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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #7142
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    It is a wake up call.

    The COVID obsession must end.

    People are mortal, we all will have our day and perpetuating this misery for any longer is not fair on our people

    We need to re-brand this virus and stop the fear

    It is a damned awful thing but retweeting on twitter about a 26yr old succombing to the virus and telling us all to stay in our rooms because that could be us is just sickening..

    why not retweet every unfortunate case that got a bad bit of luck and got a terrible disease, life would be bloody miserable focusing on the bad stuff.

    So we'll free up the hospitals for regular business, and anyone who needs a bit of oxygen or whatever due to covid can just **** off and die.

    Interesting plan


  • #7143
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭Polar101


    BringBackMick wrote: »

    We need to re-brand this virus and stop the fear

    We could call it Covid-:) ,then it would be less scary.

    Or we could try and pretend there's no pandemic, but that would be pretty stupid, wouldn't it?


  • #7144
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    I'd love to fast forward 30 years when posters are in their 70s and see if their opinion changes

    'we are all mortal'

    Same amount of people die of flu

    Our economy bla bla bla


  • #7145
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Oh sorry, let's get back to scoldng our fellow men and women for wanting to meet their friends over Christmas.

    The whole thing is bonkers and history will not look well on those who implemented draconian measures on their people

    You are proposing we Bolsonaro the hell out of this. I am not on board with that.


  • #7146
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Was just off the phone with an uncle who works in Letterkenny General

    He tells me the whole things has been blown out of proportion.

    He says that the only issue is that staff are isolating and thus numbers are down.

    As regards patient number, there is no increase on last year and the COVID is a bad respiratory illness but akin to a bad flu.

    It's mostly killing the old and ailing and of course some people die young just like the normal flu.

    He told me that it is the usual types looking for attention going to the press and moaning as usual

    We've twice as many people in ICU with covid at the moment as we admissions with flu in an average flu season. We have twice as many people in hospital with covid at the moment as we have in hospital with flu in an average flu season.

    A flu season is 4 or 5 months.

    You need to get over this bad flu ****. We have bent over backwards to suppress covid and we still have numbers twice as bad as entire flu season at the moment.

    We've had days with almost as many covid deaths than we would in full season.


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  • #7147
    PO!NT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭PO!NT


    Are health care workers who work in nursing homes tested on a daily bases?


  • #7148
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    PO!NT wrote: »
    Are health care workers who work in nursing homes tested on a daily based?

    No.

    There is mass testing for them but I think it's every week or every fortnight rather than every day. It resumed last week after being suspended for a period.


  • #7149
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Did your hospital have ICU capacity this time last year? Most hospitals can turn critical wards into the equiv of ICU . Staffing is an issue though but that is a different topic

    Well operations were going on etc last year. ICU is generally always quite full but we usually don’t have to cancel everything else in the hospital because of one illness. Occasionally if there is massive pressure electives can be cancelled but it is exceedingly rare where I work. At the moment we are full with no elective surgery apart from some critical cancer surgery and emergency surgery. We have no day cases in most specialities, very limited in person clinics.

    Also keep in mind that people are reluctant to come to ED again, so people are sitting at home when they would have come in before. ED attendances outside of covid are down considerably.

    Even after all this is considered ICU is filling up with one illness.

    Ultimately there is a once in a lifetime surge in one specific illness and it’s difficult. You can have whatever opinions you think are right and that’s cool, but this is challenging. We have flu every year and at times it can be tough, but its not like this.


  • #7150
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Was just off the phone with an uncle who works in Letterkenny General

    He tells me the whole things has been blown out of proportion.

    He says that the only issue is that staff are isolating and thus numbers are down.

    As regards patient number, there is no increase on last year and the COVID is a bad respiratory illness but akin to a bad flu.

    It's mostly killing the old and ailing and of course some people die young just like the normal flu.

    He told me that it is the usual types looking for attention going to the press and moaning as usual
    BringBackMick wrote: »
    It is a wake up call.

    The COVID obsession must end.

    People are mortal, we all will have our day and perpetuating this misery for any longer is not fair on our people

    We need to re-brand this virus and stop the fear

    It is a damned awful thing but retweeting on twitter about a 26yr old succombing to the virus and telling us all to stay in our rooms because that could be us is just sickening..

    why not retweet every unfortunate case that got a bad bit of luck and got a terrible disease, life would be bloody miserable focusing on the bad stuff.

    Mod

    You will be an old person at some stage. Would you like someone to be speaking as blasé about you.

    COVID is not the only show in town, but it is the one that is causing resources to be diverted across all hospitals.

    Tone down you attitude, or don't post here. Your choice, or it will be made for you.


