Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

1…250251253255256…333

Comments

  • #7562
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    froog wrote: »
    again, the vaccine is not designed to stop you getting the virus.

    it is designed to get you to not get sick, which is what most people would say is not getting the virus. In fact a successful antibody reaction would destroy the virus before it caused any damage, which is not getting the virus to me.

    Israel study says it reduces transmission. Which is what you would expect.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/19/pfizer-vaccine-may-prevent-transmission-coronavirus-others-israeli/


  • #7563
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Yes but then the €30 per jab will be used to pay extra staff, totally negating the OP's belief that GP's were going to make a fortune and should be forced to administer it for free or face their licence being revoked. Crazy stuff.

    Agree it is absolutely crazy to suggest licence should be revoked. I think there are GPs that would happily give it for free but they should not be asked to do so. I have heard of nurses who volunteered to help out at vaccination clinics in hospitals on their days off. In my opinion they should get full pay at overtime rates if they do so.

    The 30 euro fee for the first few patients vaccinated in the hour would quickly offset the cost of the extra staff in a high volume setting.


  • #7564
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Positive on the swab data for today. Circa 1600 and less than 10% positive rate.

    From GP buddy there was the spike today (normal Monday) so let’s see if the downward trend keeps up the same momentum.


  • #7565
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Positive on the swab data for today. Circa 1600 and less than 10% positive rate.

    From GP buddy there was the spike today (normal Monday) so let’s see if the downward trend keeps up the same momentum.

    Is swab data today what is reported tomorrow, more or less?


  • #7566
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Israel data will be used in real-time and available as they roll it out. It is part of the deal made with Pfizer to track everything.
    Israel has published details of a deal to trade data with US pharmaceutical company Pfizer in return for a steady supply of its coronavirus vaccine, after concerns were expressed over possible privacy violations.

    Under the arrangement, Israel will send weekly updates on the numbers of confirmed cases, hospitalisations, patients in a serious condition and those on a ventilator, as well as the number of vaccinations performed. They will be broken down by age, gender and demographic background, but “no identifiable health information” will be shared.

    The BBC’s Tom Bateman in Jerusalem says some parts of the published contract have been blacked out, but that it shows how Israel has effectively become a real-time results dashboard for Pfizer. The contract says its goal is to see what proportion of Israel’s population needs to be vaccinated to achieve so-called herd immunity.

    Some 2.1 million Israelis have received at least their first dose of a coronavirus vaccine - a greater proportion of its population than any other country.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier this month that he hoped the Pfizer deal would mean Israel became “the first country in the world to emerge from the coronavirus”.

    In a separate development, Israel’s coronavirus czar has said people will no longer have to self-isolate after being exposed to someone who tests positive if a week has elapsed since they got the second dose of the vaccine.

    Other experts have said not enough information is available to determine whether getting a vaccine will prevent someone from spreading the virus that causes Covid-19 to other people.

    BBC Link


  • Advertisement
  • #7567
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Is swab data today what is reported tomorrow, more or less?

    More or less yes (I think).


  • #7568
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    Israel data will be used in real-time and available as they roll it out. It is part of the deal made with Pfizer to track everything.



    BBC Link

    We should offer this to get early supplies of Astra Zeneca


  • #7569
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    12 of 14 nuns in an enclosed order in Wexford have tested positive.


  • #7570
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    5000 cases amongst HCWs un less than a week :(

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1351602903841124354?s=19


  • #7571
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    5000 cases amongst HCWs un less than a week :(

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1351602903841124354?s=19

    Wow that's some figure unfortunately

    Take the 17th of January

    940 hcws

    2944 total cases

    30% of cases that day were hcws


  • Advertisement
  • #7572
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Gael23 wrote: »
    12 of 14 nuns in an enclosed order in Wexford have tested positive.

    Jeez you'd fear only time before the other 2 gets it


  • #7573
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    The number is shocking if taken in isolation. What I mean is a couple of days where we've had low numbers means where going to get days like today when we get hit with a big number unfortunately. We are likely in for another few weeks of these high figures. RIP to the 93.


  • #7574
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Wow that's some figure unfortunately

    Take the 17th of January

    940 hcws

    2944 total cases

    30% of cases that day were hcws

    Think it was similar in the first wave 30 of positive cases were HCW

    You'd expect it to be lower now surely given that we are testing far more, but perhaps not


  • #7575
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Stheno wrote: »
    5000 cases amongst HCWs un less than a week :(

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1351602903841124354?s=19
    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Wow that's some figure unfortunately

    Take the 17th of January

    940 hcws

    2944 total cases

    30% of cases that day were hcws

    Not sure where he's taking the data from. It looks flat for weeks and then just spikes. Almost like delayed reporting. The HCW reports give a more accurate picture:
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19casesinhealthcareworkers/HCW_report_12%2001%202021_1.1%20website_final.pdf


  • #7576
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Stheno wrote: »
    Think it was similar in the first wave 30 of positive cases were HCW

    You'd expect it to be lower now surely given that we are testing far more, but perhaps not

    The bulk of testing at the moment is symptomatic cases and HCWs. When serialised testing and community testing resumes the proportion of HCWs should reduce. Right now they're partly a proxy for both infection in the health care setting and the wider community.


