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N5 - Westport to Turlough [open to traffic]

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dudda wrote: »
    That's a big hole they're digging. What's this for? Is it just the rock they need do you think?

    I expect just for free rock. Where about is it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    I expect just for free rock. Where about is it ?

    It's a photo from the drone photography a few posts back. I presume it's close to the N84 junction on the Ballinrobe road as that's where the other photos are from but can't be sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Latest drone pics of the huge cutting underway on the Milebush Road outside Castlebar

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2784358485224858&id=2224058757921503&ref=page_internal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Some dashcam footage when I passed the Westport Rd crossing on Friday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Latest satellite imagery of the Castlebar bypass section of the route, from this Sunday.

    535682.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭yannakis


    Latest satellite imagery of the Castlebar bypass section of the route, from this Sunday.

    Mind me asking what was the source you used there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Sentinel satellite imagery, Google Sentinel Hub
    yannakis wrote: »
    Mind me asking what was the source you used there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    New diversion open on the Belcarra road today to allow construction of bridge over the N5 mainline. Pic by Jack Walsh drone photography.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    I went exploring along the new route today for the first time in a while. The contractor was hard at it, despite the wet conditions. Here are some of my observations (going from east to west along the route) -

    1) Temporary diversion for N60 traffic appears complete but is not yet open. When opened, this will allow the existing N60 to be dug up and replaced by a bridge.

    2) Diversion is open on the Belcarra Road as shown in post above.

    3) The N84 junction is the most progressed of the main structures - they were topping off the bridge abutments today (no beams in place yet). The new N84 will be slightly offline here, so no traffic diversion is required for the bridge works (unlike at N60 junction).

    4) Lough Lannagh causeway has been raised further since I last saw it in the summer - it's now at least 2 metres above the lake level.

    5) Digging on several cuttings in the Islandeady area has progressed well. Diversion is open on the main Islandeady Road and rebar is in place for the overbridge foundations.

    6) Digging has started on a massive cutting at Kilbree, west of Islandeady, but there's a long way to go on this.

    7) Earthworks are also underway around the Lodge Road crossing at the edge of Westport, and the adjacent area where the planned Knockranny link road and Westport relief road will meet the new dual carriageway.

    8) Rockfill foundations are in place for a few hundred metres of the N59 realignment, including the future N5/N59 roundabout. They haven't started the monster cutting through Barleyhill yet - I can't wait to see the traffic management once they start this, as it will cross the existing N59 at four locations over a distance of just 1km!


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭steeler j


    I went exploring along the new route today for the first time in a while. The contractor was hard at it, despite the wet conditions. Here are some of my observations (going from east to west along the route) -

    1) Temporary diversion for N60 traffic appears complete but is not yet open. When opened, this will allow the existing N60 to be dug up and replaced by a bridge.

    2) Diversion is open on the Belcarra Road as shown in post above.

    3) The N84 junction is the most progressed of the main structures - they were topping off the bridge abutments today (no beams in place yet). The new N84 will be slightly offline here, so no traffic diversion is required for the bridge works (unlike at N60 junction).

    4) Lough Lannagh causeway has been raised further since I last saw it in the summer - it's now at least 2 metres above the lake level.

    5) Digging on several cuttings in the Islandeady area has progressed well. Diversion is open on the main Islandeady Road and rebar is in place for the overbridge foundations.

    6) Digging has started on a massive cutting at Kilbree, west of Islandeady, but there's a long way to go on this.

    7) Earthworks are also underway around the Lodge Road crossing at the edge of Westport, and the adjacent area where the planned Knockranny link road and Westport relief road will meet the new dual carriageway.

    8) Rockfill foundations are in place for a few hundred metres of the N59 realignment, including the future N5/N59 roundabout. They haven't started the monster cutting through Barleyhill yet - I can't wait to see the traffic management once they start this, as it will cross the existing N59 at four locations over a distance of just 1km!

    Thanks ,very informative


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    I went exploring along the new route today for the first time in a while. The contractor was hard at it, despite the wet conditions. Here are some of my observations (going from east to west along the route) -

    1) Temporary diversion for N60 traffic appears complete but is not yet open. When opened, this will allow the existing N60 to be dug up and replaced by a bridge.

    2) Diversion is open on the Belcarra Road as shown in post above.

    3) The N84 junction is the most progressed of the main structures - they were topping off the bridge abutments today (no beams in place yet). The new N84 will be slightly offline here, so no traffic diversion is required for the bridge works (unlike at N60 junction).

    4) Lough Lannagh causeway has been raised further since I last saw it in the summer - it's now at least 2 metres above the lake level.

