Terminator Werewolf - Game thread

Gabriel WW · 27-01-2021 03:29PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

The transmission has been received by a player.

Derry WW wrote: »

These are the prizes.

What do people think should be done with them?
I have missed all the chatter on the thread this morning.

The Terminator Shield - Its basically a munch protection. If a player gains this they can protect themselves or another player from munch the next day. It will NOT protect players from other deaths', only a wolf munch.

The Terminator Vote Scanner - If a player wins this, they can use it on tonight lynch only. The holder chooses a player and if a wolf votes for this player, the holder will receive word that a wolf has voted for their chosen player. Players will receive info before thread reopens at 10pm following lynch.

1x Gun

Derry WW wrote: »

I've made my choice - and now I need to go get lunch, I'll mull over what I am going to reveal on thread later.

Derry WW wrote: »

I haven't even walked away from the PC, and already regret it, but went with my gut. I don't like decisions under pressure.

i dont like that derry is already distancing himself from his choices. used time pressure and going with his gut. took you only 9 minutes to make your choice. you had an additional 21 mins.

Angus WW · 27-01-2021 03:33PM

You are being very scattergun, trying to implicate numerous others while giving little to no real reasoning in your posts

Emily - small bit of reasoning follows this

Gabriel WW wrote: »

if you're for for emily to be shot at i'll take the gun

Barbara and Doris next

Gabriel WW wrote: »

is this true?

if so, herself and doris need a lynching/shooting

Back on Emily again

Gabriel WW wrote: »

exactly right. me and you are on the same wave length.

one of your wolf buddies voted nigel and/or phil to protect you.

And now Derry

Gabriel WW wrote: »

i think derry is a wolf. using lunch as an excuse to buy time to decide how best to play these prizes

Anyone else you want to throw in there?

Brendan WW · 27-01-2021 03:33PM

Apologies in advance for the quote wall.

Emily WW wrote: »

Interesting cause my votes on you . Will explain later

Eva WW wrote: »

No offence taken! You could explain now though? Others might like to jump on me depending on your reasoning

Emily WW wrote: »

I started to look back over your posts and got distracted with some other things. Now that Nigel is dead and good they may not be so relevant. One is interesting though. Nigel was told he had 30 mins to make a selection of who to get bullets or it would be handed out randomly but yesterday Conor had an hour and a half to hand out lynch power to me. Not sure if it means anything, maybe BJ let Conor get back to thread before randing? Alternative is Conor was waiting to see how to play it. Would of been more suspect of Nigel to be honest had he not died in this one as he actually had a disagreement with Barbara on how to use a bullet that I was going to bring up but again it’s not relevant now.

I voted for you because I felt, like I said earlier you have engaged in some serious fence sitting at times. Today with Barbara you leap quickly to her defence. You can talk about mechanics but it read like somebody who had placed a kill. You defend her method, suggesting I over reacted and then later you yourself think she might need to be lynched (I can link post if you like, have to put kids to bed now) because of her erratic behavior. But then you go and vote for me. That’s inconsistent voting behavior.

But I’d voted for you because you again started playing both sides. Defending Nigel and then casting shade on him when he was looking dodgy for the chop.

Not sure how I feel now after that. If I can get time I will try and do a proper review of you.

Emily, how are you feeling about Eva this afternoon?

Tegan WW wrote: »

If nigel comes back as a villager, I am literally gonna demand that someone puts a bullet in you

Vernon WW wrote: »

Sure thing sweetcheeks.

Vernon not all concerned by tegan pushing for him - nobody seemed to really be interested in a Vernon lynch last night.

Tegan WW wrote: »

Shoot phil

and when he turns wolf

shoot vernon for LITERALLY the worst case on a villager ever

Tegan WW wrote: »

Unfortunately it wasnt me or vernon would already be dead

Tegan WW wrote: »

It gives me paws alright.....

How he goes from no lynch on night 1 to being so decisive on literally the flimsiest reason ever

I agree with tegans points here although Phil didn't turn out to be a wolf.

