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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8642
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Troll?

    Might seem a stupid question.....but surely paper masks are better than cloth ones?

    You never see anyone from a hospiteal etc wearing a cloth one,paper only


  • #8643
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    EU leaders have been told two of the new variants of Covid 19 – the Brazilian and South African strains – may be vaccine resistant. It is understood the UK variant can be dealt with by the vaccines. In response the Taoiseach has said Ireland will do five times more tests on the genetic make-up of new Covid-19 strains

    The Independent
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8644
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Seven day average is 2538 cases per day. Just 12 days ago the average was 6539.


  • #8645
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    froog wrote: »
    the WHO should make themselves useful and start forcefully and very publicly responding to countries going on solo runs with "interpretations" of limited datasets. there's enough bloody misery around right now without the likes of boris and his team of ghouls playing games of smoke and mirrors.

    Its not lies.

    Other countries have reported the same stuff.
    A study by South African scientists into the new coronavirus variant driving a resurgence of cases in the country raises concern about the efficacy of vaccines and a new class of therapies.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-20/south-african-study-into-new-virus-strain-raises-vaccine-fears


  • #8646
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    froog wrote: »
    the WHO should make themselves useful and start forcefully and very publicly responding to countries going on solo runs with "interpretations" of limited datasets. there's enough bloody misery around right now without the likes of boris and his team of ghouls playing games of smoke and mirrors.


    The WHO can't. In fact if there is a WHO rep speaking in an interview right now they would have to give a very diplomatic answer that doesn't contradict the UK until there is an established position internationally that mandates them doing so. Simply put, they cannot contradict a recognised sovereign UN nation until other nations agencies explicitly do or request guidance from the WHO.


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  • #8647
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Might seem a stupid question.....but surely paper masks are better than cloth ones?

    You never see anyone from a hospiteal etc wearing a cloth one,paper only

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0121/1191082-coronavirus-global/

    France moving away from fabric masks.


  • #8648
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Its not lies.

    Other countries have reported the same stuff.



    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-20/south-african-study-into-new-virus-strain-raises-vaccine-fears
    Yeah there's some data out there but nothing definitive yet.


  • #8649
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    EU leaders have been told two of the new variants of Covid 19 – the Brazilian and South African strains – may be vaccine resistant. It is understood the UK variant can be dealt with by the vaccines. In response the Taoiseach has said Ireland will do five times more tests on the genetic make-up of new Covid-19 strains

    The Independent

    But Boris is making it up to save his own skin or something :rolleyes:


  • #8650
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0121/1191082-coronavirus-global/

    France moving away from fabric masks.
    The French could do with moving away from each other!


  • #8651
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Its not lies.

    Other countries have reported the same stuff.



    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-20/south-african-study-into-new-virus-strain-raises-vaccine-fears

    It's a single study. Science is not built from one piece of the jigsaw. Wait for more studies and analysis of these studies.

    You're also being inaccurate saying other countries have reported this stuff. They haven't. All they've done is acknowledge the existence of the SA study. No other commentary because it's too soon.


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  • #8652
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Given we are in lockdown since x mas eve where is all the cases coming from?
    Or are nursing homes riddled again with it like last spring?


  • #8653
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0121/1191082-coronavirus-global/

    France moving away from fabric masks.

    Its what i suspected....didnt make sense to me (plus i dislike the cloth ones anyway!)


  • #8654
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Be right back


    RIP to the 52 that died.


  • #8655
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    C__MC wrote: »
    Given we are in lockdown since x mas eve where is all the cases coming from?
    Or are nursing homes riddled again with it like last spring?

    Infections are preseeded trains of transmission. The links in the chains are being broken. It just takes a considerable amount of time for numbers to fall. Longer still for the load on the healthcare system to fall.


  • #8656
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    C__MC wrote: »
    Given we are in lockdown since x mas eve where is all the cases coming from?
    Or are nursing homes riddled again with it like last spring?
    Still largely households, some nursing homes have been hit badly though.


  • #8657
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The WHO can't. In fact if there is a WHO rep speaking in an interview right now they would have to give a very diplomatic answer that doesn't contradict the UK until there is an established position internationally that mandates them doing so. Simply put, they cannot contradict a recognised sovereign UN nation until other nations agencies explicitly do or request guidance from the WHO.

    wow that sounds bonkers.


