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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8192
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Contact tracing still happens. Contacts are informed but not referred for a test.

    Yeah that's what I meant, are we back testing those people who are close contacts? An old man once said "If we stop testing, we'd have fewer cases"


  • #8193
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    seamus wrote: »
    By the way Donnelly goes on, he either doesn't or he's paying his advisor too much.

    The irony here is that Donnelly is exactly the guy who would have gone mad at this and accused the MoH of being sloppy.
    True but there's an element of that "holding the government to account" by the Opposition to remind us why they get paid so much!


  • #8194
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    castletownman wrote: »
    I hadn't realised that Holohan's latest remarks were in a letter to the Minister for Health. It's not as bad so and I got my wires crossed.

    Then again, when the headline is "Tony Holohan predicts as many as 1000 Covid deaths in January" as a news notification on my phone, I don't tend to click in for the daily gloom. Media-driven scaremongering.

    I find its better for my mental health.

    How is it scaremongering? Up to 1000 deaths this January seems like a pretty accurate prediction


  • #8195
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    darem93 wrote: »
    Jesus cases are still remaining steady and even creeping up a little bit. I was hoping we'd be seeing them under 2,000 by now.

    No they are not

    They are decreasing rapidly.


  • #8196
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Yeah that's what I meant, are we back testing those people who are close contacts? An old man once said "If we stop testing, we'd have fewer cases"
    Under 2K it will return I believe. Current levels would give you, at an average of 3 contacts, a further almost 9,000 to chase and test. Under 2K that comes down to 6,000.


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  • #8197
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    darem93 wrote: »
    Jesus cases are still remaining steady and even creeping up a little bit. I was hoping we'd be seeing them under 2,000 by now.

    How are they creeping up?


  • #8198
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Can anyone explain where people are still catching it?

    1/3 of people are catching it in hospital which seems very high considering HCWs tested regularly, PPE at. It seems very high.

    2/3 catching it some place else? Assuming some is in nursing homes? But it is non compliant workforce or people just ignoring all the guidelines.


  • #8199
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    darem93 wrote: »
    Jesus cases are still remaining steady and even creeping up a little bit. I was hoping we'd be seeing them under 2,000 by now.

    Check weekly case average i posted earlier.


  • #8200
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    How does anyone catch it in a hospital? Don't they have PPE? Surely they should be the safest areas.


  • #8201
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Amazing that post got three likes


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  • #8202
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,309 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    MattS1 wrote: »
    How does anyone catch it in a hospital? Don't they have PPE? Surely they should be the safest areas.


    Poor ventilation, excess heat, perfect breathing ground for it.


  • #8203
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Can anyone explain where people are still catching it?

    1/3 of people are catching it in hospital which seems very high considering HCWs tested regularly, PPE at. It seems very high.

    2/3 catching it some place else? Assuming some is in nursing homes? But it is non compliant workforce or people just ignoring all the guidelines.

    Increase in outbreaks in workplaces is one factor apparently


  • #8204
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Can anyone explain where people are still catching it?

    1/3 of people are catching it in hospital which seems very high considering HCWs tested regularly, PPE at. It seems very high.

    2/3 catching it some place else? Assuming some is in nursing homes? But it is non compliant workforce or people just ignoring all the guidelines.

    There's still loads of it going around.

    Two thousand plus cases a day is still a fair amount. It can still be caught fairly easily.

    Plenty of people I work with are still picking it up, either from people they live with or from meeting up with others. Lots of parties still happening etc, etc.

    We are only a few weeks out from Xmas New Years - infections and secondary etc level infection from there are still going to go on for a while yet.


  • #8205
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://www.icn.ch/news/icn-confirms-1500-nurses-have-died-covid-19-44-countries-and-estimates-healthcare-worker-covid
    Estimated 20,000 healthcare workers globally have now lost their lives to COVID. Just an asbolutely surreal number of people lost, heart goes out to anybody on the frontlines in hospitals at this point in the pandemic, must be very scary for them and their families.


  • #8206
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Can anyone explain where people are still catching it?

    1/3 of people are catching it in hospital which seems very high considering HCWs tested regularly, PPE at. It seems very high.

    2/3 catching it some place else? Assuming some is in nursing homes? But it is non compliant workforce or people just ignoring all the guidelines.

    I'll tell you that my neighbours certainly haven't been abiding by guidelines. I see groups going in/out houses and about 4-5 going on walks huddled together, huffing and puffing and talking and laughing into each other's faces, and packs of kids playing outside together (and I know they've been inside homes, too). This must be going on absolutely everywhere. A lot of people shockingly don't think they can catch it off people they know.