Jake WW wrote: »

Crap, I hate this. I still believe I'm right but I've changed my vote

I've gone no lynch because I have nothing else, I've been locked on Nigel. Still kind of am...

Vernon WW wrote: »

Jake if you think he's a wolf then you vote for the wolf. Why on earth wouldn't you?

Vernon WW wrote: »

If it wasn't Nigel I would've been voting for Babs. Although Nigel flipping village would put pause to that thought, at least until we see where her shot goes.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it goes to me but sure what can I do, I made the best worst decision I could with limited information. Nigel looked wolfy to me and I had a plausible theory on how he chose the recipients of the prizes. I stand by that.

Barbara WW wrote: »

It was piss poor logic. Didn't make a lick of sense.

Vernon WW wrote: »

I'm actually fine with this. Highly likely there's a wolf in the Nigel votes. It's not me so it must be one of the others. But yeah it makes sense to kill all 4 of us.

How do you know Babs is cleared village? Why are you so confident?

Mary WW wrote: »

Jake should definitely be looked at in the same regard as the 4 who actually voted for Nigel.

Vernon WW wrote: »

Out of the 4 on Nigel there's hardly 2 wolves is there? In order of wolfiest I would say Phil, Isla, Frank Vernon.

Derry WW wrote: »

Dont forget Jake who was part of the Lynch Nidge gang, but switched to No Lynch at the last minute.

Jake WW wrote: »

Yeah

This morning I was 100% that Nigel was wolf for leading the Lucy train, then Katie dropped in a mention of him and promptly got munched. It just all added up so much.

When he won the contest I didn't think it changed anything and talked myself into the idea he admitted it and picked Conor to gain credibility. It fit in my head, especially as it implicated Barbara who is just annoying (but I no longer think wolf). At the time I didn't feel there was much pushback from anyone except Nigel.

And I left a really detailed post on why I was picking him before logging off for a while and he just ignored it, I still don't understand why he did that.

When I came back I still believed he was a wolf, and his threats that I'd get shot rattled me but kind of confirmed my belief. In the end it was a few other players getting involved and fear of him actually being right that made me jump ship, but honestly I still believed he was wolf when I did.

I get how that looks but that's it. I can dig up my posts to back up all of that

Jake WW wrote: »

I get that - but I was so far down the Nigel rabbithole I couldn't vote for anyone else, I literally had no one else in mind

Jake's posting has a bad smell to me here

Fiona WW wrote: »

I’d say one of Nigel’s voters is the T1000 so losing a life was worth taking out Nigel’s bullet. Especially when they’ll morph to someone else and we’ve got to work from the beginning again.

Clodagh WW wrote: »

Stop having thoughts I agree with.

I agree that there's a very good chance that Vernon is T1000.

Eva WW wrote: »

I'm interested too, Steve actually said he had reasons to provide for his vote

Steve WW wrote: »

I will. But not right now

Did those reasons ever materialise Steve?

And I think Jake is one of the wolfy partners for jumping off the Nigel wagon at the last minute.
Steve, because he had 4 or 5 posts yesterday about watching to lynch a player who had just subbed in.
And Doris. Because something about the posting is off to me. And I keep mixing her up with Vernon...

Gabriel WW · 27-01-2021 03:39PM

Angus WW wrote: »

You are being very scattergun, trying to implicate numerous others while giving little to no real reasoning in your posts

Emily - small bit of reasoning follows this

Barbara and Doris next

Back on Emily again

And now Derry

Anyone else you want to throw in there?

you i suppose.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:40PM

I had a cunning plan to make the most of the vote tracker but then realised we have know way to know if the user is a wolf or not so it's totally useless.

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:41PM

Brendan WW wrote: »

Apologies in advance for the quote wall.
Emily, how are you feeling about Eva this afternoon?

I cannot get a proper read on Eva. She is actually defending me a lot, its very difficult to be objective about somebody sticking up for you. She is a solid player, very cute, has missed a few things I found odd given how on the ball she is (cant remember as I don't keep notes - I am sure this surprises nobody). Overall I am leaning neutral positive with the possibility they are pocketing me. The fact that Eva is so active means she is a helpful wolf or just a villager trying to see things from all angles (which would explain defense of Barbara yesterday and mixed comments about Nigel during day).

