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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Things have stabilised in my hospital at least. Think we have reached the peak of hospitalisations.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Eod100 wrote: »
    As I've seen other people say, don't remember him writing protest songs during civil rights era or Troubles but when something affects his profits he's out with a song. And he'd be in a lot better position than other artists. Sure he can still do online ticketed gigs like lots of artists have done. I'm sure he could afford to pay someone to set it up like. :rolleyes:

    Yeah, don't know much about the guy to be honest, but there seems to have been a fair few musician types that have gone weird these last couple of years. A sign of our wonky politics maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,872 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(

    AFAIK 93 is roughly one day's death toll from all causes in ROI in normal times...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(

    As about 95% of deaths occur in the over 65 age group Ireland’s young population does happen to cause complete population stats to portray an inaccurate picture.

    90 deaths today in Ireland, likely in the over 65 age group is the equivalent of about 1600 in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yeah, don't know much about the guy to be honest, but there seems to have been a fair few musician types that have gone weird these last couple of years. A sign of our wonky politics maybe.

    Ah he was always a contrarian but seems to have gone full crank lately. Dunno is it an old age thing or with covid people being fed dodgy views or a combination. Say some of his fanbase will be turned off by this stuff and wouldn't be rushing to see him whenever gigs come back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(

    You may need to check your workings, 1610 deaths in the UK would be the equivalent of ~120 in Ireland.
    Also best to go with a 7 day average as it's more suitable to use as an comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(

    No, it'd be more! 93 sounds high to us because Ireland has not had any outbreak like the scale of Europe. Many EUropean countries see 20 or deaths per million daily which is 100 here which has never happened.

    Uk saw 24 deaths per million today, which would be 120 deaths here, and 7940 in the USA. UK's COVID outbreak is almost unparalleled in it's scale of deaths globally..it's really really bad. Not to mention the fact that UK excess deaths are about 20% higher than their COVID deaths, Ireland's excess deaths are generally lower than the confirmed deaths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    As about 95% of deaths occur in the over 65 age group Ireland’s young population does happen to cause complete population stats to portray an inaccurate picture.

    90 deaths today in Ireland, likely in the over 65 age group is the equivalent of about 1600 in the UK.


    UK has 13.5 times Irish population, 90 deaths in Ireland is equivalent to 1215

    deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    UK has 13.5 times Irish population, 90 deaths in Ireland is equivalent to 1215

    deaths.

    It has about 18 times more citizens in the vulnerable age group.

    About 12 million citizens over 65

    Ireland had about 640,000 last time I checked


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    You may need to check your workings, 1610 deaths in the UK would be the equivalent of ~120 in Ireland.
    Also best to go with a 7 day average as it's more suitable to use as an comparison.

    Sure, I'm just projecting on basis of population from 2020 census figures.

    IRL UK US
    Pop 4937786 67886011 330746845
    Deaths 117 1610 7844


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Eod100 wrote: »

    Do we just give up? Or will the health service respond?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Sure, I'm just projecting on basis of population from 2020 census figures.

    IRL UK US
    Pop 4937786 67886011 330746845
    Deaths 117 1610 7844

    So where did you get:
    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I think to me anyway, that the vast majority of people are staying home and heeding the warnings.

    There are also people who have to go to work, even if their work is not deemed essential, for fear of losing their jobs.

    This has really not been addressed enough.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    So where did you get:
    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US?

    Calculated by population number of each country.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(

    Uk has 13 times our population so is it not the equivalent of 124 here? And 8000 in the US? 66 million vs 328 million?

    Maths might be off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Here's our deaths on a 7-day average chart.
    We're rapidly nearing April's peak.

    Oh, and there's only really been two waves when it comes to deaths.

    540046.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Do we just give up? Or will the health service respond?

    How dya mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like schools for students with additional needs won't be opening on Thursday. Probably expected.

    https://twitter.com/emma_okelly/status/1351627791809339396


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Here's our deaths on a 7-day average chart.
    We're rapidly nearing April's peak.

    Oh, and there's only really been two waves when it comes to deaths.

    540046.png

    Our reporting of deaths seem to be spread out over a month, rather than 24h reporting though?

    Not that it makes any difference :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Looks like schools for students with additional needs won't be opening on Thursday. Probably expected.

    https://twitter.com/emma_okelly/status/1351627791809339396


    Another spectacular fail from Norma Foley. She needs to resign she is completely out of her depth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Here's our deaths on a 7-day average chart.
    We're rapidly nearing April's peak.

    Oh, and there's only really been two waves when it comes to deaths.

    540046.png

    Where is Ivor Cummins and all his fanboys pushing the casedemic/hoax now?


    Here’s an interesting one to ponder

    540047.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Our reporting of deaths seem to be spread out over a month, rather than 24h reporting though?

    Not that it makes any difference :(

    Nah, if you look at the raw data you'll see weekly peaks and troughs. A 7 day average smooths it out nicely.

    Hopefully the nature of our outbreak means that there won't be as many deaths as in April. As bad as things are, there's only really 3 weeks of human interaction to feed into the death number. An insane 3 weeks, but only 3 weeks.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nah, if you look at the raw data you'll see weekly peaks and troughs. A 7 day average smooths it out nicely.

    Hopefully the nature of our outbreak means that there won't be as many deaths as in April. As bad as things are, there's only really 3 weeks of human interaction to feed into the death number. An insane 3 weeks, but only 3 weeks.

    Yes, but was 3 weeks of Brazilians running around licking door handles and drooling over the fruit & veg in SuperValu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    AFAIK 93 is roughly one day's death toll from all causes in ROI in normal times...

    COVID is probably the cause of 7 or 8% of the total deaths this month going by them figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I think to me anyway, that the vast majority of people are staying home and heeding the warnings.

    There are also people who have to go to work, even if their work is not deemed essential, for fear of losing their jobs.

    This has really not been addressed enough.

    I really don't understand how people can make staff go back to work if they can work from home which I'm hearing time and time again, like when this is all over if you were a manager forcing all these staff onsite increasing theirs and their contacts risk how could you sleep at night? Part of how careful I have tried to be is not wanting to get to the other side of this and freak out about having blood on my hands. Imagine if one of your staff catches it and dies or passes it to someone else who dies and you found out :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    I really don't understand how people can make staff go back to work if they can work from home which I'm hearing time and time again, like when this is all over if you were a manager forcing all these staff onsite increasing theirs and their contacts risk how could you sleep at night? Part of how careful I have tried to be is not wanting to get to the other side of this and freak out about having blood on my hands. Imagine if one of your staff catches it and dies or passes it to someone else who dies and you found out :/

    I feel like the answer is a mixture of denialism and not being very good at managing people remotely so trying to justify reasons to return to normal asap.

    But mostly denialism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Is there a legal basis for the 5km rule? People have the right to freedom constitutionally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Donnelly on prime time now spoofing on about people who should or shouldn’t get the vaccine in a healthcare setting.....clearly hasn’t a notion...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Where is Ivor Cummins and all his fanboys pushing the casedemic/hoax now?


    Here’s an interesting one to ponder

    540047.jpeg

    That's insane how accurately the covid deaths and excess deaths mirror one another. If this is applicable to other countries then it means countries like UK(not NI), Spain, Italy etc which have much higher excess deaths than confirmed COVID deaths are likely undercounting deaths.

    I find this hard to comprehend though, would they not just be testing every death with COVID like symptoms for the disease? Like how would any COVID deaths be slipping through the gaps?


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