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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    New Zealand doesnt even need a vaccine.

    They will though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    I think in 5 weeks they'll be looking for people to give the vaccine too. Everyone I talk to say,, I DON'T WANT IT, NO WAY.

    From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,848 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.

    OscarMIlde PWNS BorneTobyWilde:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Not saying there wasn't a party but the how could you know there was 30 people there by a sound clip. A brief one top.

    True story, I ate my dad (who is high risk) for having people over in the house when I phoned him the other night, only to learn he was on his own and it was the telly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    From your Trump posting history you seem to move in fairly contrarian circles. Most people I know are hoping to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Some people are slightly concerned since the approval process was so quick, but seem a bit more reassured when I explain how each vaccine works and what potential risks and benefits there may be. At the end of the day I think there seems to be a greater risk of complications from Covid than from the vaccines.

    Everyone I know are waiting and willing to queue for hours for it
    When its my turn I will be in that queue and delighted to be in it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I think in 5 weeks they'll be looking for people to give the vaccine too. Everyone I talk to say,, I DON'T WANT IT, NO WAY.

    If this is anything like your prediction that Trump would definitely get a second term and the election was stolen, then it's safe to say this is a load of nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

    Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    True story, I ate my dad....

    Really was not sure where that post was going when I started to read it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,420 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.

    Yes he has no idea how they got the virus.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.


    why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?

    I think the point is that patients may not have been entirely truthful about social contacts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    why have they been admitted to hospital though if not sick?

    Did I say they weren’t sick? I questioned the claim Lambert made as to how they contracted the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

    That is blind irresponsible speculation. It could well turn out to be true. Doesn't change the fact how irresponsible making such a statement is. Humans are unreliable narrators of their own lives. Let's find out objectively before scaring people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Did I say they weren’t sick? I questioned the claim Lambert made as to how they contracted the virus.


    dude i was just asking - i wasnt sure so i asked-i was not being sarcastic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Stheno wrote: »
    I think the point is that patients may not have been entirely truthful about social contacts


    i see. i'm just jumping in here. i've been late to the partay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Really was not sure where that post was going when I started to read it!

    The sequel to the Rick Moranis cult 80s hit ' Honey, I ate the parents',


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Jack lambert has just been on the radio and mentioned that he has patients in hospital who are "very low risk", doing nothing wrong. He said he has patients he believes got he virus when food was delivered to their homes and believes the virus is now more transmissible via surfaces than it has been.

    Shouldn't be allowed near the airwaves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    niallo27 wrote: »
    And it's generally true, the people still in full-time employment have no problem in shutting down the economy at the expense of other peoples jobs. The idea of we are all in this together is simply not true.

    I noticed that trend too. I am very lucky to be able to work from home in an industry that is Covid proof. However it’s not that many years ago that I was desperately struggling trying to get by to support myself and my child. Many people in my community are not as lucky. I have spent many sleepless nights wide awake because of the stress and worry of not being financially secure. I can’t forget those days and I can’t forget that there are thousands of people out there struggling to get by. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

    No matter what happens in life it’s always the poor that carry the biggest burden. Everything hits the poor harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    mohawk wrote: »
    I noticed that trend too. I am very lucky to be able to work from home in an industry that is Covid proof. However it’s not that many years ago that I was desperately struggling trying to get by to support myself and my child. Many people in my community are not as lucky. I have spent many sleepless nights wide awake because of the stress and worry of not being financially secure. I can’t forget those days and I can’t forget that there are thousands of people out there struggling to get by. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

    No matter what happens in life it’s always the poor that carry the biggest burden. Everything hits the poor harder.

    Put government officials and NPHET on a reduced "solidarity" wage like they did in New Zealand and watch how much quicker restrictions get lifted.

    Of course that wouldn't happen here in a million years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Sorry but Lambert is repeating what his patients told him . He has no evidence to suggest the virus is more transmissible via surfaces and it’s frankly very f**king irresponsible of him to suggest so.

    Lambert is very inconsistent on his views with the virus.


