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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8582
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    Arghus wrote: »
    Feels like the mood music from Europe has changed over the last couple of days. Talk of travel restrictions between states and the phrase "zero Covid" has been flown around a bit in the media. Even over here there's talk of a "two island solution"

    The plates are shifting lads.

    Seem to be settling on PCR testing prior to travel and potentially a ban on non EU travellers/mandatory quarantine for those who arrive without a negative test. Level heads prevailing although I do agree with this somewhat increased level of restrictions for the next few months to give some breathing space to get the vaccine rolled out.

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/22/eu-travel-bans-bloc-leaders-agree-to-keep-borders-open-for-now


  • #8583
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Preliminary stage but more crap news:
    "Boris Johnson said: "In addition to spreading more quickly it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant, the variant that was first identified in London and the south east, may be associated with a higher degree of mortality."

    I read 62% of cases here are of the UK variant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55768627

    I wonder if they have suspected this for a while, hence the unprecedented vaccination campaign in the UK amongst the most vulnerable groups.


  • #8584
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Does anyone know if the PUP is still dropping down to 203 in Feb? my site is still shut.


  • #8585
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    2075 positive swabs, 8.8% positivity on 23,581 tests
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8586
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the PUP is still dropping down to 203 in Feb? my site is still shut.

    Nah 31st of March is the new date at existing rates as it stands


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  • #8587
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Christ it just doesn't stop ..

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0122/1191331-covid-eu-variants-concern/

    Will EU close her borders?


  • #8588
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Nah 31st of March is the new date at existing rates as it stands

    Thanks mate!


  • #8589
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the PUP is still dropping down to 203 in Feb? my site is still shut.

    Apparently stay at current rates until 31st March https://www.thejournal.ie/current-pandemic-unemployment-to-stay-january-5317045-Jan2021/


  • #8590
    mackD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭mackD


    Virgin Media News so far....

    1. UK variant causing higher mortality rate
    2. Vaccine possibly not effective against new variants
    3. Gardai have stepped up their 5km fines complete with regional map of fine numbers.

    Jesus Christ....how about starting the bulletin with some vaccine rollout numbers to help boost morale?!!


  • #8591
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Christ it just doesn't stop ..

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0122/1191331-covid-eu-variants-concern/

    Will EU close her borders?

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/22/eu-travel-bans-bloc-leaders-agree-to-keep-borders-open-for-now


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  • #8592
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    mackD wrote: »
    Virgin Media News so far....

    1. UK variant causing higher mortality rate
    2. Vaccine possibly not effective against new variants
    3. Gardai have stepped up their 5km fines complete with regional map of fine numbers.

    Jesus Christ....how about starting the bulletin with some vaccine rollout numbers to help boost morale?!!

    Because the vaccine numbers are equally as depressing.


  • #8593
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/theonlypeterkay/status/1352671800128385032?s=20

    10 out of 1000 for old variant. 13 - 14 out of 1000 for new. That is a big increase. he says he is unsure. Perhaps he should not say such a thing until he is fairly sure..

    I can't get my head around this cavalier attitude towards such allegedly serious news, like it changes everything if it's true. He says a proportional increase in death risk for all age groups, well a 30-40% increase upon the existing risk for people over 80 means a very large risk of death now for that age group. Existing IFR over 80 has varied but all estimates put it at at least 5% but up to 15%.So from a 5-15% IFR for over 80 to 6.5/7% - 20/21% IFR for those age groups.


  • #8594
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Christ it just doesn't stop ..

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0122/1191331-covid-eu-variants-concern/

    Will EU close her borders?

    Think there's an incentive to alright with variants and trying to get cases down to vaccinate people.


  • #8595
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    froog wrote: »
    more likely their health service has collapsed and people are dying from lack of treatment.

    World governments have been briefed. The death rate for the new strain is higher in the EU as well. It came from a mink farm in Denmark.

    They are also slowly leaking us the news that the vaccine arent as effective as we thought.


