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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #7412
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Nowhere near as high as they are now IIRC. It looks like cases will have fallen significantly by the end of January, but you can't make any assumptions with this virus.

    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.


  • #7413
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gael23 wrote: »
    1610 deaths in the UK

    Cases are falling significantly and consistently, and the R rate in London and the SE is estimated at 0.6. But I suspect deaths will continue to rise for a while.


  • #7414
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.

    Why is every other country saying they’re a material driver of infections and keeping them closed?


  • #7415
    Mike3549
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.

    But what about hospitals and ICUs? Last time there were only 30-40 people in icu, and now???


    Edit: its tuesday, cases always lower on tuesdays, there will be more than 2-2.5k cases for the next couple of days


  • #7416
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why is every other country saying they’re a material driver of infections and keeping them closed?
    "every other country" is not. The response varies from country to country.

    Nevertheless, we know from our experience that open schools are not a material driver of infections. I'm not sure why we would use generalised international data to make decisions when our local specific data is available.


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  • #7417
    IrishStuff09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    Always_Running wrote: »
    I see yesterdays 1910 positive swabs is now changed to 1877.

    Yep. They've been revising some previous day's figures recently whenever they upload new data


  • #7418
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It really needs to be carefully fleshed out how it would be used, especially on personal data and how those who can't or won't get vaccinated would be treated. It has the looks of a backdoor mandatory vaccination, when we are all doing it voluntarily.

    I guess on personal data someone would probably need to consent but guess it's basically a verification of the card people get when they get vaccinated anyway and not revealing any personal/medical information besides fact that someone has been vaccinated.

    Yeah it depends what it would be used for, could be that countries will request one to enter the country say. Don't know will it come down to someone still having the choice to be vaccinated or not but could be restricted in what they could do as a result so could be tricky.


  • #7419
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why is every other country saying they’re a material driver of infections and keeping them closed?

    Every other country keeping them closed :D. Yeah right.

    Ronan Glynn said in the presser the other day (possibly friday) that schools are safe. Its the movement if people that they don't want. 1 million people bringing/collecting their kids. If nos are lower than october peak when schools were kept open i personally think they should open.


  • #7420
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.

    But hospitals and ICU will still be under significant pressure. That is the problem. We need to give it a couple more weeks into February.


  • #7421
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Yes - latest analysis from Seamus Coffey here. We are about 30 deaths per day above average at the moment.

    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1351515190492332033

    Is that discounting the deaths caused due to normal activities compared to lockdowns now?


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  • #7422
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Mike3549 wrote: »
    But what about hospitals and ICUs? Last time there were only 30-40 people in icu, and now???


    Edit: its tuesday, cases always lower on tuesdays, there will be more than 2-2.5k cases for the next couple of days

    But if its safe like Nephet say it it. Sure it won't effect ICUs

    I know its Tuesday. The point still stands. By 1st of Feb I'd be amazed if there are over 1k cases a day


  • #7423
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Every other country keeping them closed :D. Yeah right.

    Ronan Glynn said in the presser the other day (possibly friday) that schools are safe. Its the movement if people that they don't want. 1 million people bringing/collecting their kids. If nos are lower than october peak when schools were kept open i personally think they should open.

    On Glynn's point, he can't say they are safe if the means of getting the kids there and the movement of people that involves isn't safe. They go hand in hand.


  • #7424
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.

    Just to say, we didn't have the UK or SA variants around back then.


  • #7425
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    brick tamland wrote: »
    But if its safe like Nephet say it it. Sure it won't effect ICUs

    I know its Tuesday. The point still stands. By 1st of Feb I'd be amazed if there are over 1k cases a day

    That's a big if though. I hope your correct on the case Numbers have a good feeling we won't be far of there myself.


  • #7426
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It really needs to be carefully fleshed out how it would be used, especially on personal data and how those who can't or won't get vaccinated would be treated. It has the looks of a backdoor mandatory vaccination, when we are all doing it voluntarily.

