COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 09:53PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Dare I say it...

Is it burning itself out??

I have been noticing the trend on worldometer but i didn’t post on here about it because the doom merchants would have had a hit put out on me. There is a significant drop in the virus worldwide.

Cork2021 · 03-02-2021 09:54PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I have been noticing the trend on worldometer but i didn’t post on here about it because the doom merchants would have had a hit put out on me. There is a significant drop in the virus worldwide.

I’m ignoring them and just interested in good news and a possibility of a snow storm next week.

frozen3 · 03-02-2021 09:55PM

polesheep wrote: »

Save your stamp, they're smart enough to know about Christmas.

Its more likely than any of your reasons tbh

Burning itself out is nonsensical

rsw16 · 03-02-2021 09:57PM

What's different about the J&J vaccine that led to them running a single and double dose trial, and other manufacturers to not? Both Pfizer and Aztrazenca seem to have shown efficacy after 10 and 22 day mark thats similar or better to the results presented by J&J.

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 09:58PM

frozen3 wrote: »

Its more likely than any of your reasons tbh

Burning itself out is nonsensical

Relax , no one is saying it is. Don’t worry your virus will be around for another while.

P.s the spanish virus burnt itself out. It can happen though.

frozen3 · 03-02-2021 10:00PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Relax , no one is saying it is. Don’t worry your virus will be around for another while.

P.s the spanish virus burnt itself out. It can happen though.

What are you saying then?

polesheep · 03-02-2021 10:02PM

frozen3 wrote: »

Its more likely than any of your reasons tbh

Burning itself out is nonsensical

I was clear that burning out meant stopping for a reason/s not immediately obvious. And many western countries were locked down over Christmas.

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 10:03PM

frozen3 wrote: »

What are you saying then?

I’m not saying anything. I just mentioned i noticed the trend and it had me wondering what could be happening. I don’t think it’s weakening ( yet) but it’s possible it could like other viruses did in the past.

Either way whatever the reason it’s great to see a reduction worlwide.

03-02-2021 10:10PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I have been noticing the trend on worldometer but i didn’t post on here about it because the doom merchants would have had a hit put out on me. There is a significant drop in the virus worldwide.

It's probably partially attributable to many countries with good testing and reporting capabilities being under lockdown. India is intriguing though, they look to have had one long wave that is winding down gradually. Their test positivity rate is very low too, so not a lack of testing.

Icantthinkof1 · 03-02-2021 10:12PM

What about adults under the age of 70 with high risk medical conditions
Will the AZ vaccine be suitable for them?

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 10:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's probably partially attributable to many countries with good testing and reporting capabilities being under lockdown. India is intriguing though, they look to have had one long wave that is winding down gradually. Their test positivity rate is very low too, so not a lack of testing.

I lost track of the USA, 44% drop. Did they go into lockdown?

Seems to be a bit of herd immunity with India.

03-02-2021 10:24PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I lost track of the USA, 44% drop. Did they go into lockdown?

Seems to be a bit of herd immunity with India.

Still wide variations across the USA in terms of restrictions, but most stuff seems to be open to some extent. Possible the thanksgivings surge knocked a bit of sense into a lot of people. Bad weather has probably helped keep people at home in a lot of states recently too.

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 10:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Still wide variations across the USA in terms of restrictions, but most stuff seems to be open to some extent. Possible the thanksgivings surge knocked a bit of sense into a lot of people. Bad weather has probably helped keep people at home in a lot of states recently too.

It certainly is a different world in the USA. It was an uncles birthday over there last week and all my other uncles and aunts all met up for a meal in a restaurant! Age ranges from 75-89. I think some have had their jabs too.

Cork2021 · 03-02-2021 10:35PM

Varadkar is a doctor and talks
Some sense sometimes,
was speaking at the FG PP meeting earlier. I hope he’s right and we do have herd immunity by September all going well.

https://m.independent.ie/news/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-criticises-eu-over-vaccine-delays-and-praises-russian-sputnik-v-jab-40049131.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=seeding&fbclid=IwAR3LnzBlqRDh5hNLchk09bAD3qMQpb53bYTxj1j50mPNACjf_l_levNcr68

frozen3 · 03-02-2021 10:54PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Seems to be a bit of herd immunity with India.

