Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

Clonmel1000 · 21-01-2021 09:21AM

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Got married and moved to Canada

Thanks I didn’t know that. Is he completely finished with the show so? I have to say I find some of the journalists they have on quite good Dan McDonnell and a couple of the British guys are insightful and easy to listen too. Don’t really like David Meyler, Delaney is ok whilst unfortunately for me Giles has had his day and I don’t listen to his segment anymore.

deisedude · 21-01-2021 10:14AM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Thanks I didn’t know that. Is he completely finished with the show so? I have to say I find some of the journalists they have on quite good Dan McDonnell and a couple of the British guys are insightful and easy to listen too. Don’t really like David Meyler, Delaney is ok whilst unfortunately for me Giles has had his day and I don’t listen to his segment anymore.

I think Meyler and Delaney are both very interesting. You get the perspective of a recently retired ex-pro which work well with the journos.

The football panel they do on Saturdays with John Duggan, Johnny Ward, Dan McDonnell and one of Delaney, Meyler or Stephen Elliot is the best content Off the Ball produce all week

gourcuff · 21-01-2021 10:17AM

is it much of a competition between them and second captains anymore, or completely different spaces now with SC being on a paid for platform?

21-01-2021 11:24AM

deisedude wrote: »

I think Meyler and Delaney are both very interesting. You get the perspective of a recently retired ex-pro which work well with the journos.

The football panel they do on Saturdays with John Duggan, Johnny Ward, Dan McDonnell and one of Delaney, Meyler or Stephen Elliot is the best content Off the Ball produce all week

Delaney is brilliant if you get him on the right subject. Great insights into players he has played with (talked about playing with Nicky Barmby at Hull a few days ago) and what it's like to be a pro. Needs the right questions. He did a piece with Joe during the lockdown on playing in the championship and what it's like to play twice a week towards the end of the season and it was some of the most insightful stuff I've heard on the show in an age.

I enjoy the Saturday Football show too, though I don't think Elliot contributes much other than banalities.

Brock Turnpike · 21-01-2021 11:29AM

deisedude wrote: »

I think Meyler and Delaney are both very interesting. You get the perspective of a recently retired ex-pro which work well with the journos.

The football panel they do on Saturdays with John Duggan, Johnny Ward, Dan McDonnell and one of Delaney, Meyler or Stephen Elliot is the best content Off the Ball produce all week

Really? I have listened occasionally in the car but I have to say I find Ward and Duggan awful. Ward just comes across as clueless about football. Duggan seems like a complete bandwagoner fan. Not really a football fan. Delaney and McDonnell (on certain topics) are good.

rino87 · 21-01-2021 11:51AM

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Really? I have listened occasionally in the car but I have to say I find Ward and Duggan awful. Ward just comes across as clueless about football. Duggan seems like a complete bandwagoner fan. Not really a football fan. Delaney and McDonnell (on certain topics) are good.

Yeah it was a much better slot when they had Nathan in doing the Saturdays

Clonmel1000 · 26-01-2021 05:11PM

What do ye reckon of Pat Nevin as a pundit lads? Comes across a bit smug at times to me find it hard to warm to him maybe I’m being harsh.

Did you smash it · 26-01-2021 05:13PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

What do ye reckon of Pat Nevin as a pundit lads? Comes across a bit smug at times to me find it hard to warm to him maybe I’m being harsh.

There’s a thread on boards called people who annoy you but you can’t say why. He’d fall into that category. He’s grand I suppose. I just don’t value his input and find him a bit of a pain but not sure why.

RugbyLover123 · 26-01-2021 05:37PM

What’s the story with Kenny? Haven’t heard him on in a while

Tell me how · 26-01-2021 06:27PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

What do ye reckon of Pat Nevin as a pundit lads? Comes across a bit smug at times to me find it hard to warm to him maybe I’m being harsh.

Think he isn't harsh enough on calling out poor performance, or maybe he just finds a positive angle or says it with a cheerful voice but for some reason he doesn't click with me either.

I'm not a big fan of Brian O'Driscolls punditry for similar reasons.

redbuck · 26-01-2021 08:18PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

What do ye reckon of Pat Nevin as a pundit lads? Comes across a bit smug at times to me find it hard to warm to him maybe I’m being harsh.

I think he's great.

generalgerry · 26-01-2021 08:45PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

What do ye reckon of Pat Nevin as a pundit lads? Comes across a bit smug at times to me find it hard to warm to him maybe I’m being harsh.

He's too hard to understand to be on the damned show.

Billy Ocean · 26-01-2021 09:52PM

redbuck wrote: »

I think he's great.

i enjoy him, like Andy Dunne on the rugby too

Felexicon · 26-01-2021 11:03PM

The bit with Niall Moyna this evening was excellent

Jayesdiem · 29-01-2021 07:59PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Think he isn't harsh enough on calling out poor performance, or maybe he just finds a positive angle or says it with a cheerful voice but for some reason he doesn't click with me either.

I'm not a big fan of Brian O'Driscolls punditry for similar reasons.

I was impressed with BOD stating the other day how sh1tty he felt living under lockdown. It made a fresh change from the Covid zealots who love to pretend that it’s all no bother at all or, worse, the ones that actually enjoy it. As a public figure, that honesty was refreshing.

generalgerry · 29-01-2021 10:13PM

Felexicon wrote: »

The bit with Niall Moyna this evening was excellent

Yeah I thought he was good as well. If you are trying to sell a message you have to have passion, and to be fair to him he always comes across as passionate about what he is saying.

rrs · 31-01-2021 01:05PM

Does Johnny Ward be on Off the ball much these days? I see he's no longer on Twitter.

