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Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 9:16am #1

Not sure where this should go so please move if appropriate Mods.

Anyone that lost their taste, was it a gradual thing, did you lose it overnight or did you notice it fading throughout a period of time.
My friend is a close contact and has no smell today and taste is fading.

22-01-2021 9:19am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Not sure where this should go so please move if appropriate Mods.

Anyone that lost their taste, was it a gradual thing, did you lose it overnight or did you notice it fading throughout a period of time.
My friend is a close contact and has no smell today and taste is fading.

Given they are a close contact, there is a very strong chance it is covid. Should call the GP and will be tested today

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 9:35am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Given they are a close contact, there is a very strong chance it is covid. Should call the GP and will be tested today

Just waiting for the GP to open.

thegills · 22-01-2021 9:41am

Does your friend not need to have tested positive before you are deemed a close contact?

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 9:55am

thegills wrote: »

Does your friend not need to have tested positive before you are deemed a close contact?

Of course but I'm not sick or looking for a test even. I just want to get the shop for gas and get the milk in for the kids bottles before I'm put into isolation for 2 weeks.

Cerveza · 22-01-2021 11:20am

I would do online shopping as you clearly have it and should get tested op.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:27am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Not sure where this should go so please move if appropriate Mods.

Anyone that lost their taste, was it a gradual thing, did you lose it overnight or did you notice it fading throughout a period of time.
My friend is a close contact and has no smell today and taste is fading.

One person I know said they didn't lose their taste and smell until about a week or more after getting it. Its most infectiousness at the start. You may also not lose your taste, or indeed get any symptoms.

Get someone else to go to the shops for you.

22-01-2021 11:31am

Get your ducks in a row first OP, and get your gas and provisions.. Hand sanitizer, face masks, and social distancing will stop any possible spread from yourself... Whatever symptoms you have, or don't have, or close contacts etc; well, at the time you didn't know cos you say you didn't know, and that's the way it'll be... Ring your doctor later - first things first.. You'll probably die from starvation before c19.

Not everyone 'shops online' , and OP presumably wants his milk as far away from the use by date as possible... Gas and milk? - Do local convenience stores have order online facilities..? That's where most people, I presume, get their gas and milk..

Cerveza · 22-01-2021 11:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

Get your ducks in a row first OP, and get your gas and provisions.. Hand sanitizer, face masks, and social distancing will stop any possible spread from yourself... Whatever symptoms you have, or don't have, or close contacts etc; well, at the time you didn't know cos you say you didn't know, and that's the way it'll be... Ring your doctor later - first things first.. You'll probably die from starvation before c19.

Not everyone 'shops online' , and OP presumably wants his milk as far away from the use by date as possible... Gas and milk? - Do local convenience stores have order online facilities..? That's where most people, I presume, get their gas and milk..

Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in when you are telling the op to go out shopping and they probably Covid positive.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:34am

Cerveza wrote: »

I would do online shopping as you clearly have it and should get tested op.

I'm not a close contact I don't have any symptoms. My friend is a contact from work and has symptoms so I could potentially be a close contact if she is positive.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:34am

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...Gas and milk? - Do local convenience stores have order online facilities..? That's where most people, I presume, get their gas and milk..

Petrol stations also...

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:35am

Cerveza wrote: »

Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in when you are telling the op to go out shopping and they probably Covid positive.

I'm not even a contact and have no symptoms for god sake I'm the same as anyone else who could potentially be told they're a contact in a few days ffs

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:36am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

I'm not a close contact I don't have any symptoms. My friend is a contact from work and has symptoms so I could potentially be a close contact if she is positive.

I know people who've worked in the same room with people who have got it, not been deemed a close contact and not got it. Likewise in families.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:38am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

I'm not even a contact and have no symptoms for god sake I'm the same as anyone else who could potentially be told they're a contact in a few days ffs

The point is, if you think you might be at risk, limit your contacts. Going to the shops isn't doing this. Its the opposite of that.