I want to try and maybe look a bit more into Mary and Tegan if I get the time. I feel there is good players behind these characters but I get the impression they get in and out keeping themselves noticed but not too much. Not sure on lower posters, but maybe we need to threaten them with bullets or lynch to get them going.

I would love to just not work for the next two days to give this a good shot. I was tired yesterday after my early morning trip to hospital so played poorly. I feel rested today, but Ive had client calls and do need to get some work done. I find it hard to balance. Two.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:42PM

I have to say, this is a tough one. The village, as far as I can tell, has absolutely no way of getting verified information. Very old school

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:44PM

Have to say, I am very surprised steve is the highest poster and surprised Derry is up there postwise. Does anybody else have reads or opinions on these two ? I am slightly suspect of Steve for his reasons for voting for me , it does make sense for a villager, but equally for a wolf, but I dont really recall too many incidents or discussions with those two that stick out.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:45PM

Tegan and Vernon are currently my top two picks for wolves.

Barbara...well I have my reasons for believing in Barbara but I am also concerned that I am being totally suckered.

I'm going to go and add to my notes on everyone for whatever good that will do.

Gabriel WW · 27-01-2021 03:45PM

re the vote scanner thing. derry absolutely needs to tell us who he gave that to.

that persons then must follow the on thread consensus about how to use it, to get must bang for our buck.

that person then needs to be lycnhed to verify that info...this is not necessary but may prove to be

Barbara WW · 27-01-2021 03:46PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

re the vote scanner thing. derry absolutely needs to tell us who he gave that to.

that persons then must follow the on thread consensus about how to use it, to get must bang for our buck.

that person then needs to be lycnhed to verify that info...this is not necessary but may prove to be

Why would anyone listen to village consensus?

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:46PM

Clodagh WW wrote: »

I have to say, this is a tough one. The village, as far as I can tell, has absolutely no way of getting verified information. Very old school

Personally, I think I have done more then enough for people to get an opinion of me, whether that's good or bad. We need to start getting reads on others.

Fiona was a high level poster, as was Lucy when she was munched so wolves arent going after low posters. Maybe its because wolves are hiding in the lower ones ?

Barbara WW · 27-01-2021 03:47PM

Lucy has been out of the games nearly 48 hours and there are still posters with less posts than her.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:48PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

re the vote scanner thing. derry absolutely needs to tell us who he gave that to.

that persons then must follow the on thread consensus about how to use it, to get must bang for our buck.

that person then needs to be lycnhed to verify that info...this is not necessary but may prove to be

The person with the scanner should absolutely NOT follow on thread consensus for where to use it.

IDIOT VILLAGERS: Use it on Clodagh

Wolves: Let's not vote for Clodagh so.

PS I consider myself an idiot villager.

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:49PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Lucy has been out of the games nearly 48 hours and there are still posters with less posts than her.

I am trying to just throw out some ideas for some to investigate, I feel a bit scattergun to be honest. Might take a step back to do my actual job!

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:50PM

Clodagh WW wrote: »

The person with the scanner should absolutely NOT follow on thread consensus for where to use it.

IDIOT VILLAGERS: Use it on Clodagh

Wolves: Let's not vote for Clodagh so.

PS I consider myself an idiot villager.

Or right, T-1000 throw your vote on, the rest of us will spread ours.

Gabriel WW · 27-01-2021 03:50PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Why would anyone listen to village consensus?

the scanner needs to be used on the player with the 1st/2nd/3rd most votes.

that way we have a pool of maybe 3/4 where there is at least 1 wolf.
or those ~3/4 players are cleared as village

used in any other way is near pointless and will point towards a wolf using the scanner

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:52PM

I'm getting frustrated...I'll apologise to anyone who may be offended by the idiot villagers comment. I'm really just talking about myself.

Regarding the scanner, Gabriel, the idea of lynching the person who has it is a possibility although it is a poisoned chalice of a prize so. I think it will have to depend on numbers.