Did you smash it · 31-01-2021 01:09PM

rrs wrote: »

Does Johnny Ward be on Off the ball much these days? I see he's no longer on Twitter.

On yesterday. One of his last acts on Twitter was to suggest Ireland should completely open the pubs and restaurants for Christmas and leave it up to people to decide whether to go or not. A sentiment that didn’t age well so perhaps he’s better off gone. Twitter didn’t suit his personality.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 31-01-2021 01:39PM

rrs wrote:

Does Johnny Ward be on Off the ball much these days? I see he's no longer on Twitter.

Seems to only do Racing on Friday and Soccer on Saturday now

dr.kenneth noisewater · 31-01-2021 01:40PM

This gave me a laugh yesterday, bit harsh

https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1355271614137593857?s=19

rrs · 31-01-2021 02:05PM

Did you smash it wrote: »

On yesterday. One of his last acts on Twitter was to suggest Ireland should completely open the pubs and restaurants for Christmas and leave it up to people to decide whether to go or not. A sentiment that didn’t age well so perhaps he’s better off gone. Twitter didn’t suit his personality.

He use to come out with some daft statements on Twitter. It was hard to know was he being serious or not.

I remember after Dundalks Europa League group was finished. He said its neither here nor there but Shamrock Rovers and Bohemians would have picked up points in the group. Dundalk had beaten Bohemians 4 -1 in the Cup a few weeks before that.

Billy Ocean · 31-01-2021 04:01PM

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

This gave me a laugh yesterday, bit harsh

https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1355271614137593857?s=19

Enjoy the GAA hour but jeez Wooly is some clown on Twitter at times, talks about social media been toxic and comes out with this stuff and bickers with Keiron Cunningham

rrs · 31-01-2021 04:10PM

It's more bullying behaviour from Parkinson. He always has a smart remark if someone disagrees with him on Twitter.

31-01-2021 05:17PM

nialler1978 wrote: »

That's essentially what Twitter is in a nutshell, smart remarks, particularly if you disagree with someone or if they disagree with you. Not sure qualifies him as fitting into the bullying bracket, but while we are on the topic, Richie McCormack certainly fits into the category at times but includes hissy fits and temper tantrums with it if you aren't fully on board with whatever woke agenda he is pushing on any given day.

Sounds a lot like Boards.ie too! I might not agree with Parkinson on much, but Richie McCormack is a pain in the arse. He's always just on the wrong side of sanctimonious. His casual popular references always come across as rehearsed and painful to listen to, and always designed to make him look smarter than he is. By the sounds of it, a few of his colleagues find him hard to stomach too.

statesaver · 31-01-2021 06:37PM

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

This gave me a laugh yesterday, bit harsh

https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1355271614137593857?s=19

Hard to disagree.

Tell me how · 31-01-2021 06:53PM

Billy Ocean wrote: »

Enjoy the GAA hour but jeez Wooly is some clown on Twitter at times, talks about social media been toxic and comes out with this stuff and bickers with Keiron Cunningham

No doubt if he eventually struggles to get guests or listeners to the podcast, he'll blame cancel culture or something instead of accepting people eventually copped on that he was a bit of a dose. He didn't really gain anything by this or referring to Kieran Cunningham as he does only to make people grimace a bit as they watch it.

Ewan McKenna and himself don't do themselves any favours in making people want to work with them.

31-01-2021 07:07PM

Tell me how wrote: »

No doubt if he eventually struggles to get guests or listeners to the podcast, he'll blame cancel culture or something instead of accepting people eventually copped on that he was a bit of a dose. He didn't really gain anything by this or referring to Kieran Cunningham as he does only to make people grimace a bit as they watch it.

Ewan McKenna and himself don't do themselves any favours in making people want to work with them.

What happened with Kieran Cunningham? I must have missed that.

generalgerry · 31-01-2021 07:28PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Ewan McKenna and himself don't do themselves any favours in making people want to work with them.

I think Ewan McKenna and Colm Parkinson bring more of a real life element to the sports coverage. OTB is far too polite and politically correct, painfully so. McKenna and Parkinson are at least to come forward with a very unpopular opinion and back it to the hilt. I don't agree with either of them on all subjects, but they are certainly entertaining.

Having said that the remark about Richie McCormack is a bit uncalled for. If there had been some ongoing argument on line maybe it might be justified, but this is completely without provocation I think? And I wouldn't be a fan of McCormack by any means.

generalgerry · 31-01-2021 07:30PM

Did you smash it wrote: »

On yesterday. One of his last acts on Twitter was to suggest Ireland should completely open the pubs and restaurants for Christmas and leave it up to people to decide whether to go or not.

I remember Richie McCormack making some sarcastic, patronising remark in response to that Tweet.

Billy Ocean · 31-01-2021 07:57PM

generalgerry wrote: »

I think Ewan McKenna and Colm Parkinson bring more of a real life element to the sports coverage. OTB is far too polite and politically correct, painfully so. McKenna and Parkinson are at least to come forward with a very unpopular opinion and back it to the hilt. I don't agree with either of them on all subjects, but they are certainly entertaining.

Having said that the remark about Richie McCormack is a bit uncalled for. If there had been some ongoing argument on line maybe it might be justified, but this is completely without provocation I think? And I wouldn't be a fan of McCormack by any means.

I think McKenna is a vile human being myself, I actually agree with him on the Dublin stuff to a large extent and his opinions on McGregor but the absolutely rancid stuff he comes out with superseeds that.

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