  • #8207
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    castletownman wrote: »
    I hadn't realised that Holohan's latest remarks were in a letter to the Minister for Health. It's not as bad so and I got my wires crossed.

    Then again, when the headline is "Tony Holohan predicts as many as 1000 Covid deaths in January" as a news notification on my phone, I don't tend to click in for the daily gloom. Media-driven scaremongering.

    I find its better for my mental health.
    Tony is mistaken - the virus actually turns any broccolli you touch into chocolate and all of your copper coins to solid gold.


  • #8208
    [Deleted User]
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    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I'll tell you that my neighbours certainly haven't been abiding by guidelines. I see groups going in/out houses and about 4-5 going on walks huddled together, huffing and puffing and talking and laughing into each other's faces, and packs of kids playing outside together (and I know they've been inside homes, too). This must be going on absolutely everywhere. A lot of people shockingly don't think they can catch it off people they know.

    People go on about house parties and group gatherings, but from what I see the biggest contributor is most house visits. Someone in for tea in the morning, and again in the afternoon and maybe some family around for dinner or a beer in the evening. The general daily mixing in my estate is definitely increasing after a pause immediately after Christmas


  • #8209
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Can anyone explain where people are still catching it?

    1/3 of people are catching it in hospital which seems very high considering HCWs tested regularly, PPE at. It seems very high.

    2/3 catching it some place else? Assuming some is in nursing homes? But it is non compliant workforce or people just ignoring all the guidelines.

    1/3 of people in hospital are getting it in hospital. Not 1/3 of total. Massive difference.

    Most probably getting it in their homes.


  • #8210
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,309 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Do they check every single person coming in to Dublin Airport for proof of a negative test or are they just doing random checks?


  • #8211
    Newuser2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Newuser2


    Shopping was torture today

    Taking ages to complete with the extreme distancing going on now

    First time I noticed the weariness on nearly everones face on the street

    People seemed to me to be driving like people possessed as well


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  • #8212
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Do they check every single person coming in to Dublin Airport for proof of a negative test or are they just doing random checks?

    Good question. It can't be that hard with the number of people flying in. Could do it at passport control. In theory of course they probably should be but as it's here the practice probably varies a lot.


  • #8213
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    I'm usually very positive & have been working from home since mid March.

    Genuinely only go out for walks, alone & at quieter times & the supermarket max once a week.

    I spend a lot time in the evening on the phone chatting to people, sure I would prefer to do it in person but it's not that bad even though I'm a very sociable person normally.

    Beginning to think I'm the idiot & everyone must be seeing people regularly.


  • #8214
    Flyer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Good question. It can't be that hard with the number of people flying in. Could do it at passport control. In theory of course they probably should be but as it's here the practice probably varies a lot.

    It's done at passport control - every passenger is asked.


  • #8215
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    MattS1 wrote: »
    How does anyone catch it in a hospital? Don't they have PPE? Surely they should be the safest areas.

    I certainly doubt the patients will be wearing PPE. Patients can also bring it into hospitals and spread it around. A test on admission is just a snapshot in time, they could be pre-sympotmatic. It's all all HCW's spreading it around.


  • #8216
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    I'm usually very positive & have been working from home since mid March.

    Genuinely only go out for walks, alone & at quieter times & the supermarket max once a week.

    I spend a lot time in the evening on the phone chatting to people, sure I would prefer to do it in person but it's not that bad even though I'm a very sociable person normally.

    Beginning to think I'm the idiot & everyone must be seeing people regularly.

    No one I know is seeing people regularly . I do see people out walking together with masks on and a distance between them


  • #8217
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    It's done at passport control - every passenger is asked.

    Possible in theory alright but not everyone who has't one hasn't been refused either

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-and-brazil-passengers-allowed-in-to-ireland-without-covid-test-results-jvcszjv9n


  • #8218
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    It's done at passport control - every passenger is asked.

    Does anyone know are they turned around if they don’t have a negative PCR result?
    Or are they denied boarding at the other end if they don’t produce one?

    Edit:just seen the Times article....looks like it’s completely optional....


  • #8219
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Up to the 19th of Jan as per Ronan Glynn there were 483 deaths.

    55 linked to hospital outbreaks, 155 linked to residential care facilities. Others remain under investigation so this may well go up


  • #8220
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Do they check every single person coming in to Dublin Airport for proof of a negative test or are they just doing random checks?

    Do they do in Cork airport anyway

    However if someone doesn't have the test they're left through anyway so not much point there


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  • #8221
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    No one I know is seeing people regularly . I do see people out walking together with masks on and a distance between them

    The vast majority of people out walking are not wearing masks. Why would they? Agree on the first part when it comes to indoors.


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