Fuzzyduzzy · 22-01-2021 11:38am

My wife and son had it a few months ago, didn't show and symptoms. I had a common cold a month later and thought that was a lot worse!! I know this is not always the case though and know people who really struggled with it

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:39am

beauf wrote: »

I know people who've worked in the same room with people who have got it, not been deemed a close contact and not got it. Likewise in families.

She's getting a test today so when she gets her result she will tell me, I assume her result will be Sunday? So I'll get my stuff in today and stay in then until she tells me her results. I have rang the HSE and they told me until she gets her results I can carry on as normal.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:39am

The other think is this a open forum. People will speculate, read into things that aren't there. Don't get annoyed by it. That's just how it works.

22-01-2021 11:39am

Cerveza wrote: »

Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in when you are telling the op to go out shopping and they probably Covid positive.

Exactly. Idiotic post.

22-01-2021 11:40am

beauf wrote: »

Petrol stations also...

That's what I meant.. Local convenience stores = petrol stations.. The local shop that sells gas cans, and the like... Am doubting they have online ordering facilities.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:40am

beauf wrote: »

The point is, if you think you might be at risk, limit your contacts. Going to the shops isn't doing this. Its the opposite of that.

The HSE have said its fine to carry on as normal. I can go get gas and milk or would I be able to let my 4 kids freeze and 2 Infants scream for milk and then be told my friends negative??

Cerveza · 22-01-2021 11:43am

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly. Idiotic post.

Sure telling the op to go shopping is much better advice :rolleyes:

22-01-2021 11:43am

Cerveza wrote: »

Sure telling the op to go shopping is much better advice :rolleyes:

I was referring to the advice to the OP. Not your post.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:45am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

She's getting a test today so when she gets her result she will tell me, I assume her result will be Sunday? So I'll get my stuff in today and stay in then until she tells me her results. I have rang the HSE and they told me until she gets her results I can carry on as normal.

The HSE no longer have the resources to test anyone with no symptoms. Its not that that don't need to be tested, is that they don't have the resource's to do it. Though they seem to know the situations mostly likely to be infections. If you are in the same room, with lots of airflow, and barriers and masts, and sitting far apart, you are probably ok.

If you are in the middle of nowhere with no support. You have no choice but to stock up and batten down the hatches. If it were me I'd make the choice to go early when there is no one there, or a remote shop that isn't busy, and just be super particular about masks and touching stuff.

I'd do this even if I know I didn't have it. Last lock-down, I knew no one who got it. This time, I've heard of at least 10 or more.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:48am

Cerveza wrote: »

Sure telling the op to go shopping is much better advice :rolleyes:

Sorry but you are probably Covid positive so you shouldn't leave the house if that's the case. We're all potentially covid positive. I have no symptoms and I was on a walk with my friend yesterday and she got the call to say she was a close contact from a work colleague she was with on Monday, she immediately left and went to isolate. This morning she told me she had symptoms. I don't know why you think I'm positive when I'm not even a contact. And it's not even 24 hours since I was with her I would hardly be contagious and she could still be negative! I'm not a contact at this point so much as you're not either. Unless your alone 24/7 and haven't left the house for months you are just as much a possibility as I am. Ridiculous carry on. And the HSE said I can carry on as normal. No restricted movements even

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:48am

Deleted User wrote: »

That's what I meant.. Local convenience stores = petrol stations.. The local shop that sells gas cans, and the like... Am doubting they have online ordering facilities.

I'm just reminding people sometimes you can pick up the basics in a petrol station where staff are behind screens and the shop is quieter. So less contact. As opposed to a supermarket which will have lots of people in a small space.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:50am

beauf wrote: »

The HSE no longer have the resources to test anyone with no symptoms. Its not that that don't need to be tested, is that they don't have the resource's to do it. Though they seem to know the situations mostly likely to be infections. If you are in the same room, with lots of airflow, and barriers and masts, and sitting far apart, you are probably ok.

