Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

hurler on de ditch · 30-01-2021 12:08am

BazBox wrote: »

Wouldn't go that far now. A good option off the bench but not good enough to start regularly under the last 3 managers

Those three managers won all around them , fair play to all three

hurler on de ditch · 30-01-2021 12:11am

Waternut wrote: »

The boat has sailed with this one unfortunately and it's no disrespect to the man because you genuinely couldn't meet a nicer man than Maurice.

It's a younger man's game and the modern forward needs to be mobile and have pace. Both Maurice and Noel were fantastic but Waterford need to now look to the future. And by the way, I think Moran's number is up too.

The younger lads need to be given an opportunity and we need to invest properly in our underage teams and structures.

Moran finished with years imo, grand when he has possession , but a marker , totally finished

SeanieW1977 · 31-01-2021 1:54am

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40217390.html?fbclid=IwAR0uXjazv9Xl4dkTAIUERXdXHc0UDHYS0_-TPobP8Mjk9NrOwkXKpULUnTM

This is absolutely desperate. That they paid other panels and of course all the officer expenses shows the complete contempt with which football is treated.

Reality is this wouldn’t be sorted only for it ended up in media. There are now very direct comparisons between waterford gaa and the fai.

Deskjockey · 31-01-2021 11:50am

SeanieW1977 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40217390.html?fbclid=IwAR0uXjazv9Xl4dkTAIUERXdXHc0UDHYS0_-TPobP8Mjk9NrOwkXKpULUnTM

This is absolutely desperate. That they paid other panels and of course all the officer expenses shows the complete contempt with which football is treated.

Reality is this wouldn’t be sorted only for it ended up in media. There are now very direct comparisons between waterford gaa and the fai.

That is poor form. You would want to be fairly committed to play football for Waterford and have a thick skin, as the players get treated so poorly and as second class citizens.

The excuse in the final paragraph is absolute rubbish.

"Jackson said the remote nature of last month's convention was the reason clubs were not made aware of the cash flow issues around paying expenses: "In the past we would have been able to put the breakdown on the screen and available for clubs to discuss with us, but that wasn't possible when we were meeting with Microsoft Teams."

Tiger Roll · 31-01-2021 11:53am

Deskjockey wrote:

"Jackson said the remote nature of last month's convention was the reason clubs were not made aware of the cash flow issues around paying expenses: "In the past we would have been able to put the breakdown on the screen and available for clubs to discuss with us, but that wasn't possible when we were meeting with Microsoft Teams."

Was he not able to click the share screen button !! Ridiculous stuff in this day and age .

Venom69 · 31-01-2021 1:55pm

The disrespect for football by some of our hurling overlords at board level is hardly surprising.

It's been accepted and tolerated for years.

SeanieW1977 · 31-01-2021 2:41pm

Tiger Roll wrote: »

Was he not able to click the share screen button !! Ridiculous stuff in this day and age .

They surely shared stuff at the agm?!

Mastermcgrath · 31-01-2021 11:17pm

Deskjockey wrote: »

That is poor form. You would want to be fairly committed to play football for Waterford and have a thick skin, as the players get treated so poorly and as second class citizens.

The excuse in the final paragraph is absolute rubbish.

"Jackson said the remote nature of last month's convention was the reason clubs were not made aware of the cash flow issues around paying expenses: "In the past we would have been able to put the breakdown on the screen and available for clubs to discuss with us, but that wasn't possible when we were meeting with Microsoft Teams."

This is an embarrassing response from Jackson. This guy been involved in administration in GAA with 40 years and that’s the best he can come up with?
Time to go Johnny.

Deisefacts · 01-02-2021 4:11pm

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

This is an embarrassing response from Jackson. This guy been involved in administration in GAA with 40 years and that’s the best he can come up with?
Time to go Johnny.