  • #7577
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The bulk of testing at the moment is symptomatic cases and HCWs. When serialised testing and community testing resumes the proportion of HCWs should reduce. Right now they're partly a proxy for both infection in the health care setting and the wider community.

    I often wondered if the HSE ever looked at utilising the sealed breathing units you see on news from other countries to try reduce the rate, but don't know if that's proven


  • #7578
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Stheno wrote: »
    Think it was similar in the first wave 30 of positive cases were HCW

    You'd expect it to be lower now surely given that we are testing far more, but perhaps not

    Last HCW report has it at 7.9% of all cases between Dec 27 and Jan 9 where in HCW's (5019/63692). Also worth remembering 5% of the population is considered a HCW.


  • #7579
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Stheno wrote: »
    5000 cases amongst HCWs un less than a week :(

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1351602903841124354?s=19
    Going to sound a bit like a soon to be former US president when I say this so go easy on me but the percentage is partly reflective of current testing policy.

    HCWs are being tested as part of surveillance programmes in nursing homes, in outbreak settings in hospitals, as close contacts (inside and outside of work) and not just those who are symptomatic like in the general population at the moment. Therefore, testing will capture more cases among HCWs than in general population. Hopefully lots of them completely asymptomatic or only mild and some are benefitting from having the first dose of vaccine.

    It is still a crazy number but with the incidence being so high and with more testing among HCWs, it’s really not that unexpected. Maybe we should ask our people to ‘slow the testing down, please’.


  • #7580
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    19-01-2021-p1.jpg
    19-01-2021-p2.jpg
    19-01-2021-p3.jpg
    19-01-2021-p4.jpg
    19-01-2021-p5.jpg
    19-01-2021-p6.jpg
    19-01-2021-p7.jpg


  • #7581
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    -66 admissions, looks like 21 deaths in hospital the past 24 hours


  • Advertisement
  • #7582
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Leave it go Van.
    The singer-songwriter Van Morrison will challenge the Northern Irish government in court over its “blanket ban” on live music in licensed venues arising from coronavirus restrictions, his lawyer said Tuesday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/19/coronavirus-live-news-independent-pandemic-panel-critical-of-china-and-who-california-urges-pause-to-moderna-vaccine


  • #7583
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Vaccine isnt anywhere near as good as claimed.

    Plus major doubts that it will work against mutations.


    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-virus-czar-says-1st-dose-less-effective-than-pfizer-indicated-report/



    Israel’s coronavirus czar Nachman Ash has reportedly said the first dose of Pfizer’s vaccine provides less protection against COVID-19 than the US pharmaceutical firm had initially indicated it would, and cautioned that it may not protect against new strains of the virus.

    There was a thread recently about a Spanish nursing home where 50 or 60 residents were infected 8 days after their first jab
    Only 3 hospitalisations out of the group, without vaccine it would have been 20+deaths and more hospitalisations. And that was only after one round of vaccine!
    Of course it works well. nobody ever said the vaccine will be perfect, some will be too frail to get it, it doesn't stop sypmtoms in everybody, a minute number will evenhave a bad reaction etc..But it will save a lot of lives.


  • #7584
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Stheno wrote: »
    Think it was similar in the first wave 30 of positive cases were HCW

    You'd expect it to be lower now surely given that we are testing far more, but perhaps not
    Testing more HCWs but less of general population at the moment. HCWs accounted for 8.2% of total cases between August 4th and December 19th. Of all cases before June 27th, it was around 31.9%.


  • #7585
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    majcos wrote: »
    Testing more HCWs but less of general population at the moment. HCWs accounted for 8.2% of total cases between August 4th and December 19th. Of all cases before June 27th, it was around 31.9%.

    Be interesting to see if the vaccines have a good impact in the next couple of months

    Must be a huge relief to be getting it


  • #7586
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Stheno wrote: »
    -66 admissions, looks like 21 deaths in hospital the past 24 hours

    Epi reporting on deaths is all over the place and they have this on their reports now
    Due to the surge in COVID-19 cases in recent days, the availability of surveillance data is limited. Consequently, HPSC is currently producing an abridged version of the 14 day report.

    Their latest report did have some very limited data.
    Between the 04/01/2021 and 17/01/2021
    6 25-54
    10 55-64
    37 65-74
    77 75-84
    85 85+
    215 Total


  • #7587
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    90 deaths today. Was Christmas worth it?


  • #7588
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    90 deaths today. Was Christmas worth it?

    Any new material?


  • #7589
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Leave it go Van.



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jan/19/coronavirus-live-news-independent-pandemic-panel-critical-of-china-and-who-california-urges-pause-to-moderna-vaccine

    As I've seen other people say, don't remember him writing protest songs during civil rights era or Troubles but when something affects his profits he's out with a song. And he'd be in a lot better position than other artists. Sure he can still do online ticketed gigs like lots of artists have done. I'm sure he could afford to pay someone to set it up like. :rolleyes:


  • #7590
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Today, UK reached a record death toll too, of 1,610.

    Equivalent of 65 in Ireland or 4,327 in US.

    As we know, our unfortunate toll today of 93 is not a daily figure.

    These are insane numbers of people dying from a single illness :(


  • Advertisement
  • #7591
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Any new material?

    It’s getting fairly old isn’t it


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement