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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • #1682
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So it seems like the GOP leadership in the HoR wants Greene off of her committees rather than a vote on the floor to do so. Fine. Great. But they want Ilhan Omar off, too, since she said bad things about Israel. Not fine. Madness. False equivalence nonsense. All else fails, attack the attractive black woman is all this is.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-gop-lawmakers-seek-to-remove-omar-committee-assignments-amid-taylor-greene-uproar


  • #1683
    theguzman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭theguzman


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    I've not seen a single pro-Trump poster address this Saudi Arabia/Yemen issue, even when called out directly on it.

    What Trump did by supporting the Saudi's was absolutely disgusting and Joe Biden is spot-on to divest the USA out of that. I support Joe in this and I hope he can maintain a relative peace and neutrality and the last thing anyone wants Democrat or Republican in another overseas war unless you are John Bolton.


  • #1684
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    GOP to be freaking over Bernie chairing the Senate Budget Committee.

    https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/majority-leader-schumer-announces-senate-democratic-committee-memberships-for-the-117th-congress


  • #1685
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,510 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is it true,they rolled back on the 2000 dollar cheques to the poorest americans??

    Yes it's true, the Republicans blocked the $2,000 cheques unfortunately and only agreed to $600. Dems now trying to get $1,400 through to bring it back up to $2,000.


  • #1686
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,243 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Nancy laying the smackdown

    https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1357065678696636417?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • #1687
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Igotadose wrote: »
    So it seems like the GOP leadership in the HoR wants Greene off of her committees rather than a vote on the floor to do so. Fine. Great. But they want Ilhan Omar off, too, since she said bad things about Israel. Not fine. Madness. False equivalence nonsense. All else fails, attack the attractive black woman is all this is.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-gop-lawmakers-seek-to-remove-omar-committee-assignments-amid-taylor-greene-uproar

    Some democrats are to blame for the hatred against IIlan Omar as well. They went after her, after her mild criticism of Israel. They painted the target on her back, that the much worse republicans are now exploiting to after her.


  • #1688
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Bidens education nominee under heat from rand paul regarding transgenders competing in women's sports.

    https://youtu.be/ld7CX07Crh4

    Before anyone lists any scandals of rand or his father to try and completely dismiss what he says, would you not all agree with what he said at least?

    I found it interesting when he said
    In as many words..

    Where are all the feminists gone?

    No outroar from them.

    I don't see how anyone can defend or argue its okay letting biologically born males compete in female sports with a solid scientific based argument.
    I'd be willing to listen and have my mind changed if anyone feels up to it though?


  • #1689
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,133 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Bidens education nominee under heat from rand paul regarding transgenders competing in women's sports.

    https://youtu.be/ld7CX07Crh4

    Before anyone lists any scandals of rand or his father to try and completely dismiss what he says, would you not all agree with what he said at least?

    I found it interesting when he said
    In as many words..

    Where are all the feminists gone?

    No outroar from them.

    I don't see how anyone can defend or argue its okay letting biologically born males compete in female sports with a solid scientific based argument.
    I'd be willing to listen and have my mind changed if anyone feels up to it though?

    No. He tried to paint this as every single formerly 'female' event or race is now going to be won by a transgender. If he had spoken about the impact of testosterone on muscle development throughout puberty which can impact on physical size and strength and as a consequence that that would create an unlevel playing field, I would think he was at least a little bit genuinely concerned.
    But, as expected, he's concerned solely because it is deemed to be a liberal initiative.

    What do you think of the suitability of the nominee versus the person who was last appointed to the role via confirmation?


  • #1690
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Bidens education nominee under heat from rand paul regarding transgenders competing in women's sports.

    https://youtu.be/ld7CX07Crh4

    Before anyone lists any scandals of rand or his father to try and completely dismiss what he says, would you not all agree with what he said at least?

    I found it interesting when he said
    In as many words..

    Where are all the feminists gone?

    No outroar from them.

    I don't see how anyone can defend or argue its okay letting biologically born males compete in female sports with a solid scientific based argument.
    I'd be willing to listen and have my mind changed if anyone feels up to it though?

    There is actually a lot of outroar from feminists and others about that. You're trying to make out that this is a partisan opinion and that you've found a "look Biden is bad, gotcha!" moment. Unlike the GOP, democrats do not all agree with what a sitting president has ordered just because it was the president that ordered it and have the backbone to voice their own opinions on matters.

    I see that you have liked paw patrol's posts about Ron Paul so I assume you are also a fan of him. Would you like to defend his opinions or would you also prefer to put your fingers in your ears?