  • #7151
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Always amazes me how quick some are to scoff at another posters relaying real life experiences.
    There are a few posters that I've seen mentioning they are hcw's so while Micks uncle may be a porter, he has a far greater insight into the workings of a hospital than the majority of us posting here.


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  • #7152
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    prunudo wrote: »
    Always amazes me how quick some are to scoff at another posters relaying real life experiences.
    There are a few posters that I've seen mentioning they are hcw's so while Micks uncle may be a porter, he has a far greater insight into the workings of a hospital than the majority of us posting here.

    But he hasn't. I know the situation there. You can actually look it up daily yourself. He was posting BS. Look at the situation in that very hospital only a week ago. Sorry, but this "uncle" know s nothing about the stresses the medical staff in Letterkenny are under and have been under for months.


  • #7153
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    But he hasn't. I know the situation there. You can actually look it up daily yourself. He was posting BS. Look at the situation in that very hospital only a week ago. Sorry, but this "uncle" know s nothing about the stresses the medical staff in Letterkenny are under and have been under for months.

    Just because they're not medically trained doesn't mean they don't understand the stresses of the situation. Pretty demeaning attitude tbh.


  • #7154
    Qwertyminger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Qwertyminger


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Norway has vaccinated 42,000 people over 80 with serious health conditions it's hardly surprising a few dozen died during the few weeks since vaccinations began. Although I find it strange that UK which has administered millions of vaccines has apparently not reported any similar number of deaths after vaccine? Why would it just be Norway?

    Someone died in France after getting it as well, but nothing to see here


  • #7155
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    manniot2 wrote: »
    Censorship typical of the whole covid debate.

    Mod:

    Another breach of your threadban - Forum banned for a month

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #7156
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Was just off the phone with an uncle who works in Letterkenny General

    He tells me the whole things has been blown out of proportion.

    He says that the only issue is that staff are isolating and thus numbers are down.

    As regards patient number, there is no increase on last year and the COVID is a bad respiratory illness but akin to a bad flu.

    It's mostly killing the old and ailing and of course some people die young just like the normal flu.

    He told me that it is the usual types looking for attention going to the press and moaning as usual

    I suppose your uncle doesn't want to frighten you when you're still only in primary school, being protective;)


  • #7157
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Is this a joke? When have i ever disrespected older people? You are totally out of line with this reply.

    I will be reporting your post. Disgraceful, I am offering a fairly level headed different opinion on matters and I have never said anything insulting or out of line.

    You are a disgrace and should be removed as a MOD

    Mod:

    Don't post in this thread again

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #7158
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    prunudo wrote: »
    Just because they're not medically trained doesn't mean they don't understand the stresses of the situation. Pretty demeaning attitude tbh.

    He said they were under no more pressure than in a flu year. That is patently untrue.

    I don't give a toss what this "uncle's" qualifications are or aren't. The post was a load of nonsense that doesn't stand up to what any doctor or nurse in Letterkenny will attest to. For goodness sake, even keeping half an eye on the news will show you the s....storm that has hit Letterkenny.

    Do you honestly believe they are under no more pressure than any other winter? The same poster then bemoans the cancellation of other treatments and therapies. Do you think they're cancelled because the hospital just wants to take things easy?


  • #7159
    brookers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    But he hasn't. I know the situation there. You can actually look it up daily yourself. He was posting BS. Look at the situation in that very hospital only a week ago. Sorry, but this "uncle" know s nothing about the stresses the medical staff in Letterkenny are under and have been under for months.

    I dont think schools have ever closed down for a bad flu. Snow yes, bad storm yes....flu???? i dont think so. Personally I would not like to be a nurse or a doctor at the moment, they look so shattered. The ambulance workers must be the same, wonder why they were treating people in them outside letterkenny hospital, if its a party atmosphere in there....Rip Nigel Pim, 50 year old Samaritans volunteer.


  • #7160
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    But he hasn't. I know the situation there. You can actually look it up daily yourself. He was posting BS. Look at the situation in that very hospital only a week ago. Sorry, but this "uncle" know s nothing about the stresses the medical staff in Letterkenny are under and have been under for months.

    Of course they are under pressure we know that but stop with the exaggeration, they have had a normal few months before Christmas and out of interest what has changed in a week that they were treating people in ambulances last week and coping this week, shouldn't it have got worse.


  • #7161
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    He said they were under no more pressure than in a flu year. That is patently untrue.

    I don't give a toss what this "uncle's" qualifications are or aren't. The post was a load of nonsense that doesn't stand up to what any doctor or nurse in Letterkenny will attest to. For goodness sake, even keeping half an eye on the news will show you the s....storm that has hit Letterkenny.

    Do you honestly believe they are under no more pressure than any other winter? The same poster then bemoans the cancellation of other treatments and therapies. Do you think they're cancelled because the hospital just wants to take things easy?