    5) Digging on several cuttings in the Islandeady area has progressed well. Diversion is open on the main Islandeady Road and rebar is in place for the overbridge foundations.

    6) Digging has started on a massive cutting at Kilbree, west of Islandeady, but there's a long way to go on this.

    7) Earthworks are also underway around the Lodge Road crossing at the edge of Westport, and the adjacent area where the planned Knockranny link road and Westport relief road will meet the new dual carriageway.

    8) Rockfill foundations are in place for a few hundred metres of the N59 realignment, including the future N5/N59 roundabout. They haven't started the monster cutting through Barleyhill yet - I can't wait to see the traffic management once they start this, as it will cross the existing N59 at four locations over a distance of just 1km!

    After Christmas I'd say for the n60 diversion. Most construction sites will be winding up Friday.

    Is it an overbridge or underbridge for the existing n60.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    N60 is going over the mainline
    irishgeo wrote: »
    After Christmas I'd say for the n60 diversion. Most construction sites will be winding up Friday.

    Is it an overbridge or underbridge for the existing n60.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Few pics from yesterday (just phone pics so not brilliant) -

    Bridge works at N84 junction
    536193.jpg


    Lough Lannagh causeway
    536194.jpg


    Diggers working on the cutting at Kilbree
    536195.jpg


    Looking towards Castlebar from Lodge Road crossing in Westport
    536196.jpg


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Whereabouts is the causeway on lough lannagh? Thought the road didn't go anywhere near there.

    Edit: Sorry I see now it skirts the southern end.

    Interestingly I notice the new road is already on Bing maps for some reason:

    536197.JPG


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Whereabouts is the causeway on lough lannagh? Thought the road didn't go anywhere near there.

    Edit: Sorry I see now it skirts the southern end.

    Interestingly I notice the new road is already on Bing maps for some reason:

    536197.JPG

    Bing aren’t very accurate with their location of Burrishoole Abbey either


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    marno21 wrote: »
    Bing aren’t very accurate with their location of Burrishoole Abbey either

    There, much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    marno21 wrote: »
    Bing aren’t very accurate with their location of Burrishoole Abbey either

    much better satellite pictures than google though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    Microsoft's Maps app in Windows 10, which uses the same basic dataset as Bing Maps, does not show the new road. I'd expect it to disappear from the web version next time they regenerate the tiles.

    Despite it being a bug, I found it interesting to see the old and new roads together at the same classification on one map.

    Generally, for the Republic of Ireland, the OSI geohive site (http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html) has the best mapping and aerial photography - it's also the only online service I've seen where the map and aerial line up exactly: a sure sign that actual cartographers were involved. Google is really only good if you need to locate a business - if you want accurate mapping, there are better alternatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dudda


    Aerial Photography varies a lot. I have to deal with them fairly regularly for work and you've to check all three (Bing, Google & OSI) to see which is the most current. Google would have the most current and then a few months later Bing would get an update and be the most current and then the OSI would update again later. Then you've the issue where some parts of the country are updated and other's aren't. There isn't one source who's always consistently the most up to date.

    Anyway back on topic. I do a bit of running and a few running friends have started to run the route on Sunday when no construction is taking place and some have shared photos. I'm going to leave it till the summer as it's just a mud track with large stones that could twist an ankle. I am looking forward to running it in the summer as it should be possible in the evening as well when it gets it first layer of tar. It will be a huge straight road, no traffic and gently slopes and turns. I imagine it would be good for cyclist too. until it officially opens and becomes dangerous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Construction underway on the N5 railway crossing east of Castlebar:

    536574.jpg

    (It's a screengrab of a video taken from a moving train so quality isn't great!)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Temporary diversion of the N60 at Breaffy due to open on Thursday, weather permitting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭DrSerious3


    Would a ban on construction spell the end of this project for a time I wonder?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes, and likely all projects like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    According to RTE, "social housing and essential public projects" will continue with a list to be published. This is the state limiting their exposure to increased costs resulting from shutting down all of their projects. I'd expect projects like this will continue on site given the potential cost implications and being low risk as most of the work is being done by lads alone in machines. Lets hope so anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We'll manage with a few weeks of delay on a road project in Mayo and other projects like it. Anything beyond a full lockdown like March is just prolonging the hardship and delaying the inevitable. These lads alone in machines have to travel to work, buy diesel/petrol, buy their lunch, interact at some point, use toilet facilities in cramped portocabins etc etc. We need to take this seriously and road projects are just not a priority right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    We'll manage with a few weeks of delay on a road project in Mayo and other projects like it. Anything beyond a full lockdown like March is just prolonging the hardship and delaying the inevitable. These lads alone in machines have to travel to work, buy diesel/petrol, buy their lunch, interact at some point, use toilet facilities in cramped portocabins etc etc. We need to take this seriously and road projects are just not a priority right now.