  • #1691
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I see that you have liked paw patrol's posts about Ron Paul so I assume you are also a fan of him. Would you like to defend his opinions or would you also prefer to put your fingers in your ears?

    It says a lot about a person when they won't say what they believe in because they don't want to, or can't, stand over it.


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  • #1692
    Quantum Baloney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Quantum Baloney


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I see that you have liked paw patrol's posts about Ron Paul so I assume you are also a fan of him. Would you like to defend his opinions or would you also prefer to put your fingers in your ears?

    Which opinions are you referring to? How many decades are we going back?


  • #1693
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,953 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    Which opinions are you referring to? How many decades are we going back?

    post #1689 has a good summary


  • #1694
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    As suspected no solid scientific based argument given just dragging Ron Paul into it and which I suspected as well as highlighting a post i liked.

    I was expecting more as ye do love to have your facts and sources ready to go on the offensive.


  • #1695
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    As suspected no solid scientific based argument given just dragging Ron Paul into it and which I suspected as well as highlighting a post i liked.

    I was expecting more as ye do love to have your facts and sources ready to go on the offensive.

    I am against the order, as are many democrats. There are some republicans who approve the order. What is it that you want us to say to you? You're very clearly just trawling the web looking for anything that you think makes Biden look weak and just posting it without any purpose.


  • #1696
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I am against the order, as are many democrats. There are some republicans who approve the order. What is it that you want us to say to you? You're very clearly just trawling the web looking for anything that you think makes Biden look weak and just posting it without any purpose.

    We finally agree on something so 🙂


  • #1697
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    We finally agree on something so 🙂

    So you're not answering any of my questions then?


  • #1698
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you're not answering any of my questions then?

    Excellent questions but I'll have to circle back to you on them.

    For today I'm just glad we have found common ground and both disagree on Bidens transgenders in female sports order.

    Some of that unity Biden was looking for in action.


  • #1699
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Excellent questions but I'll have to circle back to you on them.

    For today I'm just glad we have found common ground and both disagree on Bidens transgenders in female sports order.

    Some of that unity Biden was looking for in action.

    Dude it's very clear you have no intention of answering anyone's questions and do not wish to have any form of a discussion on a discussion forum. My recommendation for you is is to stick with Facebook where you can keep posting your random news articles without any personal input.


  • #1700
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dude it's very clear you have no intention of answering anyone's questions and do not wish to have any form of a discussion on a discussion forum. My recommendation for you is is to stick with Facebook where you can keep posting your random news articles without any personal input.

    Dude what questions are you on about?
    Why I support Ron Paul?

    Could you quote where I said I was in support of Ron Paul in anyway?

    Or are you assuming I'm a Ron Paul fan because I am a Donald trump fan?


  • #1701
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Dude what questions are you on about?
    Why I support Ron Paul?

    Could you quote where I said I was in support of Ron Paul in anyway?

    Or are you assuming I'm a Ron Paul fan because I am a Donald trump fan?

    No, I am asking you if you are a Ron Paul fan. Are you?


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  • #1702
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,133 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Dude what questions are you on about?
    Why I support Ron Paul?

    Could you quote where I said I was in support of Ron Paul in anyway?

    Or are you assuming I'm a Ron Paul fan because I am a Donald trump fan?

    Quoted for posterity.


  • #1703
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Excellent questions but I'll have to circle back to you on them.

    For today I'm just glad we have found common ground and both disagree on Bidens transgenders in female sports order.

    Some of that unity Biden was looking for in action.

    Also, just to take you up on this quote that you keep referencing.

    Yes, we now actually have daily press conferences again rather than Twitter rants from a president hiding in his bunker. And yes, when Psaki doesn’t know something, she doesn’t ramble or lie like Kayleigh, she instead says that she will find out the answer later. If you actually watched the press briefings in full, you will see that she actually answers the overwhelming majority of questions and answers them directly and truthfully.

    And most importantly, if you had actually watched any recent briefings (and you evidently haven't) you would see that she did actually circle back and answer those previous questions. She was not saying that just to avoid answering the question, she was saying it to ensure that she gave an accurate, truthful response. She didn't know the answer at the time because some questions were complicated or about specific figures so she went back and answered them next time.

    The fact that you think that this is not what a press secretary should do is bizarre. How do you think she should answer such questions? Lie and ramble like Kayleigh? Or do you think a press secretary should have the figures ready for every possible question that could be asked?


