Feedback Thread for the GAA Forum 2020:

seligehgit · 13-01-2021 8:43pm #1

Feedback Thread for the GAA Forum 2020:

Feedback thread for 2020 is now open.

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BonnieSituation · 14-01-2021 2:48pm

Cheers seligehgit.

Moderation as always in GAA was great however it was obvious to me and others that you poor guys were over-ran with the incessant "Dublin loadsamoneys" trolls and blow-ins that infested almost thread.

I don't think discussion should be banned on any topic but a zero tolerance attitude to derailing multiple threads with "Dublin loadsamoneys" should be initiated.

I appreciate that the Dublin team deserves discussion wrt funding etc, but it was clear that there were agendas at play and I would be of a thought that a harsher approach is needed to deal with threads becoming unwieldy and out of control and the posters who cause it.

There are posters who solely post on singular topics, whether its Dublin's money or Slatty's obsession with coddle [:P].

I have found myself using the GAA fora less this last year, but it's hard to correlate if its just the year that was in it or the derailing.
Anyway, keep up the good work lads!

And COYBIB!

Enquiring · 14-01-2021 3:09pm

I have found the moderation to be fair and balanced on this forum.

I'm of the opinion that a topic shouldn't be silenced just because some find it uncomfortable.

killbillvol2 · 14-01-2021 3:10pm

The sanctions strike me as very lenient and must be time consuming for mods.

Surely if someone has been yellow carded multiple times they're just a bloody nuisance at that stage and of no benefit to the forum? Any rational being would change their behaviour after, for example, 5 yellow cards.

deisedude · 14-01-2021 3:16pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

The sanctions strike me as very lenient and must be time consuming for mods.

Surely if someone has been yellow carded multiple times they're just a bloody nuisance at that stage and of no benefit to the forum? Any rational being would change their behaviour after, for example, 5 yellow cards.

Agreed, if someone is getting 5 yellow cards in a year they should be permanently banned.

They haven't made any attempt to change their behaviour if they are getting that many cards

greenspurs · 14-01-2021 3:19pm

How long is a red card ban for ? .

I find the moderation in the my usual thread is quite sparsely needed.
I cant comment on other threads.

BonnieSituation · 14-01-2021 4:00pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

The sanctions strike me as very lenient and must be time consuming for mods.

Surely if someone has been yellow carded multiple times they're just a bloody nuisance at that stage and of no benefit to the forum? Any rational being would change their behaviour after, for example, 5 yellow cards.

deisedude wrote: »

Agreed, if someone is getting 5 yellow cards in a year they should be permanently banned.

They haven't made any attempt to change their behaviour if they are getting that many cards

Actually, reading the sanctions again I would have to agree.

Definitely a perma-ban for consistent infractions.

dobman88 · 14-01-2021 4:06pm

Enquiring wrote: »

I have found the moderation to be fair and balanced on this forum.

I'm of the opinion that a topic shouldn't be silenced just because some find it uncomfortable.

I agree with this but I also agree with BonnieSituation.

Keep the Dublin funding discussion exclusively to it's own thread and have a zero tolerance approach to any other thread.

Too many times this year the championship thread md some others descended into farce while games were on with talk of Dublin money, splits, etc. Instead of talking about the game that was on. It's very tiresome for anyone that has no interest in the subject.

In a normal year I'd have been at games so would never notice but it was a pain while watching games at home last year.

Enquiring · 14-01-2021 4:34pm

dobman88 wrote: »

I agree with this but I also agree with BonnieSituation.

Keep the Dublin funding discussion exclusively to it's own thread and have a zero tolerance approach to any other thread.

Too many times this year the championship thread md some others descended into farce while games were on with talk of Dublin money, splits, etc. Instead of talking about the game that was on. It's very tiresome for anyone that has no interest in the subject.

In a normal year I'd have been at games so would never notice but it was a pain while watching games at home last year.

In fairness, you do have an interest in the subject. It's a bit dishonest to claim otherwise. You have commented fairly passionately on the matter!