This isn’t just about football v hurling again and which one gets treated better. Some of our senior hurlers haven’t gotten their expenses either, nor the senior footballers, minor hurlers, minor footballers or u-20 Hurlers. I expect most people on here are club members just go and ask your club colleagues, who are on county panels,have they been paid their expenses? The accounts were done up to the 31/10/20” IF” the accounts have on them that the players were paid before then, then the board, financial controller, treasurer lied to the auditor and so the books were then effectively cooked, which is illegal and is a criminal offence. “IF” they don’t show that the players were paid before the 31/10 then the €34,000 for the u-20 football seems absolutely crazy for 15 training sessions and 4 matches. Of the 25 training sessions that were had 14 of them were in the Fraher Field/show grounds, so paying for a venue was an issue there. For the 19 times they met up works out at roughly €1750 per occasion. If that’s the case a major review needs to be carried out. Then a full breakdown of the €34,000 needs to be provided by the board.

Outside of all of these things, are the finances of the board and the management of these finances not a worry to people? If at the 31/10 we were in debt to the tune of €230,000 and the vast majority of our expenses from 2020 occurred between October and December. We could be potentially in debt to the tune of €500,000 right now. That’s mind blowing. As in any business you just can’t keep piling debt on top of debt.

The accounts need a proper investigation, something similar to what croke park did with the Galway finances a few years ago. There’s no way anyone is suggesting that anybody is on the take but it’s more to the fact that certain individuals are incapable of looking after the finances of the county.

On a side note, where’s the results of the review that was promised? Cork have had 2 reviews done after our one began and Offaly are carrying out a very comprehensive review and everybody gets to have an input.

Deisefacts · 01-02-2021 4:19pm

Deisefacts wrote: »

This isn’t just about football v hurling again and which one gets treated better. Some of our senior hurlers haven’t gotten their expenses either, nor the senior footballers, minor hurlers, minor footballers or u-20 Hurlers. I expect most people on here are club members just go and ask your club colleagues, who are on county panels,have they been paid their expenses? The accounts were done up to the 31/10/20” IF” the accounts have on them that the players were paid before then, then the board, financial controller, treasurer lied to the auditor and so the books were then effectively cooked, which is illegal and is a criminal offence. “IF” they don’t show that the players were paid before the 31/10 then the €34,000 for the u-20 football seems absolutely crazy for 15 training sessions and 4 matches. Of the 25 training sessions that were had 14 of them were in the Fraher Field/show grounds, so paying for a venue was an issue there. For the 19 times they met up works out at roughly €1750 per occasion. If that’s the case a major review needs to be carried out. Then a full breakdown of the €34,000 needs to be provided by the board.

Outside of all of these things, are the finances of the board and the management of these finances not a worry to people? If at the 31/10 we were in debt to the tune of €230,000 and the vast majority of our expenses from 2020 occurred between October and December. We could be potentially in debt to the tune of €500,000 right now. That’s mind blowing. As in any business you just can’t keep piling debt on top of debt.

The accounts need a proper investigation, something similar to what croke park did with the Galway finances a few years ago. There’s no way anyone is suggesting that anybody is on the take but it’s more to the fact that certain individuals are incapable of looking after the finances of the county.

On a side note, where’s the results of the review that was promised? Cork have had 2 reviews done after our one began and Offaly are carrying out a very comprehensive review and everybody gets to have an input.

Also, John Jackson never attended the county board AGM so the chairman stated that there would be no questions asked in relation to finances at the AGM. It must also be stated that the treasurer job isn’t what it was before. The main 2 people over the finances in the county are the financial controller and county secretary( who were both logged on the night of the meeting).

Mastermcgrath · 02-02-2021 8:21pm

Deisefacts wrote: »

Also, John Jackson never attended the county board AGM so the chairman stated that there would be no questions asked in relation to finances at the AGM. It must also be stated that the treasurer job isn’t what it was before. The main 2 people over the finances in the county are the financial controller and county secretary( who were both logged on the night of the meeting).

No questions about finances? This is John Delaney type stuff

Jerry Atrick · 03-02-2021 9:14am

Croker have their eyes on this and pressure is being applied. Watch this space.

SeanieW1977 · 03-02-2021 5:08pm

It would be long overdue - deloitte should be in there as well as revenue.

Venom69 · 05-02-2021 7:45pm

Great to see paul whyte become a selector with senior footballers.

Fantastic player who gave unbelievable commitment to Waterford.