  • #1704
    Quantum Baloney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Quantum Baloney


    Interesting post and I will read through all of it. On a superficial level, it seems to me that alongside the more troubling claims, there are a large number of of ideas which although we might not share them, are in essence a question of philosophy rather than a question of undeniable truth with which to beat him. This would not be so important except for the fact that he self-identifies as a libertarian, and must admit that his personal sentiments regarding the social organisation of a libertarian society would be 100% monopolized by its structural ethos.

    Regarding the worst of it: if he ever did court racist elements, which would be a deep shame if true, then it creates an interesting conundrum.

    Firstly, we should admit that is hard to reconcile it with the image of the man as he presents himself today, and I would assume that many of his enemies would go as far to agree this much also. But at the same time, one can easily imagine that some of the elements converging around libertarian interest groups at that point in history were supportive of those tendencies. Is racism fundamentally tied at the hip to the concept of American Libertarianism as a whole? Or is it possible that Ron Paul was actually unique among libertarians at that time in not ascribing a whole lot of value to that question, but who nevertheless rubbed shoulders with a collection of people that did.


  • #1705
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There is actually a lot of outroar from feminists and others about that. You're trying to make out that this is a partisan opinion and that you've found a "look Biden is bad, gotcha!" moment. Unlike the GOP, democrats do not all agree with what a sitting president has ordered just because it was the president that ordered it and have the backbone to voice their own opinions on matters.

    I see that you have liked paw patrol's posts about Ron Paul so I assume you are also a fan of him. Would you like to defend his opinions or would you also prefer to put your fingers in your ears?

    Lets hope they do that on this issue.


  • #1706
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No, I am asking you if you are a Ron Paul fan. Are you?

    No are you?


  • #1707
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,319 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Excellent questions but I'll have to circle back to you on them.

    You should probably stop saying this, it's just making you look silly. Psaki actually answers the questions she's asked, you don't.


  • #1708
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    extra gravy wrote: »
    You should probably stop saying this, it's just making you look silly. Psaki actually answers the questions she's asked, you don't.

    I answered his question he assumed I am a Ron Paul fan.

    I answered saying I am not a Ron Paul fan.

    If you have any questions you would like to ask me then go ahead sir.


  • #1709
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    No are you?

    No. Why have you liked this post then? Is it because you are just a sheep that likes any posts that attacks democrats even if you don't agree with them personally?
    12gauge dave wrote: »
    I answered his question he assumed I am a Ron Paul fan.

    I answered saying I am not a Ron Paul fan.

    If you have any questions you would like to ask me then go ahead sir.

    He is saying that you should stop making this "circle back" statement as it's embarrassing for you based on what I said. Would you like to respond to my post about Psaki or shall you also ignore it like you have many of my other posts?


  • #1710
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    Interesting post and I will read through all of it. On a superficial level, it seems to me that alongside the more troubling claims, there are a large number of of ideas which although we might not share them, are in essence a question of philosophy rather than a question of undeniable truth with which to beat him. This would not be so important except for the fact that he self-identifies as a libertarian, and must admit that his personal sentiments regarding the social organisation of a libertarian society would be 100% monopolized by its structural ethos.

    Regarding the worst of it: if he ever did court racist elements, which would be a deep shame if true, then it creates an interesting conundrum.

    Firstly, we should admit that is hard to reconcile it with the image of the man as he presents himself today, and I would assume that many of his enemies would go as far to agree this much also. But at the same time, one can easily imagine that some of the elements converging around libertarian interest groups at that point in history were supportive of those tendencies. Is racism fundamentally tied at the hip to the concept of American Libertarianism as a whole? Or is it possible that Ron Paul was actually unique among libertarians at that time in not ascribing a whole lot of value to that question, but who nevertheless rubbed shoulders with a collection of people that did.

    It seems that you are focusing on my first point, namely that he is a massive racist, and that that may be because libertarians as a whole had racial tendencies in the past but Ron Paul may no longer have such beliefs is that right?

    In 2018, he retweeted an incredibly racist cartoon.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/149536/ron-paul-tweets-openly-racist-cartoon

    In 2011, he had several meetings with white supremacists and endorsed one for a seat on the Los Angeles Superior Court.
    https://newsone.com/1845355/emails-show-meetings-between-ron-paul-and-white-supremacists/

    In 2008, he kept a campaign donation from a known white supremacist.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna22331091


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  • #1711
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No. Why have you liked this post then? Is it because you are just a sheep that likes any posts that attacks democrats even if you don't agree with them personally?



    He is saying that you should stop making this "circle back" statement as it's embarrassing for you based on what I said. Would you like to respond to my post about Psaki or shall you also ignore it like you have many of my other posts?

    So you assume someone is a fan of someone from liking a post?

    You know what they say about the word ASSUME
    It makes an ASS out of U and Me.


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