Are things actually going to be decided by the amount of thanks something gets on this thread? If you're looking for feedback, that seems a bit odd. It opens it up to abuse for those with an agenda or trying to shut things down. Those who shout loudest will get their way?

I think people should be free to discuss any issue in the GAA as long as they're respectful about it. Discussing the major financial issues with Dublin GAA should not be curtailed.

megadodge · 14-01-2021 4:45pm

Enquiring wrote: »

In fairness, you do have an interest in the subject. It's a bit dishonest to claim otherwise. You have commented fairly passionately on the matter!

Are things actually going to be decided by the amount of thanks something gets on this thread? If you're looking for feedback, that seems a bit odd. It opens it up to abuse for those with an agenda or trying to shut things down. Those who shout loudest will get their way?

I think people should be free to discuss any issue in the GAA as long as they're respectful about it. Discussing the major financial issues with Dublin GAA should not be curtailed.

Nobody suggested it should be.

There's a separate thread for discussing Dublin's financial situation/advantages. Whenever the need arises, use that thread.

The thread was set up for the very reason Bonnie was complaining about - multiple threads getting hijacked and derailed by those complaining about Dublin's advantages, meanwhile the original discussion gets left behind because of the endless back-and-forth.

jack67 · 14-01-2021 4:58pm

Enquiring wrote: »

In fairness, you do have an interest in the subject. It's a bit dishonest to claim otherwise. You have commented fairly passionately on the matter!

Are things actually going to be decided by the amount of thanks something gets on this thread? If you're looking for feedback, that seems a bit odd. It opens it up to abuse for those with an agenda or trying to shut things down. Those who shout loudest will get their way?

I think people should be free to discuss any issue in the GAA as long as they're respectful about it. Discussing the major financial issues with Dublin GAA should not be curtailed.

Ah here this is not the Dublin whinging thread ! :rolleyes:

Enquiring · 14-01-2021 5:01pm

megadodge wrote: »

Nobody suggested it should be.

There's a separate thread for discussing Dublin's financial situation/advantages. Whenever the need arises, use that thread.

The thread was set up for the very reason Bonnie was complaining about - multiple threads getting hijacked and derailed by those complaining about Dublin's advantages, meanwhile the original discussion gets left behind because of the endless back-and-forth.

The first post in response to this feedback thread referred to those who wanted to discuss the financial issues with Dublin as trolls and described the issue as 'Dublin loadsamoneys'. I don't think fair and reasoned discussion on the matter is favoured by that poster. The thanks have been rolling in for that post from mostly those who argue in favour of Dublins advantages.

It looks like a case of, if you can't win an argument, silence it.

ghostfacekilla · 14-01-2021 5:15pm

If I pick up yellows in the league, do they carry over into the championship?

flasher0030 · 14-01-2021 5:21pm

Enquiring wrote: »

The first post in response to this feedback thread referred to those who wanted to discuss the financial issues with Dublin as trolls and described the issue as 'Dublin loadsamoneys'. I don't think fair and reasoned discussion on the matter is favoured by that poster. The thanks have been rolling in for that post from mostly those who argue in favour of Dublins advantages.

It looks like a case of, if you can't win an argument, silence it.

Absolutely. It's an uncomfortable topic for some because unfortunately it puts this previously mentioned asterix alongside the 6 in a row, or soon to be 10 in a row or maybe 20 in a row.
Just because some feel uncomfortable, and in fairness the "Dublin loadsamoneys" did happen, it's not fair to just silence it. I agree keep it to the dublin dominance thread. But Enquiring is right; the poster inclined that if some poster brought it up, they were trolling.

BonnieSituation · 14-01-2021 5:26pm

Enquiring wrote: »

The first post in response to this feedback thread referred to those who wanted to discuss the financial issues with Dublin as trolls and described the issue as 'Dublin loadsamoneys'. I don't think fair and reasoned discussion on the matter is favoured by that poster. The thanks have been rolling in for that post from mostly those who argue in favour of Dublins advantages.

It looks like a case of, if you can't win an argument, silence it.

I think you should go read the first post again and heed what's actually written and not what you 'think' is there.