    I've no reason to believe him any less than any other poster. It's an anonymous site, we have to take what people say at face value, whether the story came from the porter, the head surgeon or the janitor. They all work in the hospital and all see whats happening day in day out. They talk among colleagues, patients. To think that they don't understand the stresses is wrong.
    Now maybe you've crossed paths before and I'm niave but as I said, I've no reason to doubt him more than anyone else.


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  • #7162
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Was just off the phone with an uncle who works in Letterkenny General

    He tells me the whole things has been blown out of proportion.

    He says that the only issue is that staff are isolating and thus numbers are down.

    As regards patient number, there is no increase on last year and the COVID is a bad respiratory illness but akin to a bad flu.

    It's mostly killing the old and ailing and of course some people die young just like the normal flu.

    He told me that it is the usual types looking for attention going to the press and moaning as usual

    Letterkenny University Hospital had 113 cases with five confirmed Covid cases in ICU out of their full total of five ICU beds as of 8pm last night. They have opened a new ward since the start of the Covid pandemic and cancelled all elective surgeries, day case procedures and outpatient clinics and yet the hospital still had ambulances queuing at the door last weekend.

    Ireland had 2020 cases of Covid in hospital this morning alone and 7310 people with Covid have been in hospital up to January 10th. This compares to 4332 hospitalised with influenza in last 12 month influenza season.

    There was 200 people in ICU this morning with Covid and there has been 761 people admitted to ICU up to January 10th. This compares to 154 people admitted to ICU with influenza in the entire influenza season 2019/2020. Oxygen flow is under pressure in some hospitals as so many patients are on oxygen and non invasive ventilation. I have never heard this mentioned before during any influenza season.

    As per the latest 14 day incidence report, 43% of those admitted are under 65 years so it is not just affecting the old and ailing. Fewer of this under 65 age group are dying but to end up in hospital on oxygen is definitely not a trivial event.


  • #7163
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Of course they are under pressure we know that but stop with the exaggeration, they have had a normal few months before Christmas and out of interest what has changed in a week that they were treating people in ambulances last week and coping this week, shouldn't it have got worse.

    The reason for all the ambulances was that they ran out of emergency department beds, so they were triaging using ambulances.

    I assume they increased their ED bed numbers to avoid it happening again.
    They have seen little to no relief from the surge since then. They're basically at capacity for regular beds and have zero capacity for ICU.


  • #7164
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    prunudo wrote: »
    It's an anonymous site, we have to take what people say at face value.

    You're accusing us of being demeaning towards porters, but you might want to lay off the porter yourself.


  • #7165
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,080 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    The reason for all the ambulances was that they ran out of emergency department beds, so they were triaging using ambulances.

    I assume they increased their ED bed numbers to avoid it happening again.
    They have seen little to no relief from the surge since then. They're basically at capacity for regular beds and have zero capacity for ICU.

    And they did this by having to reduce/cancel non-urgent treatment.


    People trying to complaining about covid being exagerrated because hospitals arent overrun yet AND complain about cancer screening etc. being affected are severely detached from reality.

    Nearly a year into this and some still dont get the basics.


  • #7166
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭prunudo


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    You're accusing us of being demeaning towards porters, but you might want to lay off the porter yourself.

    Not enough of it these days, open the pubs!


  • #7167
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    prunudo wrote: »
    Not enough of it these days, open the pubs!

    Never.


  • #7168
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    The reason for all the ambulances was that they ran out of emergency department beds, so they were triaging using ambulances.

    I assume they increased their ED bed numbers to avoid it happening again.
    They have seen little to no relief from the surge since then. They're basically at capacity for regular beds and have zero capacity for ICU.

    Listen I'm not saying it's not serious but it always seems to be on the edge, always on the brink of collapse. Cork had no icu beds back in December when we had 30 something in icu, can someone tell me how cork had capacity now when things are 6 or 7 times worse off. We both know hospitals will get through this.


  • #7169
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,731 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Never.


    Use the pubs as vaccination centres! A pint after your shot.


  • #7170
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Use the pubs as vaccination centres! A pint after your shot.

    Maybe, but I'm sorry we'd have to insist on a €9 meal also.


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  • #7171
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    According to this, the average stay in a nursing home is 2 years. One would imagine that, sadly, the only way you leave a nursing home is by passing away. This would mean that 50% of nursing home residents die every year.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/fewer-older-people-opt-for-nursing-home-care-37534589.html
    20% die in the first three months according to an Irish study on nursing home residents done about ten years ago. 7% within a month, 27% by six months, 34% by one year and 53% were deceased after two years.

    Cannot provide link to Irish data as I only have a paper copy of report but similar findings in other countries.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6143238/

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40520-019-01441-x


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