Tough crowd in India?

113 deaths per million and have reached a bit of herd immunity

The Belgians are at 1865 deaths per million, 16 times higher death rate per capita and no where near herd immunity

That high carb Indian diet and Vit D?

GazzaL · 03-02-2021 10:59PM

No vaccination figures released today, just cases and deaths. Great job.

ACitizenErased · 03-02-2021 11:01PM

GazzaL wrote: »

No vaccination figures released today, just cases and deaths. Great job.

vaccination figures are announced on thursdays and you know that

elperello · 03-02-2021 11:04PM

I was on the phone to a man in the UK today he got his first jab this morning.

Age 50.

Underlying condition Asthma.

He holds down a full time job, outdoor, fairly active.

GazzaL · 03-02-2021 11:09PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

vaccination figures are announced on thursdays and you know that

Why aren't vaccination numbers treated with the same importance as case numbers?

ACitizenErased · 03-02-2021 11:12PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Why aren't vaccination numbers treated with the same importance as case numbers?

why dont you send the HSE an email and ask?

Micky 32 · 03-02-2021 11:16PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Why aren't vaccination numbers treated with the same importance as case numbers?

Because they want you to ‘stay the course’ and ‘hold firm’ :pac:

Deeper Blue · 03-02-2021 11:18PM

frozen3 wrote: »

Was never in doubt tbf

Its Brazil and South African variants that have the vaccine evading mutations

But wasn't the UK variant found to have the same "worrying" mutation in some cases yesterday?

With the amount of cases in Israel there must have been a few UK variant cases in there that had that mutation.

Van.Bosch · 03-02-2021 11:21PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

why dont you send the HSE an email and ask?

In fairness Stephen Donnelly said they would be daily from 25th Jan and in the app from 1st Feb.

Personally I have no concerns about HSE anymore re vaccines. I had fears initially but they have dished out that they have so far.

Will be interesting to see tweaked plan as AZ will need to go to lower groups.

Dickie10 · 03-02-2021 11:24PM

what happens if we stop testing people as we get the vulnerable vaccinated?

Water John · 03-02-2021 11:29PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

what happens if we stop testing people as we get the vulnerable vaccinated?

Why are you linking those two things? If you haven't been vaccinated you need access to testing and follow up on near contacts. That is how it can be hunted down.

josip · 03-02-2021 11:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's probably partially attributable to many countries with good testing and reporting capabilities being under lockdown. India is intriguing though, they look to have had one long wave that is winding down gradually. Their test positivity rate is very low too, so not a lack of testing.

India has a very young population (median age 28.7), minimal access to health care for the majority and millions living on top of each other in most of the country.
I think it ripped through their population, even if they didn't 'let it'.
I'd be interested in knowing what %age of pop have antibodies.

suicide_circus · 03-02-2021 11:41PM

Anyway congrats to the UK on vaccinating 10 million people, including 90% of those aged over 75.

Dickie10 · 03-02-2021 11:46PM

just thought if the didnt test people as much once more and more are vaxxed into march and april, surely case numbers would plummett.

Deathofcool · 04-02-2021 12:14AM

Dr John Campbell looking at the data in the Lancet behind the Oxford Aztrazeneca vaccine. Seems to really promote the 12 week gap between doses for maximum efficacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1CLButseKM&ab_channel=Dr.JohnCampbell

wes · 04-02-2021 12:21AM

josip wrote: »

India has a very young population (median age 28.7), minimal access to health care for the majority and millions living on top of each other in most of the country.
I think it ripped through their population, even if they didn't 'let it'.
I'd be interested in knowing what %age of pop have antibodies.

I wouldn't trust data from India, due in part to complications due to the size of its populace and the current government being a bunch of corrupts religious extremists who can't really be trusted to provide correct information, and that is assuming they even have it.

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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