Enquiring · 14-01-2021 5:29pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Absolutely. It's an uncomfortable topic for some because unfortunately it puts this previously mentioned asterix alongside the 6 in a row, or soon to be 10 in a row or maybe 20 in a row.
Just because some feel uncomfortable, and in fairness the "Dublin loadsamoneys" did happen, it's not fair to just silence it. I agree keep it to the dublin dominance thread. But Enquiring is right; the poster inclined that if some poster brought it up, they were trolling.

Yes, I believe the rules are that it must be kept to that thread. Why the need to continue whinging about it when it's already a curtailed topic I wonder?

BonnieSituation · 14-01-2021 5:31pm

flasher0030 wrote: »

Absolutely. It's an uncomfortable topic for some because unfortunately it puts this previously mentioned asterix alongside the 6 in a row, or soon to be 10 in a row or maybe 20 in a row.
Just because some feel uncomfortable, and in fairness the "Dublin loadsamoneys" did happen, it's not fair to just silence it. I agree keep it to the dublin dominance thread. But Enquiring is right; the poster inclined that if some poster brought it up, they were trolling.

It's nothing to do with comfort at all. The forum is being ruined by a singular circular discussion that should be kept on one singular thread.

It's an important topic, but not to the detriment of EVERYTHING else GAA related.

And like I said above it would be better if those who are clearly incensed by the greatest football team in history, that they actually read what people post and not what they 'think' has been posted. It's infuriating to read the same uninformed drivel over and over.

The most enduring fact about the forum in the last couple of years is that you'e some how driven the Dublin and Kerry regulars into each others arms. That took some doing. I'd suggest moving on to the Middle East next.

Anyway, that's the end of me and the 'Dublin loadsamoneys' discussion.

dobman88 · 14-01-2021 5:39pm

Enquiring wrote: »

In fairness, you do have an interest in the subject. It's a bit dishonest to claim otherwise. You have commented fairly passionately on the matter!

Are things actually going to be decided by the amount of thanks something gets on this thread? If you're looking for feedback, that seems a bit odd. It opens it up to abuse for those with an agenda or trying to shut things down. Those who shout loudest will get their way?

I think people should be free to discuss any issue in the GAA as long as they're respectful about it. Discussing the major financial issues with Dublin GAA should not be curtailed.

And not even 20 posts into a feedback thread it has descended into the usual farce.

Enquiring, nobody wants the discussion shutdown or silenced. I and I'm sure some others want it kept confined to it's own thread for lads who are interested in the subject.

I dont want to see county threads, match threads or the championship thread taken up with discussion on Dublin money, advantages, etc etc. It has a thread of its own and all I'm suggesting is that's where it should stay to stop the other threads from going on about the same subject.

And fair enough, I have commented on it. I meant no interest as in i didn't want every thread taken over with that discussion. It has a thread of its own where it should be kept.

It is ironic we are now talking about this here :rolleyes:

ShamoBuc · 14-01-2021 6:06pm

The 'Dublin issue' is not for this thread, kindly dont mention it again, if you already have.

Regarding the sanctions. A red is classified as 2 yellows for the purpose of the Totting up, it will not necessarily mean a ban automatically.
General Boards.ie rules and sanctions are of course still to be followed.

It only takes one click for Mods to see any GAA sanctions a poster may have and it is easy for us to apply a ban as a result.
Some may think the Totting up system is a little 'soft' but it is a Long 12 months remember and if introduced, it can be 'tightened' next year or thereafter if the Feedback from posters wish it.

gormdubhgorm · 14-01-2021 6:08pm

Well I find the moderation on the GAA forum grand, and dare I say it fair. But I was politely asked to not post on the Mayo thread - no cards last month sometime. Where they mentioned Dublin so I gave my opinion on the relevant posts. Nothing excessive trolling or anything. Yet the vibe from the mod was 'we don't like your kind around here'. It did not seem very jovial and 'good natured' in atmosphere.

I noticed the Mayo thread (for example) seem to talk a lot about Dublin and some say such things and say directly or indirectly, that Dublin fans are gougers which passed without comment from the moderator. Stuff like that does not seem very 'GAA' to me.

Personally, I get the impression that some GAA threads like to have the vibe of 'regulars only', which is unfortunate. As personally I welcome comments on matches from people from opposing counties on games. They would know the up and coming players in their county. Giving their take on the game. Or going on about players or clashes with a county from years ago.

It would be a shame if GAA fans are allowed to mix freely when matches are back, but yet there is division in the virtual world of boards.ie.

yop · 14-01-2021 7:00pm

Moderation is grand but the Mayo thread is a pit of trolls and some seem to be untouchable for too long. Plenty of us regulars over the past decade have commented that we have seen the same posters coming in with pure trolling comments and walk away without any warning, infraction or ban and we have reported many many posts without action.

The forum is over run by the same circular theme of money in Dublin and its boring after nearly 10 years. Most don't bother even going near that thread.

As a whole its a good forum, but its possibly one of the busiest on boards.ie and passions run higher in here than in AHs at times so its a hard slog. The more mods the better and zero tolerance for all is needed. If you wouldn't walk up to a lad at a match in a Mayo jersey and call him and/or his team a bottler then you shouldn't do it here. **Insert Dublin and money** there also.

I don't envy your jobs as mods in here either btw.

kksaints · 14-01-2021 10:57pm

Thought the Hurling and Football Championship threads were a difficult read this year. Hurling thread would get derailed constantly by arguments over dirty play, events that happened years ago and pointless arguments over Joe Canning. Football thread was just filled with anti-Dub finance arguments that didn't go anywhere. Mods do a solid job in general but I do think an earlier intervention by them at times would stop these arguments from derailing threads.

ahnowbrowncow · 14-01-2021 11:36pm

I think that there are too many Dublin posters in the forum and they have an unfair advantage in discussions due to their numbers.

I believe that most threads would benefit if the Dublin supporters were split into two or possibly four groups and those groups were given alternate times for when they're allowed to post.

flasher0030 · 15-01-2021 2:50pm

God almighty. Those guys in the Dublin dominance thread have some stamina. I'd given up on it several weeks ago. Repetitive. Went back in there for a quick peek to see if anything new. And it's still going strong.

timple23 · 15-01-2021 10:46pm

Could there be a sub-forum for all the different county threads, then another one for all football matches/competition threads and same for hurling?

PARlance · 15-01-2021 11:14pm

yop wrote: »

Moderation is grand but the Mayo thread is a pit of trolls and some seem to be untouchable for too long. Plenty of us regulars over the past decade have commented that we have seen the same posters coming in with pure trolling comments and walk away without any warning, infraction or ban and we have reported many many posts without action.

The forum is over run by the same circular theme of money in Dublin and its boring after nearly 10 years. Most don't bother even going near that thread.

As a whole its a good forum, but its possibly one of the busiest on boards.ie and passions run higher in here than in AHs at times so its a hard slog. The more mods the better and zero tolerance for all is needed. If you wouldn't walk up to a lad at a match in a Mayo jersey and call him and/or his team a bottler then you shouldn't do it here. **Insert Dublin and money** there also.

I don't envy your jobs as mods in here either btw.

Ara it's far from a pit of trolling Yop, that's a bit dramatic imo, it's grand, you'll always have the odd eejit. Responding to them only encourages it. Not looking at anyone in particular

Moderation is perfect imo, well done and thanks.

I don't know where I got it from, but I've more sense to ever click into a Dublin dominance type thread so can't speak to that.

Lost Ormond · 15-01-2021 11:17pm

Dont think sub forums are needed

Try have far more match threads for specific matches in the championship rather than simply discuss them in the general championship or even the county threads.

RoyalCelt · 16-01-2021 1:36am

Do we need a gaa thread where we can talk about anything? I want to discuss the news that the final was watched by 870k but didn't see a suitable topic on the home page.

corny · 16-01-2021 12:48pm

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Do we need a gaa thread where we can talk about anything? I want to discuss the news that the final was watched by 870k but didn't see a suitable topic on the home page.

