friday. The models are upgrading and downgrading on a daily basis and more changes still to come over the next few days in relation to what happens throughout next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,851 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Wednesday onwards is still too far out and the models are as likely to flip back as Wednesday onwards comes into the more reliable time frames. Whatever the models say about Wednesday onwards on Saturday or Sunday is likely what will happen be that good or bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Seymour20


    The duration of this spell is getting shorter as per each run. The latest talk on the technical thread has a swift return to mild muck by Wednesday. So if you are lucky enough to get some snow on Monday or Tuesday, you'll have 1 or 2 days maximum to enjoy it.

    This is very disappointing. What was promising to be a fairly potent cold period looks like a brief spell of cold weather with some snow for some in the east. I'm annoyed that I allowed myself to get excited.

    Pretty sure it always up in the air as to how long it would be and according to other posts on here the conditions were never favourable for a prolonged spell anyhow. Also worth noting that the charts are +144 now for the breakdown and this is out of the reliable timeframe. You said yourself you probably wouldn’t get any snow out of it in Donegal and would be happy with a few frosts which you’ll probably still get so don’t see the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Yes many times when we had air as cold as this coming from the east it tended to get more prolonged in each forecast after it had arrived...the cold could definately get upgraded and prolonged...if the weather we got in the past is anything to go by


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The duration of this spell is getting shorter as per each run. The latest talk on the technical thread has a swift return to mild muck by Wednesday. So if you are lucky enough to get some snow on Monday or Tuesday, you'll have 1 or 2 days maximum to enjoy it.

    This is very disappointing. What was promising to be a fairly potent cold period looks like a brief spell of cold weather with some snow for some in the east. I'm annoyed that I allowed myself to get excited.

    You're swift to write it off, when we're still several days away from the cold spell proper. I wouldn't be advertising your disappointment just yet, long way to go and there is plenty of scope for change. I live in west Munster which isn't exactly ground zero, however I haven't been this optimistic about a serious snowfall in years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Snowfall forecast from the latest ECMWF for between Sun eve and Wed after. This could be Gonzo's moment:

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    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    The duration of this spell is getting shorter as per each run. The latest talk on the technical thread has a swift return to mild muck by Wednesday. So if you are lucky enough to get some snow on Monday or Tuesday, you'll have 1 or 2 days maximum to enjoy it.

    This is very disappointing. What was promising to be a fairly potent cold period looks like a brief spell of cold weather with some snow for some in the east. I'm annoyed that I allowed myself to get excited.

    Read Liz Walshs excellent update, no way is that decided yet.

    Even daily snow falls will be now casting.
    Those charts predicting where heaviest snow falls are notoriously inaccurate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Are those showers on the north coast in reality out in the North Channel? I can't see how showers would come down from the north in an easterly wind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Are those showers on the north coast in reality out in the North Channel? I can't see how showers would come down from the north in an easterly wind?

    Keep in mind that these are running 24hr forecast totals. The odd flurry can't be ruled out from popping anywhere really I reckon.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Ecm snowfall accumulations are a downgrade on the previous run. Out to day 6 tiny to negligible amounts for most of the country.

    https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/ireland/snow-depth-in/20210210-1200z.html


  • Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Ecm snowfall accumulations are a downgrade on the previous run. Out to day 6 tiny to negligible amounts for most of the country.

    https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/ireland/snow-depth-in/20210210-1200z.html

    Tonights ECM version of Thursday is plausible plausible but as liikely only as last Thursday's for today


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    AuntySnow wrote: »
    Tonights ECM version of Thursday is plausible plausible but as liikely only as last Thursday's for today

    Yes but over Sunday,Monday ,Tuesday and Wednesday its expecting next to nothing to have accumulated. That's what the chart I supplied shows.


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