Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

oceanman wrote: »

most of them put business first and covid second im afraid.....

Yes, there was a lot of that last year, I think the last 3 weeks have opened a lot of eyes.

Gael23 wrote: »

Is there a legal basis for the 5km rule? People have the right to freedom constitutionally

The state has an obligation under the constitution to protect the health of workers, there all measures required by public health are consitutionally acceptable even when contrary to rights.

https://twitter.com/NewsNodes/status/1351645289317355522
https://twitter.com/NewsNodes/status/1351645293486485512

Ireland has fallen out of the top 10 worldwide in positivty rate for testing

What is odd is some African countries seeing quite high death rates recently..by European standards, you'd wonder how it took so long into the pandemic for some African countries to see any significant deaths from COVID..or begin to report them at least.

bb1234567 wrote: »

That's insane how accurately the covid deaths and excess deaths mirror one another. If this is applicable to other countries then it means countries like UK(not NI), Spain, Italy etc which have much higher excess deaths than confirmed COVID deaths are likely undercounting deaths.

I find this hard to comprehend though, would they not just be testing every death with COVID like symptoms for the disease? Like how would any COVID deaths be slipping through the gaps?

Covid deaths are not actually detailed.

These are all deaths regardless of cause compared to the 5 year average, you can assume that the excess deaths are covid but as many deniers on here will say hit by a bus but had covid so it’s a covid death.

There’s a reason for excess deaths atm

Stheno wrote: »

Someone on the tonight show claimed 300 in ICU

I could be wrong but she might of meant total amount of people in ICU including covid and non covid patients. Think it was Dr MotherWay

giveitholly wrote: »

I could be wrong but she might of meant total amount of people in ICU including covid and non covid patients. Think it was Dr MotherWay

That sounds more accurate alright

giveitholly wrote: »

I could be wrong but she might of meant total amount of people in ICU including covid and non covid patients. Think it was Dr MotherWay

That would make sense. From the report majcos posted, 335 total beds minus 27 free = 308 patients in ICU. So that would be 206 with Covid and 102 "other".

Eod100 wrote: »

Yes as Gardai are issuing fines on that basis. It would have been referred to Attorney General who could have advised Cabinet if there were any issues and President would be able to refer to Supreme Court if issues with it too.

Gemma O'Doherty and Waters challenged the restrictions too. I'm not a legal expert but presume judges would take a fairly broad view of temporary public health emergency measures in a global pandemic which aims to protect a common good of public health. But any citizen would have the right to try to challenge it in court if they felt it was unconstitutional.

under normal conditions you can ignore a Guard asking you where are you going or any need to identify yourself, unless there is evidence of suspicion of a crime they cant detain you. Curious if its different in this case?

Hospital numbers peaked at 8am yesterday in this 3rd wave? I'd hope so..

bb1234567 wrote: »

Amazing how much higher ICU capacity is in some countries compared to here. Czechia and Israel only have double Ireland's population but have had well over 1000 in ICU for weeks straight now without healthcare systems suffering deaths from lack of ICU treatment as far as I know. Lebanon 700 in ICU population 6.8 million. Israel 1150 COVID patients in ICU with a population of 9.2 million. Seriously impressive capacity

Impressive capacity - not impressive that it’s needed

ShooterSF wrote: »

I really don't understand how people can make staff go back to work if they can work from home which I'm hearing time and time again, like when this is all over if you were a manager forcing all these staff onsite increasing theirs and their contacts risk how could you sleep at night? Part of how careful I have tried to be is not wanting to get to the other side of this and freak out about having blood on my hands. Imagine if one of your staff catches it and dies or passes it to someone else who dies and you found out

One of the ladies in our office lives with her parents and her elderly grandparents.
She's the only one who leaves the house for work.
She asked if she could work from home as she's very worried about bringing covid back to her parents / grandparents.
She was flat out denied, and told if she wanted to stay at home she could go on the PUP.
My jaw hit the floor when i heard it as the 3 fellas that made the decision are all family men, so you'd imagine they'd understand that family comes first.

Needless to say for her, and a few other there, their 1st priority is getting through the pandemic as safely as possible.
2nd priority is to change job as soon as jobs become available.

She could easily work from home btw, and did so for a couple of months, mid March to late May last year.