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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8732
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Did Astrazeneca state how many doses will be missing from the early deliveries?


  • #8733
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    majcos wrote: »
    HSE operations report 22/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1846 - decrease from 1923.
    8 hospitals with over 100 cases.

    ICU confirmed Covid cases as of 6.30pm 215 - increase from 211.
    5 deaths in ICU 24 hours up to 8am.
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 137 as of 6.30pm - increase from 135.

    Available ICU beds 28 as of 6.30pm.
    12 ICUs with no available beds.
    Total open and staffed ICU beds 345.

    That's a welcomed decrease in Hospital figures (ICU excluded).
    It's a substantial drop, hopefully we get another big drop tomorrow before the discharges slow
    I noticed discharges this week started high on Tuesday but got lower as the week went on. It ties up with a trend previously when hospital figures were dropping, discharge figures reduced over the week.


  • #8734
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    That's a welcomed decrease in Hospital figures (ICU excluded).
    It's a substantial drop, hopefully we get another big drop tomorrow before the discharges slow
    I noticed discharges this week started high on Tuesday but got lower as the week went on. It ties up with a trend previously when hospital figures were dropping, discharge figures reduced over the week.
    Discharges tend to be much lower on Saturdays and Sundays so I would not be overly concerned if see some increase again in 8pm numbers tomorrow and Sunday. Hopefully it will come down again on Monday evening although more admissions happen on Mondays too.


  • #8735
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The ladies story on late late show is so sad. Crying her eyes out.

    Watched late late last week, enough misery for the next decade, Netfix/prime Zombie movies for Fridays from now on


  • #8736
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    majcos wrote: »
    Discharges tend to be much lower on Saturdays and Sundays so I would not be overly concerned if see some increase again in 8pm numbers tomorrow and Sunday. Hopefully it will come down again on Monday evening although more admissions happen on Mondays too.

    Yeah we've all be though the figures before, hospitals don't discharge at the same rate over the weekend. Like cases increasing on Wednesdays due to GP's being closed for referrals over the weekend etc...

    I think it's going to be nice for HCW's when they arrive into work the next day and they have less Covid patients than the previous day. Gives them some hope.
    Has to be so demoralizing arriving and having more patients than the previous day, like swimming against the tide.


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  • #8737
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Did Astrazeneca state how many doses will be missing from the early deliveries?

    50 million. Delivering 30ish of a promised 80.


  • #8738
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    majcos wrote: »
    HSE operations report 22/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1846

    A good decrease from Monday when it was 2020 hospitalised.


  • #8739
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Talking on Newsnight about the new varient in Liverpool
    Similar to the Brazil and SA varient. But wasnt imported . I'm starting to think that no matter what we do. Even if we stop others coming into the country it seems very possible that as time goes by it is likely we would have our own mutations.


  • #8740
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey


  • #8741
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey

    Why doesn't he rent a car?


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  • #8742
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    Why doesn't he rent a car?

    He won't be isolating for two weeks if you collect him!


  • #8743
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey

    I think it's better if they are collected than public transport so can't see how you could be stopped.


  • #8744
    DrSpongeBobz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭DrSpongeBobz


    Man this year going to be worse than last year. Really scary now.


  • #8745
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Talking on Newsnight about the new varient in Liverpool
    Similar to the Brazil and SA varient. But wasnt imported . I'm starting to think that no matter what we do. Even if we stop others coming into the country it seems very possible that as time goes by it is likely we would have our own mutations.

    Variants are nothing new. They will happen. Some will be meaningless. Others won't be. Those latter ones are the only ones we need to be concerned with. These will be a minority. They just could end up being very significant.


  • #8746
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Waves are caused by lockdowns. It would be a continuous increase in infections and deaths etc if there was no lockdown.
    On the plus side that would mean herd immunity is reached quicker- as long as the virus didn’t mutate quick enough to negate any immunity gained in the population.
    On the negative side, ya know, deaths and cases etc.