DiscoStew · 06-02-2021 8:12pm

Tommy Ryan training Cork side Russell Rovers for the coming year. Interesting to see how he balances that with his own playing commitments with Tallow in what will surely be a condensed season.

https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-40221656.html

SeanieW1977 · 07-02-2021 7:00pm

DiscoStew wrote: »

Tommy Ryan training Cork side Russell Rovers for the coming year. Interesting to see how he balances that with his own playing commitments with Tallow in what will surely be a condensed season.

https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-40221656.html

How old is tommy ryan?! Didn’t think he was 30?!

Billy Ocean · 07-02-2021 7:20pm

SeanieW1977 wrote: »

How old is tommy ryan?! Didn’t think he was 30?!

he turns 30 this year

Waternut · 07-02-2021 9:16pm

Billy Ocean wrote: »

he turns 30 this year

Was he involved with the Waterford U20's or minors last year or was that a differen Ryan?
Best of luck to him and hopefully he develops into a top class coach and / or manager.

TheScoringGoal · 07-02-2021 9:32pm

Waternut wrote: »

Was he involved with the Waterford U20's or minors last year or was that a differen Ryan?
Best of luck to him and hopefully he develops into a top class coach and / or manager.

Pretty sure you're right and that he was involved with the minor team.

Mastermcgrath · 08-02-2021 1:02pm

Billy Ocean wrote: »

he turns 30 this year

He turns 32 to be precise

Billy Ocean · 08-02-2021 9:53pm

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

He turns 32 to be precise

apologies got mixed up with Brian O'Halloran

PTH2009 · 12-02-2021 9:34pm

Part 1- https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43403991

Part 2- https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43404018

Good interview with Liam Cahill, a bit surprised about the All Ireland Final training thing he said in part 2. Liam can speak for us all about how disappointing the GAA losing the elite sports tag

JeffKenna · 12-02-2021 11:11pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Part 1- https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43403991

Part 2- https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43404018

Good interview with Liam Cahill, a bit surprised about the All Ireland Final training thing he said in part 2. Liam can speak for us all about how disappointing the GAA losing the elite sports tag

Bit surprised at that myself. If he was doing his job right he should have dropped 7 or 8 of them for the final but couldn't because his head would be on the block.

BloodyBill · 13-02-2021 4:09pm

I think he might be planning ahead for when Waterford aee in another final ...that they can't afford to take the foot off the gas in anyway. Id have expected him to step in during the session and say ' WTF is with this drop off in standards' . Hes taking responsibility but he isn't. Its abit bizarre. Its Cahills first real knock back..and to be honest they need a good draw in the championship ...and avoid Limerick in the first round. Still they've every chance again

PTH2009 · 13-02-2021 9:18pm

It's going to be a hard road back and as was said we need a relativity easy draw in Munster but then again there is no easy draw in Munster. Cahills 2 years will be up this year and he could walk esp if the Tipp job is available

14-02-2021 12:15am

PTH2009 wrote: »

It's going to be a hard road back and as was said we need a relativity easy draw in Munster but then again there is no easy draw in Munster. Cahills 2 years will be up this year and he could walk esp if the Tipp job is available

If we dont win an all ireland under cahil,we never will with this group of players

I like the cut of his no nonsense,no excuses attitude,hard work eithic and the way he sets out the team to attack,attack,attack in waves....imo its setup best suited to put modern sweeper/tactics onto the back foot

hurler on de ditch · 14-02-2021 9:05am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If we dont win an all ireland under cahil,we never will with this group of players

I like the cut of his no nonsense,no excuses attitude,hard work eithic and the way he sets out the team to attack,attack,attack in waves....imo its setup best suited to put modern sweeper/tactics onto the back foot

most if not all managers have this no nonsense, hard work ethic , it's a requirement ,but also a thinking brain when your team is most under pressure , again we got totally carried away by the second half performance of the KK match , in all honesty 3 big beatings of the same team last year , so Cahill really needs to wake up ,he had with the exception of Shane Bennett and possibly P Mahoney a really good squad ,but his lack of balls to make the really big selective decisions was his downfall , as it was with the previous managers ,