    There’s a lot of detail to be worked out, sure, but bring it on. I have no time at all for people that won’t take the vaccine. If there is a medical reason for not being able to take it, then I’m sure that can be certified appropriately


  • #7427
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Say that will be a short meeting tbh.

    https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1351565616906457089


  • #7428
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    brick tamland wrote: »
    Ireland had almost 1300 cases a day in peak in October and schools were kept open and the cases still dropped like a stone

    Likely to announce circa 1700 cases today, looking at the growth in 13 days, Ireland will have significantly less than the October peak by the time the schools are due to open.

    We were also testing close cantacts. If close contacts were being tested the number would be higher


  • #7429
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Just to say, we didn't have the UK or SA variants around back then.

    Or vaccines hadn't started so government may be reluctant to ease some restrictions. I think government will try to open schools as soon as possible though, talk of 1st Feb already. Whether that's best thing to do on public health grounds is another question


  • #7430
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Or vaccines hadn't started so government may be reluctant to ease some restrictions. I think government will try to open schools as soon as possible though, talk of 1st Feb already. Whether that's best thing to do on public health grounds is another question

    Yeah lots of things to balance although we are a bit of yet for the vaccine roll out to have that effect.


  • #7431
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    1st 2nd does happening. In a way that was a quick 3 weeks but also somehow dragged too

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1351573272413020161


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  • #7432
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Yeah lots of things to balance although we are a bit of yet for the vaccine roll out to have that effect.

    Yup, think government will try and have as many people vaccinated while restrictions are in place and maybe makes it a bit easier to justify extending them when people have hope of vaccines in the near future


  • #7433
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,182 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say that will be a short meeting tbh.

    https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1351565616906457089

    No surprises there so

    ''The Government is expected to complete a review of the current Covid-19 restrictions at next Tuesday's Cabinet meeting.

    The current restrictions run until January 31st but look certain to be extended.''


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0119/1190766-restrictions-review/


  • #7434
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    seamus wrote: »
    "every other country" is not. The response varies from country to country.

    Nevertheless, we know from our experience that open schools are not a material driver of infections. I'm not sure why we would use generalised international data to make decisions when our local specific data is available.

    Our specific local data is based on pretending that there are few close contacts when cases arise in Irisih schools and that if there are knock on cases in famiilies people must have caught it somewhere - anywhere at all -else


  • #7435
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    frank8211 wrote: »
    Our specific local data is based on pretending that there are few close contacts when cases arise in Irisih schools and that if there are knock on cases in famiilies people must have caught it somewhere - anywhere at all -else

    It’s akin to saying that there are only, what was it, 2% of cases due to travel


  • #7436
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,269 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Eod100 wrote: »
    1st 2nd does happening. In a way that was a quick 3 weeks but also somehow dragged too

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1351573272413020161

    In about 2 weeks, I want a photo of Annie lynch sitting at her table, in her local, with a pint of carlsberg in front of her, and I want it to be the front page of every paper in the country.

    It'd be the perfect pick me up for the country.....


  • #7437
    oceanman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭oceanman


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say that will be a short meeting tbh.

    https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1351565616906457089
    cant see the teachers being too happy with that...


  • #7438
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It’s akin to saying that there are only, what was it, 2% of cases due to travel


    Never believed that. The whole thing is due to travel!


  • #7439
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Never believed that. The whole thing is due to travel!

    That’s my point. Saying it’s not transmitted in schools is the same principle


  • #7440
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    91 million deal for GPs and pharmacists to administer the vaccines.
    Disgraceful €60 per head. Ridiculous fee.
    If this is a National emergency they should be told their administrating the vaccine or their licence to practice will be withdrawn.

    This on top of a €30 fee for every person they’ve referred for a test.

    It’s a great little country we’re living in.


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  • #7441
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Great to see today's figures. We seem to have hit a peak hospital and ICU. Should be in a much better position come the end of January.


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