The Rugby lads have an Off Topic thread. Anything goes and quite popular with the regular posters.

Slattsy · 16-01-2021 3:07pm

Didn't realise as I've switched off from the forum. Good idea though to be fair.

The biggest problem for me is the re-regs. Doesn't seem to be any control over it.

Year after year, lads get banned, mostly in or around the time Dublin are playing.

And then the following year, mostly in or around the time Dublin are playing (coincidentally) up pop new users to the forum to have their say. Clear as day, anti Dub rhetoric/agenda and can spot it a mile away.

Good luck tidying up this place. It's cesspit.

Paddico · 20-01-2021 2:07pm

Most Rugby and soccer forums have match threads, player threads, under ages threads etc. When I say soccer I'm even talking about LOI clubs with lots of contributors. See Shamrock Rover or CCFC forums for example.

Here we have two sports and everything under that merged into one county.
No decent GAA forum out there.
Time for expansion?

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 3:28pm

Paddico wrote: »

Most Rugby and soccer forums have match threads, player threads, under ages threads etc. When I say soccer I'm even talking about LOI clubs with lots of contributors. See Shamrock Rover or CCFC forums for example.

Here we have two sports and everything under that merged into one county.
No decent GAA forum out there.
Time for expansion?

There are several individual county threads that get quite a lot of traffic. When games on they are either discussed in the main league or championship thread, except the all.irleand which gets it's own match thread.

Dont see the issue in doing things this way, how and why would you expand it?

Lost Ormond · 20-01-2021 3:34pm

dobman88 wrote: »

There are several individual county threads that get quite a lot of traffic. When games on they are either discussed in the main league or championship thread, except the all.irleand which gets it's own match thread.

Dont see the issue in doing things this way, how and why would you expand it?

Some of the individual county threads do get a lot of traffic but individual match threads can generate more traffic and you dont have case where you have discussion of matches across different county threads.
You can have build up in individual match threads from when teams are named and then just move back to the individual county threads or competition thread when game is over.

Hammer Archer · 20-01-2021 3:48pm

Just FYI, individual match threads are certainly allowed. And anyone can set them up prior to a game. There were quite a lot of them 5-10 years ago but, for whatever reason, posters stopped setting them up and all discussion migrated to the general championship threads.
So come the new season, I'd definitely encourage people to create separate match threads for games of interest.

kksaints · 20-01-2021 3:49pm

Festive Life wrote: »

Some of the individual county threads do get a lot of traffic but individual match threads can generate more traffic and you dont have case where you have discussion of matches across different county threads.
You can have build up in individual match threads from when teams are named and then just move back to the individual county threads or competition thread when game is over.

The soccer forum has moved away from match threads the last few years. Only the national team matches and the really big matches such as finals and United vs Liverpool get them now outside World Cups and Euros.

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 3:51pm

Festive Life wrote: »

Some of the individual county threads do get a lot of traffic but individual match threads can generate more traffic and you dont have case where you have discussion of matches across different county threads.
You can have build up in individual match threads from when teams are named and then just move back to the individual county threads or competition thread when game is over.

Fair enough. I always wondered why a match thread was never set up but I kind of got used to just following things in league and championship threads.

I'm sure there's nothing against someone setting up a match thread.

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 3:55pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Just FYI, individual match threads are certainly allowed. And anyone can set them up prior to a game. There were quite a lot of them 5-10 years ago but, for whatever reason, posters stopped setting them up and all discussion migrated to the general championship threads.
So come the new season, I'd definitely encourage people to create separate match threads for games of interest.

When the all Ireland was on this year, someone set up a match thread for it. Personally, I didnt want to use that thread because it was always going to descend into Dublin money advantages etc.etc nonsense. And it did.

The main championship thread, which I was quite happy to keep using for the all Ireland final along with others I'm sure, was locked by a mod.

So if a match thread gets set up, will you keep locking threads while the games are on? Cos that makes no sense imo.

I'd like to see the main threads left open for those of us that want to use them.

Lost Ormond · 20-01-2021 4:01pm

kksaints wrote: »

The soccer forum has moved away from match threads the last few years. Only the national team matches and the really big matches such as finals and United vs Liverpool get them now outside World Cups and Euros.