TheScoringGoal · 14-02-2021 11:58am

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

most if not all managers have this no nonsense, hard work ethic , it's a requirement ,but also a thinking brain when your team is most under pressure , again we got totally carried away by the second half performance of the KK match , in all honesty 3 big beatings of the same team last year , so Cahill really needs to wake up ,he had with the exception of Shane Bennett and possibly P Mahoney a really good squad ,but his lack of balls to make the really big selective decisions was his downfall , as it was with the previous managers ,

I have no idea what three big beatings you're talking about. Do you consider the league game where we played fringe players and the Munster final to be big beatings? What selection decisions do you think he should have made that he didn't?

hurler on de ditch · 15-02-2021 8:49am

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

I have no idea what three big beatings you're talking about. Do you consider the league game where we played fringe players and the Munster final to be big beatings? What selection decisions do you think he should have made that he didn't?

if you have no idea , then you have no idea , I'll leave it at that ,

Punt Road · 15-02-2021 11:47am

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

most if not all managers have this no nonsense, hard work ethic , it's a requirement ,but also a thinking brain when your team is most under pressure , again we got totally carried away by the second half performance of the KK match , in all honesty 3 big beatings of the same team last year , so Cahill really needs to wake up ,he had with the exception of Shane Bennett and possibly P Mahoney a really good squad ,but his lack of balls to make the really big selective decisions was his downfall , as it was with the previous managers ,

What changes would you like to have seen for any of those limerick game HOD?

TheScoringGoal · 15-02-2021 12:47pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

if you have no idea , then you have no idea , I'll leave it at that ,

Apologies. I mistakenly thought statements can be supported by facts.

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-02-2021 2:10pm

I think Liam Cahill has done a magnificent job. It goes without saying!
However, I find the latest comments about training a bit off. The week before the All Ireland final, they didn't train well and it seemed like they were minding themselves? Surely that's down to the management to blow the whistle and stop training and give them a roasting to up the tempo. Perhaps it's just an after thought he had in the post game critical analysis or maybe he was misquoted.

TheScoringGoal · 15-02-2021 2:24pm

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

I think Liam Cahill has done a magnificent job. It goes without saying!
However, I find the latest comments about training a bit off. The week before the All Ireland final, they didn't train well and it seemed like they were minding themselves? Surely that's down to the management to blow the whistle and stop training and give them a roasting to up the tempo. Perhaps it's just an after thought he had in the post game critical analysis or maybe he was misquoted.

I'd agree with you. Perhaps it was annoyance at the announcement that the GAA was no longer elite but I found that a strange interview from Cahill and out of character at least with how he conducted himself previously. However one line that seems to have been largely overlooked was far more positive where he spoke of a number of players being brought in from a development perspective outside of the ones named. Last years under 20 team may have been beaten but there would be a few that have shown they could potentially step up to senior.

JeffKenna · 15-02-2021 2:27pm

Jjjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

I think Liam Cahill has done a magnificent job. It goes without saying!
However, I find the latest comments about training a bit off. The week before the All Ireland final, they didn't train well and it seemed like they were minding themselves? Surely that's down to the management to blow the whistle and stop training and give them a roasting to up the tempo. Perhaps it's just an after thought he had in the post game critical analysis or maybe he was misquoted.

I'll get slated for this I know, but as great of a job Liam Cahill as done (and he has done a fantastic one) I don't get the reasoning for the criticism of the players. The way the game went with the physicality and cynical nature of Limerick combined with a dud of a referee I really think they did brilliantly not to leave their heads drop and keep going. I mean look at the treatment Austin got, sur they knew what they were doing as he's always being watched like a hawk for anything he does but in fairness to the man he responded and put in an outstanding performance.

BloodyBill · 15-02-2021 6:30pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

I'll get slated for this I know, but as great of a job Liam Cahill as done (and he has done a fantastic one) I don't get the reasoning for the criticism of the players. The way the game went with the physicality and cynical nature of Limerick combined with a dud of a referee I really think they did brilliantly not to leave their heads drop and keep going. I mean look at the treatment Austin got, sur they knew what they were doing as he's always being watched like a hawk for anything he does but in fairness to the man he responded and put in an outstanding performance.