    Millions of € are going to be lost by shutting down projects like this between paying lads to sit at home, additional prelims to the contractor, indirect costs due to late delivery, etc. We have no shortage of other uses for that money.

    A couple of big state projects like this would account for a proportionally larger amount of the costs of the shut down. Close 99% of projects but money saved by keeping the like of this going would cover the cost of a fair few of those shut down. Most of the workers here will be local anyway, no shortage of plant operators in rural counties, they don't need to import them from around the country.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They're not just going to sack x amount of people because they have to travel and hire y all of a shot. We really need to get real here. In all likelihood, given the hints thrown out today, these projects will be cancelled. If they decide to keep them open, they'll change their minds next week like they will with the LC. Reactive measures instead of using the readily available data and forecasts and making correct judgments in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Didn't they keep some critical infrastructure open last time? They mentioned it again this time but I don't know if that means road construction, or even this road in particular.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 thomas385


    I'm pretty sure that work was halted for the very first 2 week lockdown back in March/April, but resumed after that


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The likes of the N4, N22 etc were closed for 7 weeks in lockdown 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    New road markings and temporary cats eyes put down for the temporary diversion at breaffy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    The diversion is now open on the breaffy road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Do we know if the work sites have closed or not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Hyland17


    The job is closed until further advice from government. Have a mate on it and told to wait at home until he hears more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 thomas385


    Bit crazy all the same, like most of the work at this stage is done by diggers and the like. No major chance of spreading there.

    The work on the Barley Hill stretch has been ongoing since Monday but I presume that will cease as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Hyland17 wrote: »
    The job is closed until further advice from government. Have a mate on it and told to wait at home until he hears more.

    why bother diverting the road if they were closing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Hyland17


    Official confirmation was given today. Had to keep the diversion open as the roadmarkings were laid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Very strange as the N22 scheme is not closing as per posts on other thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    N60 diversion courtesy of Jack Walsh Drone Photography

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  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Drone shot of the future Islandeady overbridge, you can clearly see the foundations of the bridge abutments.

    A 9-month road closure had been planned here, but after the locals complained and the parish priest threatened to lie down in front of the diggers, the contractor relented and built the small diversion you can see in the pic. A closure will still be needed to tie in the existing road with the new bridge, but I'd imagine that would just be a few weeks at worst.

    Hopefully the contractor can get back to work soon.

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    Pic courtesy of Jack Walsh drone photography.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 41 thomas385


    New issue of newsletter is up on the scheme website


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    some activity still going on. I seen a truck and tractor pulling a machine turning in at the breaffy crossing the last 2 mornings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    There has been a decent amount of activity at the N84 junction in the last week or so. Not at the same level as previously but the two lads that stop the traffic are back and there is some work going on. Pretty sure I have heard some blasting as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Job is back open from today


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Do you know if this is because there's been some change in guidance from the government or has Wills just decided this for themselves?
    Job is back open from today


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Do you know if this is because there's been some change in guidance from the government or has Wills just decided this for themselves?
    Some other jobs in Cork have resumed today after being suspended since Christmas. AFAIK it's at the discretion of the local authority as to what constituted critical projects and some others may have been moved into this category?


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    I was surprised that the N5 and N22 were stopped at all given that road construction work appeared to be in the clear - the guidelines state "repair, maintenance and construction of critical transport and utility infrastructure" is essential. Maybe the local authorities were just being cautious.

    Either way, great news that it's starting up again. I can't wait to see the earthworks at Barleyhill and the traffic management plan they come up with for that area. The new road crosses the current N59 four times in just 1km so it won't be simple!


    marno21 wrote: »
    Some other jobs in Cork have resumed today after being suspended since Christmas. AFAIK it's at the discretion of the local authority as to what constituted critical projects and some others may have been moved into this category?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Do you know if this is because there's been some change in guidance from the government or has Wills just decided this for themselves?


    The Connaught said it was after consultation between TII and the contractors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    I was surprised that the N5 and N22 were stopped at all given that road construction work appeared to be in the clear - the guidelines state "repair, maintenance and construction of critical transport and utility infrastructure" is essential. Maybe the local authorities were just being cautious.

    Either way, great news that it's starting up again. I can't wait to see the earthworks at Barleyhill and the traffic management plan they come up with for that area. The new road crosses the current N59 four times in just 1km so it won't be simple!

    Divert via Castlebar


  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Update on the project from the Western People - it's still on track for completion in October next year, despite Covid lockdowns.

    https://westernpeople.ie/2021/02/06/good-news-on-e241m-road-project-for-mayo/


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