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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8552
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    I looked through the Thursday NPHET updates from May. The lowest quoted R number I could find was "between 0.4 and 0.6". It does feel like we are doing nearly as well as April/May, which is a bit surprising given the restrictions are not quite as severe and there was (supposedly) a new infectious variant at play.

    Might be masks. There was minimal mask wearing in april/may.


  • #8553
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    I looked through the Thursday NPHET updates from May. The lowest quoted R number I could find was "between 0.4 and 0.6". It does feel like we are doing nearly as well as April/May, which is a bit surprising given the restrictions are not quite as severe and there was (supposedly) a new infectious variant at play.
    That's my recollection as well with a caveat that it was very hard to be sure of it at those levels.


  • #8554
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Might be masks. There was minimal mask wearing in april/may.
    It wasn't brought in until the end of June and Level 3. Up to then masks were largely scorned by NPHET.


  • #8555
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Preliminary stage but more crap news:
    "Boris Johnson said: "In addition to spreading more quickly it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant, the variant that was first identified in London and the south east, may be associated with a higher degree of mortality."

    I read 62% of cases here are of the UK variant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55768627


  • #8556
    BlondeBomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    Any reason ICU numbers not updated today?


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  • #8557
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Preliminary stage but more crap news:
    "Boris Johnson said: "In addition to spreading more quickly it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant, the variant that was first identified in London and the south east, may be associated with a higher degree of mortality."

    I read 62% of cases here are of the UK variant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55768627

    The various media platforms are outdoing themselves today!


  • #8558
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Preliminary stage but more crap news:
    "Boris Johnson said: "In addition to spreading more quickly it also now appears that there is some evidence that the new variant, the variant that was first identified in London and the south east, may be associated with a higher degree of mortality."

    I read 62% of cases here are of the UK variant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55768627

    I'd be skeptical of this. Their testing like ours has had really high positivity rates. It's extremely difficult to infer mortality rates in those circumstances. This is because your sample of cases are already biased towards more morbid and severe outcomes to begin with.


  • #8559
    Psychedelic Hedgehog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Also, it's Boris. He's got one eye on saving his own skin.


  • #8560
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    majcos wrote: »
    How many are people now looking on Google maps or similar for hairdressers located next to Sligo Garda station?

    It's there, have a look.


  • #8561
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not ideal https://twitter.com/paulcolgan/status/1352667533111910400?s=19


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  • #8562
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1352668540034310144


  • #8563
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »
    Also, it's Boris. He's got one eye on saving his own skin.
    It's reporatge from the scientists, though I know what you mean about BJ delivering it.


  • #8564
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    Tbh Boris has made such a cack up of the covid response that I automatically distrust anything he says

    Maybe this is C19 weariness setting in, I've been very careful all year and nothing will change my behaviour until I'm vaccinated. It also doesn't really seem like increased mortality is reflected in the cases and mortality figures we've seen but again, just tired of this now


  • #8565
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not ideal https://twitter.com/paulcolgan/status/1352667533111910400?s=19

    I’m looking forward to someone profiling this vaccine project when all is said and done

    The amount of overpromising and underperforming by AstraZeneca is obscene. One calamity after another.


  • #8566
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not ideal https://twitter.com/paulcolgan/status/1352667533111910400?s=19

    Countries informed through the week by AZ so doesn't look like it changes anything for the 600,000 doses we were told we're getting by AZ only 48hrs ago.

    Thats 600k doses by the end of March, deliveries will also be monthly


  • #8567
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »
    Also, it's Boris. He's got one eye on saving his own skin.

    Remember in December when Boris announced the new variant and a lot on here thought he was talking sh1t to save his own skin?


  • #8568
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Countries informed through the week by AZ so doesn't look like it changes anything for the 600,000 doses we were told we're getting by AZ only 48hrs ago.

    Thats 600k doses by the end of March, deliveries will also be monthly

    Yeah guess it might affect how many people can be vaccinated at a time to ensure there's enough for people to get their 2nd dose.


  • #8569
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah guess it might affect how many people can be vaccinated at a time to ensure there's enough for people to get their 2nd dose.

    Not really, if you know there's a monthly delivery coming in you can plan fairly well for that. For example they know 600k doses by end of March so can work off that


  • #8570
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Not really, if you know there's a monthly delivery coming in you can plan fairly well for that. For example they know 600k doses by end of March so can work off that

    I'm not sure if the 600k is guaranteed if overall supply is affected though. Full article here on it: https://www.ft.com/content/3dbfe495-5947-4dd0-9f43-5edc5e6d6dc7?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6


  • #8571
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Why has the UK government declared it a slight increase in mortality rate when the figure they accompanied with the statement implies a 30%-40% rise in deaths in the at risk groups :confused::confused:


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  • #8572
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if the 600k is guaranteed if overall supply is affected though. Full article here on it: https://www.ft.com/content/3dbfe495-5947-4dd0-9f43-5edc5e6d6dc7?segmentid=acee4131-99c2-09d3-a635-873e61754ec6

    600k is what was said on Wednesday to have been confirmed by AstraZeneca to Ireland, can't see that changing majorly in 48hrs.

    Delivery details and quantities are agreed between each country and supplier

    Austria seem to be saying they're also getting 600k, perhaps this might be the inital delivery much like Pfizer was the same across all countries.


  • #8573
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Feels like the mood music from Europe has changed over the last couple of days. Talk of travel restrictions between states and the phrase "zero Covid" has been flown around a bit in the media. Even over here there's talk of a "two island solution"

    The plates are shifting lads.


  • #8574
    Luke-m
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Luke-m


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Why has the UK government declared it a slight increase in mortality rate when the figure they accompanied with the statement implies a 30%-40% rise in deaths in the at risk groups :confused::confused:

    BBC explains it here,
    1,000 60-year-olds infected with the old variant, 10 of them might be expected to die. But this rises to around 13 with the new variant.


  • #8575
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    It's there, have a look.

    It’s outside my 5km radius but I doubt that matters to the regular customers!

    (My post wasn’t intended to poke holes in the credibility of your claim. It was meant to convey that some people might be delighted to hear that there is somewhere ‘open for business’ and be trying to find it. )


  • #8576
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Benimar wrote: »
    Remember in December when Boris announced the new variant and a lot on here thought he was talking sh1t to save his own skin?

    Have we established that he wasn't talking $hite?


  • #8577
    Pulsating Star
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Pulsating Star


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1352668540034310144

    Might some of the increased mortality be due to the state of the NHS at the moment. If only those who are severely ill are been accepted for hospitalisation and care resources depleted, outcomes would suffer. A consequence of hitting capacity in the health settings at anytime, regardless of variant ?


  • #8578
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    https://twitter.com/theonlypeterkay/status/1352671800128385032?s=20

    10 out of 1000 for old variant. 13 - 14 out of 1000 for new. That is a big increase. he says he is unsure. Perhaps he should not say such a thing until he is fairly sure..


  • #8579
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Arghus wrote: »
    Feels like the mood music from Europe has changed over the last couple of days. Talk of travel restrictions between states and the phrase "zero Covid" has been flown around a bit in the MEDIA. Even over here there's talk of a "two island solution"

    The plates are shifting lads.

    They know that they have ****ed up the vaccine order and there isnt a snowballs of everyone in the EU getting it by next winter. That's why there has been a big shift.


  • #8580
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1352668540034310144

    more likely their health service has collapsed and people are dying from lack of treatment.


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  • #8581
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    PokeHerKing wrote: »
    Have we established that he wasn't talking $hite?

    Well, if he is then so is NPHET and many other countries who believe it exists!


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