Sore loser. And factually incorrect. Limerick do play on the edge and thats how we like it..its up to Waterford to match them. The ref gave ye plenty. You definitely don't speak for the Waterford people I met who actually complimented Limericks power and game awareness.And in all fairness Waterford did let their heads drop in the last 15 mins and thats ok. Waterford will be good again don't worry.

Mastermcgrath · 16-02-2021 11:54am

BloodyBill wrote: »

Sore loser. And factually incorrect. Limerick do play on the edge and thats how we like it..its up to Waterford to match them. The ref gave ye plenty. You definitely don't speak for the Waterford people I met who actually complimented Limericks power and game awareness.And in all fairness Waterford did let their heads drop in the last 15 mins and thats ok. Waterford will be good again don't worry.

Look seeing as youre already offended I might aswell chip in here too, I think many Waterford people don’t want to be seen as sore losers but the view across the country is that Limerick are bad for hurling. Fair play to them they’ve found a way to be successful fair and square with sheer physicality and no little skill, and it’s up to other counties to find a way to counteract it. Personally I don’t think it would be good for the game if that type of ‘hurling’ was to win them another 2 or 3 in a row and hopefully the other counties can find a way to win without deviating away from the fundamentals of the game.

Giveitfong · 16-02-2021 6:18pm

Liam Cahill’s interview with WLR revealed a person who is very open, honest, reflective and self-effacing (the latter making a welcome contrast with some current and past county hurling managers who are big into self-promotion). He has also made it clear that he is still learning his trade and anxious to identify mistakes he has made and make sure they do not happen again.

I do think he was beating himself up too much about both the lead-up to the All-Ireland final and the game itself. I welcome his fixation with winning titles, but he needs to be realistic about what was achievable in his first year in charge.

What he did achieve was almost miraculous, given the low position from which his charges were starting. He had, for the most part, a very inexperienced team new to the demands of top-level intercounty hurling. As he said in his interview, he only had twelve weeks to work with them in terms of developing their hurling.

It should not be surprising that, given this background, they might flag a little coming into the All-Ireland final. They had played four high-octane games in rapid succession. The tension and energy involved in their win against Kilkenny (during which they played possibly the best half-hour’s hurling I have ever seen from a Waterford team) represented a “high” from which quick recovery would have been difficult.

Even then, I don’t think Waterford played poorly in the final. It’s just that they came up against physically powerful opponents who have been developing a highly effective game plan over several years, and who played some brilliant hurling on the day. As I wrote here, the final scoring difference did not accurately reflect the real difference between the teams on the field. With a couple of breaks, and a decent referee, Waterford could have been in contention going into the final stages.

One of the things I like about Cahill is his fixation on scoring goals, and this was again reflected in the interview in his mention of how, with greater vision, Waterford could have created a couple of extra goal chances against Limerick. You could say the same about the game against Kilkenny where the clear opportunities were there for two or three more goals.

I have long felt that there should be a lot more goals scored in modern hurling, given the light ball and the players’ high skill levels. However, too often, players are happy to take the handy point unless they are chasing the game. With the likes of Stephen Bennett, Patrick Curran and Dessie Hutchinson in the team, Waterford could score hatfuls of goals. I expect that, if he ever gets a chance to work with the team this year, he will be drilling into the players the need to be on the lookout for team mates in better positions around the goal. I think Waterford could be major beneficiaries if the GAA passes the proposals for greater penalties for cynical fouling.

However, for me (as with TheScoringGoal), the biggest thing I took from the interview was his revelation that, apart from those already named, he has brought a number of young players into the training panel with a view to long-term development. As I wrote here recently, I was very disappointed with how, apart from Michael Kiely, none of the many talented young players who had emerged in the last couple of years appeared to have been brought into the squad. I am glad to now find that this was not correct.

In this respect, I wonder how Cahill will be relating to the Under-20 mentors in particular. Hopefully there will be good co-operation between them, to the benefit of both. Waterford GAA (as in many other areas) has poor development structures and it would be nice (if naïve) to think that this might be the setting a precedent which can be built upon for the future. It also shows that Cahill is not confined to the short-term thinking which envelops many people in his position.

