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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • #1532
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    newhouse87 wrote: »
    Yes you had missed that, just like you missed the point about people wanting more right leaning news outlet
    No, right wing. Your words, which I have repeatedly quoted. Please try being a little less intentionally dishonest, though I won't hold my breath.
    as they feel most news is left lenaing that is why Carlson Hannity etc don't exist yet.,
    No, it is because opinion-as-news fests are not a part of the British or Irish TV news market, be it on the left or the right. Which has been repeatedly pointed out, and which you have been unable to argue against.
    some people say conservative others say right wing, its far right is the problem not right wing, you were wrong i misrepresented no poster and now you are being pedantic with about use of conservative or right wing
    Except you said right wing initially, then you pretended the person was responding to a comment stating conservatism. If you were being honest, you would have taken issue with them saying being right wing was insane, but that wouldn't have tied in well with your efforts to switch the goalposts to 'right leaning' now would it?
    glad you admitted your mistake, in future read back before accusing posters of misrepresenting, time to clock out here at work, good day sir.
    Admitted I had figured you were referring to a different poster. Yet still correct that you were intentionally misrepresenting another poster, such has been the consistency of your doing similar in this thread.

    Still waiting for you to get back on your litany of misrepresentations, inaccuracies, and dishonest posts through this thread, but it's beginning to look like that was the intent on your end so I won't be holding my breath.


  • #1533
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    If a law abiding citizen wants to watch a right wing news channel I don't see the problem?

    Its the horse racing channels you need to stay away from.


  • #1534
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    So, back on topic. Joseph R. Biden Junior is still the President of The United States of America.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1535
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,843 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    newhouse87 wrote:
    Somebody stated it was worrying the a news outlet was going to be right leaning, that is a childish view to have, do people only want to hear opinions that they agree with? Different viewpoints is essential in society im sure you would agree.
    I don't want to hear different viewpoints, just the facts. I'll make up my own.mind based on that and by having conversations with others.
    Agenda driven media is crap whether it's supporting the left, right or centre.


  • #1536
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    This really should be in a thread of its own but I do have to chime in on this and say, it's not just how news is delivered that forms an agenda it's what, or more importantly, what is not getting reported that can form an agenda. To say that Irish media used to be impartial is a bit bull. The church had as much power there as it did in other aspects of society, else Magdeline laundries and the Mother and baby home scandals would have been out much sooner

    This too shall pass.



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  • #1537
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    So you do accept it will be an echo chamber.

    What is the left wing echo chamber channel on British TV? There is none, which is why this sets dangerous precedent when it comes to how their society communicate tes and interacts, which has already been deteriorating for a few years now... thanks in no small part to echo chambers.

    Have you not heard of channel 4?


  • #1538
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.


  • #1539
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    A President makes decisions, wow!


  • #1540
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,239 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    *sigh*

    No ability to contextualise.

    Common trait amongst trump supporters.

    Oh, and when your guy tries to incites a crowd to stop a free and fair election, I'd keep the word dictatorial out of your mouth.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #1541
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Water John wrote: »
    A President makes decisions, wow!

    Yes a president. Not a king.


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  • #1542
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,239 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Yes a president. Not a king.

    You mean like someone who is above the law?

    Who can't be indicted?

    Who cannot be impeached?

    Who does that sound like?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #1543
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,133 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.
    Trump Derangement Syndrome in full flow.
    Trumpets in 2020: 'He has done nothing in 47 years'
    Trumpets in 2021: 'He has done too much in a week'

    Question for you. If you got a new job, and the last guy had been doing things terribly, would you keep doing things terribly, or try to fix things?

    (P.S. Your guy also lamented the fact that he would only be able to serve 2 terms. How's that for dictatorial? I does make it sweeter that the only thing he got 2 of was impeachments.)


  • #1544
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    everlast75 wrote: »
    You mean like someone who is above the law?

    Who can't be indicted?

    Who cannot be impeached?

    Who does that sound like?

    I believe the mod note specifies that this thread is about Biden. There is another thread for Trump. Moreover spending years complaining about Trunp then when Biden does something not seen before rather than addressing the point the default answer is yeah but Trump.

    No thanks. I'm not playing the whataboutery spin the wheel game with you. Pass


  • #1545
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    I thought you guys were into that kind of thing.


  • #1546
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,239 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    I believe the mod note specifies that this thread is about Biden. There is another thread for Trump. Moreover spending years complaining about Trunp then when Biden does something not seen before rather than addressing the point the default answer is yeah but Trump.

    No thanks. I'm not playing the whataboutery spin the wheel game with you. Pass

    I'm merely pointing that you have zero credibility when you had zero problem with Trump truly acting like a king. Hypocrisy will do that to you.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #1547
    uncleoswald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Signing executive orders is like raising the national debt, the right only cares when dems do it.

    A lot of those were to combat covid. Let's do a count at the end of Biden's term.