But thats enough. Even just the biggest games get a separate thread. Leave the general threads to that. General discussion of the championship and the aftermath of the games.

dobman88 wrote: »

When the all Ireland was on this year, someone set up a match thread for it. Personally, I didnt want to use that thread because it was always going to descend into Dublin money advantages etc.etc nonsense. And it did.

The main championship thread, which I was quite happy to keep using for the all Ireland final along with others I'm sure, was locked by a mod.

So if a match thread gets set up, will you keep locking threads while the games are on? Cos that makes no sense imo.

I'd like to see the main threads left open for those of us that want to use them.

Yes that can happen but you simply lock the thread and the general thread will keep going as normal.
You can have the general thread to build up to games and then just have the game thread from when the teams are named to a day or two after the game when a lot of people have moved on and discussion will simply migrate to the countys own threads or the general competition thread

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 4:05pm

Festive Life wrote: »

Yes that can happen but you simply lock the thread and the general thread will keep going as normal.
You can have the general thread to build up to games and then just have the game thread from when the teams are named to a day or two after the game when a lot of people have moved on and discussion will simply migrate to the countys own threads or the general competition thread

Think you may have misinterpreted what I said. I wouldn't like to see the main thread locked while the game is on. I don't care much about specific match threads personally, even though I can see the benefit for people to discuss a specific match, so would like to keep the main thread open while games are on and not locked like it was for the AI last year.

Lost Ormond · 20-01-2021 4:09pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Think you may have misinterpreted what I said. I wouldn't like to see the main thread locked while the game is on. I don't care much about specific match threads personally, even though I can see the benefit for people to discuss a specific match, so would like to keep the main thread open while games are on and not locked like it was for the AI last year.

I never said the main thread should be locked during a game. Having all discussion for the entire competition shouldnt be limited to the main general thread.
The problem is many people solely use the general all ireland 2020 football discussion thread to discuss everything to do with the competition or they use their counties threads which are overwhelmingly used by just 1 counties supporters.
Individual match threads can get the discussion going from more users IMO

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 4:16pm

Festive Life wrote: »

I never said the main thread should be locked during a game. Having all discussion for the entire competition shouldnt be limited to the main general thread.
The problem is many people solely use the general all ireland 2020 football discussion thread to discuss everything to do with the competition or they use their counties threads which are overwhelmingly used by just 1 counties supporters.
Individual match threads can get the discussion going from more users IMO

Yeah, and I agree with that.

Hammer Archer · 20-01-2021 4:24pm

dobman88 wrote: »

When the all Ireland was on this year, someone set up a match thread for it. Personally, I didnt want to use that thread because it was always going to descend into Dublin money advantages etc.etc nonsense. And it did.

The main championship thread, which I was quite happy to keep using for the all Ireland final along with others I'm sure, was locked by a mod.

So if a match thread gets set up, will you keep locking threads while the games are on? Cos that makes no sense imo.

I'd like to see the main threads left open for those of us that want to use them.

It would've descended into that regardless of which thread the match discussion was in.
I'll admit it took us too long to clamp down on that talk after the final. It was a bit of a nightmare as I've a young baby at home so moderating was a bit difficult, Rebelgirl was busy during the match, seligehgit is a Mayo man and it's not fair to expect him to moderate the thread while watching his team (and also, we avoid moderating threads that involve our own counties to stop us being accused of bias). The only active mod left was ShamoBuc who can only do so much.

In the new season, I'd expect the general thread to stay open but any discussion of matches that have their own thread (if there are any) would be sent there.

grbear · 20-01-2021 4:35pm

Is there a policy in place to deal with people who feed the trolls? I've seen a few threads derailed by idiots/trolls but part of the reason they go to hell in a handcart is that people who should know better continually interact with the goofs. I don't like seeing potentially interesting conversations or discussions basically strangled by people egging on trolls.