    1 in 8 in the Netherlands probably had Covid.

    Probably a similar number in Ireland by now.

    One in eight people in the Netherlands could have Covid-19 antibodies as a result of having had the infection, but that does not mean that they should join the back of the vaccine queue to save on scarce vaccines, experts have said.
    Read more at DutchNews.nl:
    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/01/2-3-million-people-have-covid-antibodies-blood-bank-probe-shows/


  • #8747
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    Why doesn't he rent a car?

    He’s moving home and there’s no car rental company local so he’s still have to drop the car somewhere and be collected


  • #8748
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey

    Can't see why you couldn't. It's the safest thing for everyone - except you. You and your brother would both need to self isolate afterwards.

    Is his flight into Ireland essential though?


  • #8749
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    He won't be isolating for two weeks if you collect him!

    Same surely applies if he gets public transport though


  • #8750
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    DrSpongeBobz wrote: »
    Man this year going to be worse than last year. Really scary now.

    Not liking a lot of the lack of action by governments tbh. Iv'e heard of several very healthy young people in the last week get extremely sick with this virus with two admitted to hospital.

    I do still wonder if we are being told the full story about how serious these new variants are.


  • #8751
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey


    Can her drive? He could rent a car.


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  • #8752
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    He won't be isolating for two weeks if you collect him!

    One of them will have a recent PCR test, it won't be the driver


  • #8753
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Same surely applies if he gets public transport though

    Two people drive up in two cars. He drives one home, you drive the other home with the other person. Not really self isolation if he comes into contact with others.


  • #8754
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Not liking a lot of the lack of action by governments tbh. Iv'e heard of several very healthy young people in the last week get extremely sick with this virus with two admitted to hospital.

    I do still wonder if we are being told the full story about how serious these new variants are.

    Yeah. Seen in sky news that clip of Hancock saying the vaccine could be half as effective for the SA varient. Saying the wouldn't say it publicly.


  • #8755
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    Two people drive up in two cars. He drives one home, you drive the other home with the other person. Not really self isolation if he comes into contact with others.

    If he has a negative PCR test does he still have to self isolate.


  • #8756
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    Two people drive up in two cars. He drives one home, you drive the other home with the other person. Not really self isolation if he comes into contact with others.

    He only has a provisional license and isn’t insured on anything but that could potentially been an option I hadn’t thought of if we can get him names on something


  • #8757
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    One of them will have a recent PCR test, it won't be the driver

    Single PCR doesn't prove anything. He'd need one before travel. Self isolate on arrival. After about 5-7 days get a second PCR here. If undetected all this shows is that he very likely didn't import an infection into the country. Still gotta self isolate for the 14 days regardless.


  • #8758
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    If he has a negative PCR test does he still have to self isolate.

    Yes


  • #8759
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    And the UK wonder why they have it so bad

    https://twitter.com/PeterWestmacott/status/1352658172037787649


  • #8760
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Not liking a lot of the lack of action by governments tbh. Iv'e heard of several very healthy young people in the last week get extremely sick with this virus with two admitted to hospital.

    I do still wonder if we are being told the full story about how serious these new variants are.

    There has been plenty young and healthy people hospitalized since last March, that hasn't changed. What's changed is the sheer number of cases now recently.
    In absolute numbers, yes more young people have been hospitalized (as has all age range), but as a % of cases, the hospitalization rate is less than last March (down to better testing)

    Or you can conclude the new variants are less severe (more cases, less hospitalization as a %) CFR rate lower also, can we conclude the new variants are less lethal?
    Those statements are both factual but false.
    The media would be as incorrect stating the above as the basis of those statements is the very same as the statements they are making now.


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  • #8761
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    And the UK wonder why they have it so bad

    https://twitter.com/PeterWestmacott/status/1352658172037787649

    South Africans and Brazilians arriving as ya know that's all the rage now.


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