PTH2009 · 16-02-2021 10:54pm

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/43447035

Another interview with Cahill

Door has not been closed fully for Darragh Fives and he along with Pauric and TDB are away rehabilitating their injuries

hurler on de ditch · 17-02-2021 12:39am

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

Apologies. I mistakenly thought statements can be supported by facts.

seriously no need to apologise

BloodyBill · 17-02-2021 9:31am

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Look seeing as youre already offended I might aswell chip in here too, I think many Waterford people don’t want to be seen as sore losers but the view across the country is that Limerick are bad for hurling. Fair play to them they’ve found a way to be successful fair and square with sheer physicality and no little skill, and it’s up to other counties to find a way to counteract it. Personally I don’t think it would be good for the game if that type of ‘hurling’ was to win them another 2 or 3 in a row and hopefully the other counties can find a way to win without deviating away from the fundamentals of the game.

I understand what your saying. You're right ,alot of people across the country struggle to like the way Limerick play. There's a few reasons for that.. one is probably the natural affinity Irish people have for the small fella' or underdog. Secondly there's a genuine worry that more skillfull gameplans and players will be made redundant or nullified by more dominant, physical opponents working with a coach who is the market leader. Thirdly there's the fear of change..the fact that teams and counties have to adapt and change their outlook on how the game is or ought to be played.
From my point of view and the traditional Limerick view on how the game should be played...this team represent how Limerick people like their hurling and sport. The great 30's team of Mackey ,Cross,Ryan were a physically imposing ruthless team who lived on and over the edge. There's a long held love of the hard tackle and brutal physicality of that team and indeed rugby teams that come from Limerick. And a love if skill too. Everyone loves to see the Hutchinson type of corner forward sniping a goal...but for many many Limerick people there's more of a love for a corner back who plants him into row z with a tackle.. Your either or I think or abit of both.
The prevailing narrative peddled in the GAA is that Limerick are over the edge. Its not true of course. They get pinged all the time but still the narrative is there that they are somehow getting away with their fouling or over physical approach. Untrue of course .
What I would say to Waterford people is this is not a new gripe from you. I remember Clare took you apart physically in 98 and Cork before that . You didn't address the lack of ruthlessness and physicality. Its still your biggest issue. And I love Waterford hurling.

Punt Road · 17-02-2021 9:49am

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

seriously no need to apologise

Originally Posted by hurler on de ditch
most if not all managers have this no nonsense, hard work ethic , it's a requirement ,but also a thinking brain when your team is most under pressure , again we got totally carried away by the second half performance of the KK match , in all honesty 3 big beatings of the same team last year , so Cahill really needs to wake up ,he had with the exception of Shane Bennett and possibly P Mahoney a really good squad ,but his lack of balls to make the really big selective decisions was his downfall , as it was with the previous managers

What changes would you like to have seen for those limerick games HOD?

blueflame · 17-02-2021 3:14pm

Regarding Cahill's interview, hindsight is 20:20 vision and i believe his comments regarding the training are a reflection of a lesson learned and a marker being set down for the future.

The fact that lads were possibly "minding themselves" in training, with just a week to go is to be expected for these lads who found themselves in an unlikely position of being in an All Ireland Final - they had come off the back of a run of extremely tough games and nobody I am sure wanted to end up injured and missing out on the final.

From Cahill's point of view he would probably have been hoping that they would explode onto Croke Park and making five or six changes would have been simply crazy. But he has now set down a marker for this year, stating that in his view that is not the way to prepare and the panel is now forewarned for the future.

On reflection we quite simply did not get the breaks we needed on the day and we were not powerful or developed enough to handle Limericks superior physicality. On the day we needed a "fussy referee" who would have hindered Limerick's superior physicality , we got Horgan - no more to be said. However we cannot rely in the future on getting the right referee, so i think a lot of time has to be spent developing our physicality and learning to cope with this side of the game, This means not only being stronger but being cuter and faster in our use of the ball and space - I believe Cahill will make big inroads in this regard, but whether or not we are good enough to win a title remains to be seen, - but i for one am certainly looking forward to seeing us try.