Hammer Archer · 20-01-2021 4:42pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Well I find the moderation on the GAA forum grand, and dare I say it fair. But I was politely asked to not post on the Mayo thread - no cards last month sometime. Where they mentioned Dublin so I gave my opinion on the relevant posts. Nothing excessive trolling or anything. Yet the vibe from the mod was 'we don't like your kind around here'. It did not seem very jovial and 'good natured' in atmosphere.

I noticed the Mayo thread (for example) seem to talk a lot about Dublin and some say such things and say directly or indirectly, that Dublin fans are gougers which passed without comment from the moderator. Stuff like that does not seem very 'GAA' to me.

Personally, I get the impression that some GAA threads like to have the vibe of 'regulars only', which is unfortunate. As personally I welcome comments on matches from people from opposing counties on games. They would know the up and coming players in their county. Giving their take on the game. Or going on about players or clashes with a county from years ago.

It would be a shame if GAA fans are allowed to mix freely when matches are back, but yet there is division in the virtual world of boards.ie.

Generally we threadban posters when their posts (usually in another county thread) are winding up others. This may not be because they're deliberately trolling (so we don't issue cards), but simply to get discussion back on track and avoid pages and pages of pointless arguments which would drive regulars away. And I've done the same to posters on the Dublin thread in the past. It's mentioned in the charter that county threads are treated differently than general threads on the forum and the rules on "trolling" are much tighter.

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Do we need a gaa thread where we can talk about anything? I want to discuss the news that the final was watched by 870k but didn't see a suitable topic on the home page.

I think one was set up years ago but it kind of drifted away as people stopped posting in it. I don't see any reason why another one couldn't be created.

Slattsy wrote: »

Didn't realise as I've switched off from the forum. Good idea though to be fair.

The biggest problem for me is the re-regs. Doesn't seem to be any control over it.

Year after year, lads get banned, mostly in or around the time Dublin are playing.

And then the following year, mostly in or around the time Dublin are playing (coincidentally) up pop new users to the forum to have their say. Clear as day, anti Dub rhetoric/agenda and can spot it a mile away.

Good luck tidying up this place. It's cesspit.

Unfortunately with reregs, our ability to catch them is limited. If we spot them simply from our experience, we need to report them to the admins who have more tools at their disposal to catch reregs. There have been times where we are 100% sure of reregs but nothing shows up in the admin tools. As a result, we sort of have to grin and bear it. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
Having said that, we have gotten numerous re-regs banned over the years. Sometimes it's also a case of allowing them post enough for the admins to have enough concrete evidence that they've re-registered.

Hammer Archer · 20-01-2021 4:54pm

grbear wrote: »

Is there a policy in place to deal with people who feed the trolls? I've seen a few threads derailed by idiots/trolls but part of the reason they go to hell in a handcart is that people who should know better continually interact with the goofs. I don't like seeing potentially interesting conversations or discussions basically strangled by people egging on trolls.

Depends really. There's sometimes a fine line between trolling and a controversial opinion. However, for the obvious trolls (for example, posters going onto county threads specifically to gloat after a victory), there's nothing in place for posters that respond. But, as a mod, it's exceptionally frustrating when a poster trolls and no-one reports it but heaps still respond. Some posters don't seem to realise that we don't (and can't) read every single post on the forum. At the busiest times, we could be getting hundreds of posts every hour, so we rely on reported posts.

dobman88 · 20-01-2021 5:17pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It would've descended into that regardless of which thread the match discussion was in.
I'll admit it took us too long to clamp down on that talk after the final. It was a bit of a nightmare as I've a young baby at home so moderating was a bit difficult, Rebelgirl was busy during the match, seligehgit is a Mayo man and it's not fair to expect him to moderate the thread while watching his team (and also, we avoid moderating threads that involve our own counties to stop us being accused of bias). The only active mod left was ShamoBuc who can only do so much.

In the new season, I'd expect the general thread to stay open but any discussion of matches that have their own thread (if there are any) would be sent there.

Fair enough. And that's where the zero tolerance approach must come in. Any post like that should be moved to the Dublin dominance thread to stop other threads descending into the usual stuff.