If you are in the middle of nowhere with no support. You have no choice but to stock up and batten down the hatches. If it were me I'd make the choice to go early when there is no one there, or a remote shop that isn't busy, and just be super particular about masks and touching stuff.

I'd do this even if I know I didn't have it. Last lock-down, I knew no one who got it. This time, I've heard of at least 10 or more.

But the HSE haven't even told me I'm a contact. They've told me I. Fine to carry on as normal until she has a result. That said, all I'm doing is going to my local shop to stock up before I lock myself away for 2 weeks. Not going to my nanny's for tea, not that I could because she died of covid last year and I myself am high risk as is one of my children so we're hardly going to be careless but as of now I'm the same as any other person who is not a contact and has no symptoms

Jane1012 · 22-01-2021 11:51am

I think people are possibly getting confused. His friend is the one showing symptoms (not him) but his friend has not yet tested positive. Also OP by the contact tracer guidelines you are only a close contact if you have been in contact 48 hours before they started showing symptoms, not sure when you last saw them?

Put it this way, if you had to go in to work today I don’t think your employer would accept, I was in contact with someone who was in contact with someone who has covid and is now getting a test.

None the less, the responsible thing to do is limit your contacts (as we all should be doing anyway) and only leave the house for essential reasons - getting milk and petrol would be essential. Just make sure you wear a mask, distance and sanitise.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:51am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Sorry but you are probably Covid positive so you shouldn't leave the house if that's the case. We're all potentially covid positive. I have no symptoms and I was on a walk with my friend yesterday and she got the call to say she was a close contact from a work colleague she was with on Monday, she immediately left and went to isolate. This morning she told me she had symptoms. I don't know why you think I'm positive when I'm not even a contact. And it's not even 24 hours since I was with her I would hardly be contagious and she could still be negative! I'm not a contact at this point so much as you're not either. Unless your alone 24/7 and haven't left the house for months you are just as much a possibility as I am. Ridiculous carry on. And the HSE said I can carry on as normal. No restricted movements even

I'm not sure what was the point if the thread is you don't want all view points.

Anything with lots of airflow, especially outside, is less risky.

But consider if someone is smoking and you walk behind them, you will smell it. Which means you are breathing their air. That said the droplets probably don't spread as far as smell does.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:56am

beauf wrote: »

I'm not sure what was the point if the thread is you don't want all view points.

Anything with lots of airflow, especially outside, is less risky.

But consider if someone is smoking and you walk behind them, you will smell it. Which means you are breathing their are. That said the droplets probably don't spread as far as smell does.

The thread was actually just asking if people who lost there taste lost it gradually. That's literally the only thing I asked.

beauf · 22-01-2021 11:57am

Dressoutlet wrote: »

The thread was actually just asking if people who lost there taste lost it gradually. That's literally the only thing I asked.

Well you know how forums are. They'll be asking you about bats and all sorts.

Dressoutlet · 22-01-2021 11:59am

Jane1012 wrote: »

I think people are possibly getting confused. His friend is the one showing symptoms (not him) but his friend has not yet tested positive. Also OP by the contact tracer guidelines you are only a close contact if you have been in contact 48 hours before they started showing symptoms, not sure when you last saw them?

Put it this way, if you had to go in to work today I don’t think your employer would accept, I was in contact with someone who was in contact with someone who has covid and is now getting a test.

None the less, the responsible thing to do is limit your contacts (as we all should be doing anyway) and only leave the house for essential reasons - getting milk and petrol would be essential. Just make sure you wear a mask, distance and sanitise.

If she's positive I would be a contact I'm sure of that. But yes you are right being a contact of a contact is not a risk until they're positive. When I say gas I mean so I can have heating and cook in my house which I deem essential. As I said the HSE said until she tests positive I'm not to worry. But I will not leave again once I come back from getting essential items today.