DiscoStew · 17-02-2021 11:06pm

Surprised to see no talk of the Strategic Review here. It was presented to club’s last night at an online meeting.
It’s an impressive document with a lot of ambitious targets. The Commercial Committee which has been established will have a job on their hands raising the amounts we are talking about.
Walsh Park design has been changed up a little & will now be completed in a phased basis over a number of years. Plans to change the seating in Fraher Field & develop an astro playing area in the show grounds also.

The review stopped short of recommending the abolition of the divisional boards unfortunately but has recommended a task force be put in place to review our current championship structures. Reducing the senior championship to 8 or 10 teams seems to be a plan for the near future & this should ideally coincide with the restructuring of the intermediate & junior championships to all county too. Having a senior, premier intermediate, intermediate, junior. Might even need a senior B championship too similar to Cork structures depending on the numbers in each championship.
Promising plans for underage structures also.

There is a press briefing tomorrow night I believe where more details might be released.

If they can deliver on it it will be a considerable achievement. But given our current financial situation it’s hard not to be sceptical.

SeanieW1977 · 17-02-2021 11:32pm

DiscoStew wrote: »

Surprised to see no talk of the Strategic Review here. It was presented to club’s last night at an online meeting.
It’s an impressive document with a lot of ambitious targets. The Commercial Committee which has been established will have a job on their hands raising the amounts we are talking about.
Walsh Park design has been changed up a little & will now be completed in a phased basis over a number of years. Plans to change the seating in Fraher Field & develop an astro playing area in the show grounds also.

The review stopped short of recommending the abolition of the divisional boards unfortunately but has recommended a task force be put in place to review our current championship structures. Reducing the senior championship to 8 or 10 teams seems to be a plan for the near future & this should ideally coincide with the restructuring of the intermediate & junior championships to all county too. Having a senior, premier intermediate, intermediate, junior. Might even need a senior B championship too similar to Cork structures depending on the numbers in each championship.
Promising plans for underage structures also.

There is a press briefing tomorrow night I believe where more details might be released.

If they can deliver on it it will be a considerable achievement. But given our current financial situation it’s hard not to be sceptical.

The biggest issue that the people who ran the board into the ground over last 20 years are now expected to somehow turn the boards fortunes around.

Leopards don’t change their spots.

Got a copy of the report today, it’s ambitious but worrying. The board needs a massive overhaul in both paid and unpaid positions.

PTH2009 · 18-02-2021 1:23am

What's the changes been made to the Walsh Park redevelopment ?

If covid never happened among other things the place should of been redeveloped already

Mastermcgrath · 18-02-2021 2:46am

SeanieW1977 wrote: »

The biggest issue that the people who ran the board into the ground over last 20 years are now expected to somehow turn the boards fortunes around.

Leopards don’t change their spots.

Got a copy of the report today, it’s ambitious but worrying. The board needs a massive overhaul in both paid and unpaid positions.

I think if there’s enough quality people willing to put themselves forward and invest their time in gaa administration in the county them the status quo can be chucked aside fairly easily, unfortunately that’s not the case so it’s the same old duds sitting there making all the big decisions, or not making the big decisions, as it happens

PTH2009 · 19-02-2021 3:14am

What's the story with the Walsh Park redevelopment change ?

PTH2009 · 19-02-2021 3:21pm

https://www.wlrfm.com/2021/02/19/walsh-park-works-set-to-start-in-2022/

Looks impressive

It's such a pity they agreed to no concerts and floodlights.

blue note · 19-02-2021 5:15pm

Why no floodlights? Residents against it?

It's a pity. A Saturday night game there could be good.

I assume there'll be semi decent media facilities? As in tg4 wont have to put a camera onto scaffolding?

blacksuir · 19-02-2021 8:21pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

most if not all managers have this no nonsense, hard work ethic , it's a requirement ,but also a thinking brain when your team is most under pressure , again we got totally carried away by the second half performance of the KK match , in all honesty 3 big beatings of the same team last year , so Cahill really needs to wake up ,he had with the exception of Shane Bennett and possibly P Mahoney a really good squad ,but his lack of balls to make the really big selective decisions was his downfall , as it was with the previous managers ,

What exactly does Mahony add to the side from last year. 10-11 points a game - yes, but all but one or two will be from placed balls. Stephen Bennett will get that tally as well from placed balls within his range, and maybe four or five from play and even a goal every so often.

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