Its overall an enjoyable forum with pretty fair moderation. But with everything, the few have potential to ruin it for the many

Enquiring · 20-01-2021 9:10pm

The Dublin issue (one of the biggest issues facing the GAA) is already restricted to one thread. I presume this occurred because of a large number of complaints. These complaints kicked off in this thread from the second post and it has dominated the thread since. I'm sure some people go too far in their criticism of Dublin's advantages but there are 2 sides to this. You wouldn't realise that reading this thread.

I propose some other restrictions which might assist things on this forum. Blatant untruths should be confined to individual county pages. So, for example, if someone from Cork wanted to claim that their jersey wasn't red, they could do so but only on their county page. If proof can be shown that their jersey is, in fact, red, then they are restricted from posting that on another thread.

Basically, if posts can be shown to be untrue, then they shouldn't be allowed to repeat that post. It would increase the quality of posts on this forum I believe, as people would have to provide evidence for their claims.

ShamoBuc · 20-01-2021 9:21pm

Enquiring wrote: »

The Dublin issue (one of the biggest issues facing the GAA) is already restricted to one thread. I presume this occurred because of a large number of complaints. These complaints kicked off in this thread from the second post and it has dominated the thread since. I'm sure some people go too far in their criticism of Dublin's advantages but there are 2 sides to this. You wouldn't realise that reading this thread.

I propose some other restrictions which might assist things on this forum. Blatant untruths should be confined to individual county pages. So, for example, if someone from Cork wanted to claim that their jersey wasn't red, they could do so but only on their county page. If proof can be shown that their jersey is, in fact, red, then they are restricted from posting that on another thread.

Basically, if posts can be shown to be untrue, then they shouldn't be allowed to repeat that post. It would increase the quality of posts on this forum I believe, as people would have to provide evidence for their claims.

Restricting the 'Dublin Issue' to one thread was necessary as some posters were in many threads, derailing them. That won't be allowed to happen again.
Yellows will, be issued and bans applied if necessary.

Untruths, can be biased opinions, opposite opinions, poor opinions, deluded opinions, trolling etc
We are here to discuss. All opinions are welcome, even ones of opposing views. If a line is crossed, report the post and let the Mods take a look.

Over 100 years ago, the Cork Jersey was indeed, not red.

Enquiring · 20-01-2021 9:32pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Restricting the 'Dublin Issue' to one thread was necessary as some posters were in many threads, derailing them. That won't be allowed to happen again.
Yellows will, be issued and bans applied if necessary.

Untruths, can be biased opinions, opposite opinions, poor opinions, deluded opinions, trolling etc
We are here to discuss. All opinions are welcome, even ones of opposing views. If a line is crossed, report the post and let the Mods take a look.

Over 100 years ago, the Cork Jersey was indeed, not red.

I don't have a problem with the Dublin issue being confined to one thread. Just to note that there are 2 sides to it. Those complaining about others having legitimate concerns about a certain topic derail threads also.

Just say someone from Cork continued to claim that their jersey wasn't red despite having not worn a different colour jersey in many years, we all just nod along to keep them happy? If someone was claiming that the world was flat on other forums, would they be let continue to post that? I'm not sure, just thought it was a good idea to try to improve standards of posts. If that's not a popular view, that's fine by me.

ShamoBuc · 20-01-2021 9:42pm

Enquiring wrote: »

I don't have a problem with the Dublin issue being confined to one thread. Just to note that there are 2 sides to it. Those complaining about others having legitimate concerns about a certain topic derail threads also.

Just say someone from Cork continued to claim that their jersey wasn't red despite having not worn a different colour jersey in many years, we all just nod along to keep them happy? If someone was claiming that the world was flat on other forums, would they be let continue to post that? I'm not sure, just thought it was a good idea to try to improve standards of posts. If that's not a popular view, that's fine by me.

As I said, if a post needs reporting, report it.

Enquiring · 20-01-2021 9:47pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

As I said, if a post needs reporting, report it.

I was just making a suggestion, feedback for this forum was requested. I didn't think suggestions were being rejected without any discussion? Anyway, I will report posts if necessary, thanks.

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