Cerveza · 22-01-2021 11:59am

Stay at home, protect the health service and save lives. It’s that simple.

alexonhisown · 22-01-2021 12:12pm

Stop worrying, go and get your shopping, hse dont consider you a close contact until your friend gets results. You are not breaking any restrictions by going shopping.
And if friend is positive, you are only a close contact if you were within 2 metres for more than 15 mins without a mask.

Wibbs · 22-01-2021 12:24pm

alexonhisown wrote: »

And if friend is positive, you are only a close contact if you were within 2 metres for more than 15 mins without a mask.

Is this magic 15 minutes thing still doing the rounds? Safe at 12, infected at 17...

seamus · 22-01-2021 12:24pm

Is it any wonder people get confused when there's so much incorrect information flying around.

If you are a close contact, you do not need to quarantine. You need to restrict your movements.

This means that you should stay at home as much as possible and should do your best to avoid leaving the house and coming into contact with others. But if you need to go to the shops to get some urgent food and have nobody to get it for you, then you can do that.

More info here:
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html

Quarantine/self-isolation is required if you have tested positive. It means you do not leave the house unless you can go somewhere that you can guarantee not to come into contact with another person. If you need urgent supplies from the shop and have nobody who can get it for you, you contact the Gardai who can arrange it.

alexonhisown · 22-01-2021 12:26pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Is this magic 15 minutes thing still doing the rounds? Safe at 12, infected at 17...

Yes. Was an outbreak in my sons office before xmas and this is what they were told by hse.

22-01-2021 1:18pm

Cerveza wrote: »

Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in when you are telling the op to go out shopping and they probably Covid positive.

It's no wonder people are in the state they're in (annoyed at these draconian restrictions etc..) when it's not only the Gov , but plenty of cheerleaders as well for the "Stay at home" advice.

Going by the info prior to our posts it seems to me to be improbable that the OP has the bug. That won't stop people blowing stuff out of proportion. It aint the self-righteous Boards way.

alexonhisown · 22-01-2021 1:32pm

Cerveza wrote: »

Is it any wonder we are in the state we are in when you are telling the op to go out shopping and they probably Covid positive.

The op doesn't have symptoms and so far is not considered a "close contact". So why shouldn't they go shopping, if its essential.

We have enough restrictions in place atm, no need to make more up.

Cerveza · 22-01-2021 1:34pm

People are in bad form these days with the pubs closed.

odyssey06 · 22-01-2021 2:29pm

You may not get delivery slot at short notice but maybe grab one for when you will next need supplies, if Tesco\Supervalu deliver to your area.

beauf · 22-01-2021 2:54pm

alexonhisown wrote: »

The op doesn't have symptoms and so far is not considered a "close contact". So why shouldn't they go shopping, if its essential.

We have enough restrictions in place atm, no need to make more up.

Because you might catch it in the shop.

It's just good practise to avoid things you don't have to do. If you can. If you can't then there's no reason to ask the question in the first place.

The OP may not have intended to, but this thread reads like "I'm asking for a friend". Especially for the speed readers, and hard of reading.

partyguinness · 22-01-2021 3:10pm

Chatting to a buddy of mine this morning over the phone. The whole family have been laid up with C19.

Wife and daughter went to sister's house St Stephen's Day and they all caught it and brought it back to hubby and son. My buddy and wife (both 50 and he smokes), daugter and son (in their mid 20s)

Hubby said that wife caught it first and he then went for a test on a Sunday- came back negative and by Wednesday when he went again he was positive and symptons started.

He said they all had different symptoms:- aches all over but back in particular, temperature, sweats, only he lost taste and smell, basically said aches all over was the most obvious common sign- said it felt like the day after a really hard gym session.. Daughter had a bad cough.

He said the speed at which its spread was shocking. All over the worst of it. No hospital.