Doris WW · 27-01-2021 03:52PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

the scanner needs to be used on the player with the 1st/2nd/3rd most votes.

that way we have a pool of maybe 3/4 where there is at least 1 wolf.
or those ~3/4 players are cleared as village

used in any other way is near pointless and will point towards a wolf using the scanner

So agree a pool of three lynch nominees?

Only problem is if a wolf has the scanner its pointless. We'd have to be all in and follow through and hope for the best.

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:53PM

Brendan WW wrote: »

Did those reasons ever materialise Steve?

Steve voted for me because Nigel gave him the scanner power and Nigel voted for me. So Steve voted for me because Nigel did, apparently. Ive said it before, this could be a village or wolf play. A wolf getting the scanner could make this up. With no wolves in contention, voting for me was safe enough.

Him putting the scanner on me afterwards plays no roll in his decision to vote for me. So either we believe he felt Nigel was good and was onto something about me or hes a wolf that had nothing to lose and easy excuse to vote for me. I think we need more then that to condemn a person.

Doris WW · 27-01-2021 03:53PM

If there's three villagers to be decided on I'm happy to be one of them up for lynch.

Conor WW · 27-01-2021 03:53PM

Emily WW wrote: »

Ah ok, so that actually means the Lynch was sort of wasted. Did you announce on thread you used the bullet ?

I did indeed.

Conor WW wrote: »

Frank you're number is up.

Vernon WW · 27-01-2021 03:54PM

Brendan WW wrote: »

I agree that there's a very good chance that Vernon is T1000.

It would be cool if that were true but unfortunately it's not. I've only one life to give and I've already said I'm not gonna fall out with anyone for voting for me tonight.

Barbara WW · 27-01-2021 03:54PM

Clodagh WW wrote: »

I'm getting frustrated...I'll apologise to anyone who may be offended by the idiot villagers comment. I'm really just talking about myself.

Regarding the scanner, Gabriel, the idea of lynching the person who has it is a possibility although it is a poisoned chalice of a prize so. I think it will have to depend on numbers.

No need to apologise...the village is full of idiots.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:56PM

In the interests of clarity I've PMd BeakerJoe with a question about the scanner. I will let you know when I receive my answer.

Barbara WW · 27-01-2021 03:56PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Lucy has been out of the games nearly 48 hours and there are still posters with less posts than her.

And just like that, along comes Little Miss 16 Posts.

Gabriel WW · 27-01-2021 03:56PM

Doris WW wrote: »

So agree a pool of three lynch nominees?

Only problem is if a wolf has the scanner its pointless. We'd have to be all in and follow through and hope for the best.

lets see where the votes are going this evening and we can make the call at 8.30pm or whatever who makes the most sense to be scanned.

if its someone with 4 votes..clear 4 villagers or have at least 25% chance of getting wolf

someone with 3 votes: clear 3 villagers or at least 33% chance of hitting wolf.

i think anyone with 2 or less votes should not be scanned.

but yes, the person with the scanner may be a wolf. thats why i said they will need to killed eventually unless they are cleared by other means.

Emily WW · 27-01-2021 03:57PM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

the scanner needs to be used on the player with the 1st/2nd/3rd most votes.

that way we have a pool of maybe 3/4 where there is at least 1 wolf.
or those ~3/4 players are cleared as village

used in any other way is near pointless and will point towards a wolf using the scanner

Well the scanner was used on me last night and nothing came of it and yet you still want to shoot me. You think killing me clears Steve and Eva, but steve used the scanner on me so killing me doesnt clear anybody whether I am good or bad. I dont get your thinking at all.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:57PM

Barbara WW wrote: »

No need to apologise...the village is full of idiots.

The fact that wolves haven't gone for you yet is a bit of a puzzle to me.

Clodagh WW · 27-01-2021 03:58PM

Emily WW wrote: »

Well the scanner was used on me last night and nothing came of it and yet you still want to shoot me. You think killing me clears Steve and Eva, but steve used the scanner on me so killing me doesnt clear anybody whether I am good or bad. I dont get your thinking at all.

You were tracked Emily, not scanned.

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