  • #1548
    relax carry on
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    Almost as if there was some sort of global emergency requiring immediate actions which included correcting the incompetence of the previous administration. Won't someone think of the children!


  • #1549
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.


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  • #1550
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,882 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    Your guy lost, get over it.


  • #1551
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,510 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    About half of then are related to battling Covid 19 and were needed due to the inaction and lack of planning of the last administration. Most of the others were to reverse the most egregious executive orders by Trump like the Paris climate accord and withdrawing from the WHO.

    You're fooling nobody with your faux outrage.


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  • #1552
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Well, actions so have consequences and what we're seeing here is McConnell and co suffering the consequences of openly trying to block anything and everything Obama passed through Congress for years on end, as they currently desperately fight for their filibuster to do the same.

    That's a lot to get done for someone who apparently gets nothing done though it has to be said, goes to show what can be achieved when the person in the role doesn't spend the majority of their day shouting at clouds on Twitter.


  • #1553
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,882 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Well, actions so have consequences and what we're seeing here is McConnell and co suffering the consequences of openly trying to block anything and everything Obama passed through Congress for years on end, as they currently desperately fight for their filibuster to do the same.

    That's a lot to get done for someone who apparently gets nothing done though it has to be said, goes to show what can be achieved when the person in the role doesn't spend the majority of their day shouting at clouds on Twitter.

    Or golfing on the taxpayers dollar.


  • #1554
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    After you eventually look up the word "grifting", you might want to look up the word "dictatorship".

    I don't even know where "he's working too hard he needs to slow down" puts you in the stages of denial. You might even have created a completely new stage, fair play.


  • #1555
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    relax carry on wrote: »
    Almost as if there was some sort of global emergency requiring immediate actions which included correcting the incompetence of the previous administration. Won't someone think of the children!

    He also has to use Executive orders right now as because McConnell has refused to agree to the new "Terms of Congress" or whatever it's called , GOP Senators are still the chairs of all the committees despite losing the Majority and as such they would refuse to bring any of his requests to the floor.

    See for example yesterday Graham , who is still the chairman of the Judicial committee refusing to hold an approval hearing for Merrick Garland (deja vu anyone???) because of the impeachment trial.


  • #1556
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.


    https://twitter.com/bye45scienceLvr/status/1355357841180114953?s=20

    Hopefully back in stock soon

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  • #1557
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭weisses


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    I believe the mod note specifies that this thread is about Biden. There is another thread for Trump.No thanks. I'm not playing the whataboutery spin the wheel game with you. Pass

    You brought in 4 different presidents and used them to engage in pointless, childish whataboutery ..... Try again in 4 years when there is a possibility you can give your full support to another wannabe dictator


  • #1558
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I generally think that EO are a bad idea, they end up with each new Admin merely wiping out all the previous EO and putting in their own, costing millions in terms of any organisations affected having to update policies, rules, etc. Just for a few years, later everything goes back again.

    On the other hand, the very reason that people vote for change is, well, change. People voted Trump out of office and Biden in and their vote must be respected. The country didn't like the policies that Trump had followed and liked those that Biden espoused.

    So why should they have to wait until the GOP agree to something? They lost, time for change now. Now in many cases that change can wait until legislation is agreed and passed through, but in some cases immediate action is required.

    Climate change, membership of WHO, Paris Accord, dealing with separated children.

    What I would say is that at least Biden seems to be trying to achieve things with many of his EO. In many cases Trump just wanted to stop things from Obama or put something through knowing that it would never get passed or it was even unconstitutional, but he needed the PR (Muslim ban being the best example)

    What Biden needs to do, IMO, is follow a very aggressive agenda. Keep things moving. Keep achieving things. Many are not going to like what he does no matter what, so they are never going to be happy. But by making things happen, positive things, people can start to feel that the government can actually achieve things.

    One of Trumps big failings was he was lazy. He could only do one thing at a time, spent too much time focused on himself and not on actually delivering. Everything was too drawn out, everything was two weeks away.


  • #1559
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    No matter how many executive orders he signed in his first week you would have come up with some form of faux outrage comment:

    >5: The comment you made.
    5: Oh look, it's going to be exactly like Obama's term isn't it?
    4: I thought people were saying he would do more work than Trump did?
    <4: He's not working as hard as Trump was.


  • #1560
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just to clarify, is there anybody here who has a problem with "The American Way" (wrongly known as capitalism) regardless of who's in charge?

    This too shall pass.



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  • #1561
    randd1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭randd1


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Joe Biden has carried out 33 executive orders in his first week as president.

    This compares to

    5 by Obama
    4 by Trump
    1 by Clinton
    And zero by Bush jr

    Some were directly overturning Trumps while others were because he felt it should be so.

    Dictatorial like governance from the get go.

    I thought you Trump fans like a dictator style president and instant decision making? If it was Trump doing it you’d have to be out on a drip for dehydration because of how much you’d have creamed your pants.

    Make up your minds will ye as to what ye want.


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