A lady at work here is self isolating as husband tested positive but he has no obvious symptoms.

beauf · 22-01-2021 3:13pm

Good to hear.

Wibbs · 22-01-2021 5:52pm

alexonhisown wrote: »

Yes. Was an outbreak in my sons office before xmas and this is what they were told by hse.

Makes for a good simple and simplistic soundbite but it's still quite clearly a nonsense. Then again the same HSE not so long ago were telling people that wearing masks was both useless in the community while protective in clinical settings. At the same time. And fomite transmission was the primary risk. And unless someone was symptomatic they weren't infectious. Months after all of the above were shown to be not the case.

In some cases like the masks it was a keep it simple white lie to protect supplies of PPE, because the public can panic buy. Or in the current case of the advice that if you have symptoms there are no other viruses around so assume you have covid. Yet of all the people tested since christmas when the numbers were getting too high and they mostly excluded the asymptomatic from testing, it seems the majority who report symptoms return negative results, os it seems there are other bugs about or people are imagining symptoms, or both. The advice is to keep idiots going out in the community thinking they've only a head cold and spreading covid.

The 15 minute rule is another keep it simple white lie to keep the panic levels down and reduce the numbers presenting for testing and track and trace. The US CDC has qualified thier "15 minute rule" months ago.

SouthWesterly · 24-01-2021 6:50pm

Called my GP Friday for an appointment. Usual symptoms of sinus infection. She wouldn't see me until I had a test done. Got the results this morning. Negative.

Donald Trump · 24-01-2021 7:16pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Makes for a good simple and simplistic soundbite but it's still quite clearly a nonsense. Then again the same HSE not so long ago were telling people that wearing masks was both useless in the community while protective in clinical settings. At the same time. And fomite transmission was the primary risk. And unless someone was symptomatic they weren't infectious. Months after all of the above were shown to be not the case.

In some cases like the masks it was a keep it simple white lie to protect supplies of PPE, because the public can panic buy. Or in the current case of the advice that if you have symptoms there are no other viruses around so assume you have covid. Yet of all the people tested since christmas when the numbers were getting too high and they mostly excluded the asymptomatic from testing, it seems the majority who report symptoms return negative results, os it seems there are other bugs about or people are imagining symptoms, or both. The advice is to keep idiots going out in the community thinking they've only a head cold and spreading covid.

The 15 minute rule is another keep it simple white lie to keep the panic levels down and reduce the numbers presenting for testing and track and trace. The US CDC has qualified thier "15 minute rule" months ago.

I always understood the 15 minutes thing as a statistical thing and not a mathematical formula. And I understood it to be in the context of air transmission. Not sitting down and chatting to someone and touching the same surfaces as them.

The longer you are in the vicinity of someone who has it, the more likely you are to pick it up. Obviously that likelihood would increase with time. So they didn't want to panic people and pointed out that if you were sharing the same air as someone for 15 mins, you were more likely to have not caught it than caught it. Rather than it was somehow magically physically impossible to catch it if you were only there for 14 minutes.

OP. You might be lucky. Because there is a few days between infection and being infectious. It depends on the person of course. They say you are typically infectious for a day or two before symptoms. Assuming that the person who tested positive got their test in good time, then hopefully either they weren't infectious when in contact with your friend, or else she was not infectious when she met you. Unless someone waited a day or two extra to either get a test or inform others. You will hopefully be lucky

Edit to add. But until you hear from your friend, please assume you have it and act accordingly just in case.

TheValeyard · 24-01-2021 7:35pm

Tested positive last week
So far my symptoms have been flu like.
Very sore sinus and blocked.
Headaches.
Zero taste or smell.
Aches all over.
Burning sensation behind the eyes.
Can feel it in your chest/the heart.

But in good form, eating drinking well, getting plenty of rest (as you can with two young kids in the house)

Definitely not the sickest I've ever been. The flu of 2019 was definitely worse for me personally. But then I'm only a few days into this.

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