    "Christmas is going to have a huge amount of socialising in the country... it's going to happen in home settings, as of course it should. We want it to happen in the 7,000 pubs across the country which will provide safe, controlled environments for people to socialise."


    https://www.newstalk.com/news/we-should-absolutely-not-delay-christmas-because-of-covid-19-jack-lambert-1104484


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    mohawk wrote: »
    I noticed that trend too. I am very lucky to be able to work from home in an industry that is Covid proof. However it’s not that many years ago that I was desperately struggling trying to get by to support myself and my child. Many people in my community are not as lucky. I have spent many sleepless nights wide awake because of the stress and worry of not being financially secure. I can’t forget those days and I can’t forget that there are thousands of people out there struggling to get by. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

    No matter what happens in life it’s always the poor that carry the biggest burden. Everything hits the poor harder.


    i can only speak from my experience but my circle of friends and family that i know the majority work from home and definitely do not want to be on lockdown. we all follow restrictions to the T but definitely not happy to be on lockdown. anyone happy to be on lockdown needs their head examined lol because they were obviously not happy to be in society in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Really was not sure where that post was going when I started to read it!

    You should really work on your reading speed so :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    i can only speak from my experience but my circle of friends and family that i know the majority work from home and definitely do not want to be on lockdown. we all follow restrictions to the T but definitely not happy to be on lockdown. anyone happy to be on lockdown needs their head examined lol because they were obviously not happy to be in society in the first place.

    No one wants a lockdown. No one likes lockdown. It is however a lot easier to accept the lockdowns as being important for the common good when you are not financially impacted.

    Everyone thinks about their abilitiy to feed themselves and their family and provide shelter before they consider the societal good.

    Personally I still work, I don't have a wife or kids and my parents are both high risk individuals (my mother over 65 with a high risk condition and my father just under 65 with multiple high risk conditions). My father is waiting for elective procedures that have an impact on his quality of life.

    So for me my situation gives me a tendancy is to be pro lockdown and restrictions. Someone else would say I'm out of work and the bank is threatening to take my house and its hard to feed the kids. I want my job back. If your parents get covid and die or the hospital is stressed enough that their comorbidities kill them and they can't be treated who cares. I need to feed my kids.

    What I mean is that everyone thinks their opinion is right and justified but most are giving into the stress put on them personally and thinking about what fits their situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    No one wants a lockdown. No one likes lockdown. It is however a lot easier to accept the lockdowns as being important for the common good when you are not financially impacted.

    Everyone thinks about their abilitiy to feed themselves and their family and provide shelter before they consider the societal good.

    Personally I still work, I don't have a wife or kids and my parents are both high risk individuals (my mother over 65 with a high risk condition and my father just under 65 with multiple high risk conditions). My father is waiting for elective procedures that have an impact on his quality of life.

    So for me my situation gives me a tendancy is to be pro lockdown and restrictions. Someone else would say I'm out of work and the bank is threatening to take my house and its hard to feed the kids. I want my job back. If your parents get covid and die or the hospital is stressed enough that their comorbidities kill them and they can't be treated who cares. I need to feed my kids.

    What I mean is that everyone thinks their opinion is right and justified but most are giving into the stress put on them personally and thinking about what fits their situation.


    I hear you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    No one wants a lockdown. No one likes lockdown. It is however a lot easier to accept the lockdowns as being important for the common good when you are not financially impacted.

    Everyone thinks about their abilitiy to feed themselves and their family and provide shelter before they consider the societal good.

    Personally I still work, I don't have a wife or kids and my parents are both high risk individuals (my mother over 65 with a high risk condition and my father just under 65 with multiple high risk conditions). My father is waiting for elective procedures that have an impact on his quality of life.

    So for me my situation gives me a tendancy is to be pro lockdown and restrictions. Someone else would say I'm out of work and the bank is threatening to take my house and its hard to feed the kids. I want my job back. If your parents get covid and die or the hospital is stressed enough that their comorbidities kill them and they can't be treated who cares. I need to feed my kids.

    What I mean is that everyone thinks their opinion is right and justified but most are giving into the stress put on them personally and thinking about what fits their situation.

    Why would you word it like that, that people just want their jobs back and don't care who dies. Your proving the exact point we are making about how we are not in this together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Beyond sick of this now.

    This is not living.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


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    Cases in Israel plummeting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Beyond sick of this now.

    This is not living.


    Ask all those who have had relatives die of covid if this is living or not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Beyond sick of this now.

    This is not living.


    We will get through this. and when its over - we will LIVE and appreciate life more than we ever have and will never take anything for granted again.



    For now, take it day by day and:


    - Watch loads of travel vloggers on youtube. Thats what I am doing - so I am planning lots of great adventures for myself when I can travel again.


    - A walk does wonders although I admit it could be days and I forget to get fresh air. When I do I feel massively better.


    - And cooking - cook loads of good food- makes you feel good too.


    - and Books - you can travel to a million different worlds from the comfort of your own home.


    - writing helps.

    - and MUSIC - seriously a good song is just the best medicine.


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