  • #8658
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Troll?

    There are so many of them. The 'do research' brigade, yet never reference their statements.


  • #8659
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    froog wrote: »
    wow that sounds bonkers.
    That's the world of high level diplomacy, medical equivalent of the UN!


  • #8660
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    YFlyer wrote: »
    There are so many of them. The 'do research' brigade, yet never reference their statements.

    The do research thing always makes me laugh. And 'look at the data' lol


  • #8661
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    EU leaders have been told two of the new variants of Covid 19 – the Brazilian and South African strains – may be vaccine resistant. t

    To all the vaccines?:eek:


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  • #8662
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    froog wrote: »
    wow that sounds bonkers.

    They have no real power. They even have to rely fully on nation states data and reporting. If Ireland sent them horseht data they'd have to accept it.

    Their name helps make them an easy scapegoat.


  • #8663
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Cases seem to be a few hundred more than swabs every day now. Any reason why?


  • #8664
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #8665
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Jesus the media are wetting themselves over the possibility the new variants are more dangerous and vaccines won't work with them.


  • #8666
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Cases seem to be a few hundred more than swabs every day now. Any reason why?

    Just a lag effect when swabs are falling quickly. It takes time to work through the swabs and decide if they are cases or not. So case reporting comes later than swab reporting.


  • #8667
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,044 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    To all the vaccines?:eek:
    Nothing like that has been said. Some vaccines may not work as well. MAY. And they can be tweaked if required so that they will work.


  • #8668
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The do research thing always makes me laugh. And 'look at the data' lol

    Or they may add a screenshot of some statement instead of given the link.


  • #8669
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    My head is spinning with all the bad news. I can’t keep track of all the negative stories!

    Vaccine efficacy lower than hoped, vaccine resistant strains, higher mortality in new strains, vaccine shortages, restrictions for another 18 months,

    Jesus ****ing christ.

    I need to go on a media blackout for a while.


  • #8670
    Qwertyminger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Qwertyminger


    seamus wrote: »
    Edit: Beaten to it.

    Good numbers today.

    Interestingly yesterday's swabs got revised too, so yesterday's positivity rate was 9.99%.

    Decline in swabs is staying solid. Down 35% week-on-week. Translates to a halving every two weeks, an R0 of about 0.5.
    I was lurking early last week and I'm sure I saw someone with your name and profile image say that we'd see a significant drop in the numbers by last Friday. I basically figured at that moment that everything else posted after that incredibly wrong prediction could be treated as well-intended optimism but ultimately, garbage.

    Numbers still in the 2000s, it's going to be weeks before we get out of this pattern. You have to remember that for every 2000 cases that's another 2000 people out of work, potentially after giving it to another swathe of people, which is another huge cohort who are infected and potentially spreading.

    It's a complete mess we're in and the end is a long ways off. The HPSC data is so unclear now that it's obvious they don't want us being able to analyse the figures without having to solve a lament configuration to get to them.

    There's evidence of a higher mortality rate with the new strain now. We're far from out of the woods, I find it a waste of energy trying to get enthused about things like the positivity rate being an average of 10% when the R0 is still 0.5 - 0.8 at a minimum with daily cases in the thousands.

    Now I'm going to go and video call my friends so we can get wasted and make idiots of ourselves like in the days of yore.
    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    My head is spinning with all the bad news. I can’t keep track of all the negative stories!

    Vaccine efficacy lower than hoped, vaccine resistant strains, higher mortality in new strains, vaccine shortages, restrictions for another 18 months,

    Jesus ****ing christ.

    I need to go on a media blackout for a while.
    Go into the tunnel with Norma Foley and Josepha Madigan.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/minister-urged-by-government-tds-to-enter-media-blackout-on-reopening-special-schools-1.4464685


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  • #8671
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    My head is spinning with all the bad news. I can’t keep track of all the negative stories!

    Vaccine efficacy lower than hoped, vaccine resistant strains, higher mortality in new strains, vaccine shortages, restrictions for another 18 months,

    Jesus ****ing christ.

    I need to go on a media blackout for a while.

    Don’t watch the late late


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