  • #8596
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,194 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Seem to be settling on PCR testing prior to travel and potentially a ban on non EU travellers/mandatory quarantine for those who arrive without a negative test. Level heads prevailing although I do agree with this somewhat increased level of restrictions for the next few months to give some breathing space to get the vaccine rolled out.

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/22/eu-travel-bans-bloc-leaders-agree-to-keep-borders-open-for-now

    Watch this space I think.

    The shift in tone from European leaders over the last few days has been pretty abrupt, by the relatively glacial standards of a pan European response to anything. There seems to a bit of momentum for something to occur.

    We'll see how it pans out, but I suspect you might be underestimating the measures that could end up being part of a response.


  • #8597
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Arghus wrote: »
    Feels like the mood music from Europe has changed over the last couple of days. Talk of travel restrictions between states and the phrase "zero Covid" has been flown around a bit in the media. Even over here there's talk of a "two island solution"

    The plates are shifting lads.

    I'll believe it when I see it.


  • #8598
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,420 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    landofthetree wrote: »
    They are also slowly leaking us the news that the vaccine arent as effective as we thought.

    Source?


  • #8599
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    If they're not sure of their data re variant mortality why are they announcing it? It'll be an enormously difficult to backtrack now if it isn't the case.

    It's a very significant difference so I can't understand why they didn't dot the i's a little more first.


  • #8600
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Michael says no to sealing the border or the island. Four more weeks of Level 5.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0122/1191497-taoiseach-covid-latest/


  • #8601
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Also : Meanwhile, British Health Secretary Matt Hancock said "there is evidence in the public domain" that the South African coronavirus variant "reduces by about 50%" vaccine efficacy.

    Slowly leaking the news that vaccines dont work.


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  • #8602
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Virgin media news just there was probably the most depressing news segment I’ve seen to date. I feel like sinking myself into a vat of wine and not coming up for air until August


  • #8603
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Christ it just doesn't stop ..

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0122/1191331-covid-eu-variants-concern/

    Will EU close her borders?

    I'd see that as a positive somewhat.

    If the member states (collectively) start getting more restrictive on travel issues due to concerns about current or possible future mutations to the virus, we will likely try and follow + grasp the nettle no matter what "thorns/stings" are on it (NI, UK etc).

    They (Irish government) do listen to the EU & watch what others in the EU are doing generally.


  • #8604
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Source?

    Bristol University Doctor on The Hard Shoulder said the vaccines may not be as effective with the Brazilian and South African variants.


  • #8605
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,429 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Virgin media news just there was probably the most depressing news segment I’ve seen to date. I feel like sinking myself into a vat of wine and not coming up for air until August

    Care to share? Although not sure I want to hear it!


  • #8606
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Source?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1191502/


    Meanwhile, British Health Secretary Matt Hancock said "there is evidence in the public domain" that the South African coronavirus variant "reduces by about 50%" vaccine efficacy.


  • #8607
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Virgin media news just there was probably the most depressing news segment I’ve seen to date. I feel like sinking myself into a vat of wine and not coming up for air until August

    About what??


  • #8608
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    landofthetree wrote: »
    They know that they have ****ed up the vaccine order and there isnt a snowballs of everyone in the EU getting it by next winter. That's why there has been a big shift.

    Better they say what they think now, the major problem with this pandemic is that every government has been too reactive rather than proactive. If we aren't sharing this kind of information early enough then we are in deep crap.


  • #8609
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    PokeHerKing wrote: »
    Have we established that he wasn't talking $hite?


    It's possible to fact check it here


  • #8610
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Slowly leaking the news that vaccines dont work.

    That's Hancock being irresponsible. He's referring to papers in the public domain that suggest there may be vaccine efficacy issues with the SA variant. There may not be. We just don't know yet. Preliminary impressions aren't great though. He made it sound though like there's a definite problem. We. Do. Not. Know. Yet.

    Edit. Looking into this further Hancock made the remarks in private the Daily Mail leaked them. Can't really blame him too much here.


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  • #8611
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Slowly leaking the news that vaccines dont work.

    Ah **** sake. This and the mortality increase today. Couldn't be true what are the chances. I give up, what is even the point in caring anymore


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