Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

1…225226228230231…333

Comments

  • #6812
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Eivor wrote: »
    I know the excuse being used is that the vial has to be used up within a certain amount of time but can they not make sure the 5(?) people who are supposed to be vaccinated from that vial are in the room before the vial is prepared?

    The two kids just happened to be walking past the clinic at the time


  • #6813
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    If they can provide a valid business/medical case for it there's really less of an issue as it uses up doses, no matter how agitated people get. TBH the sooner we get out of hospitals and HCW sector with their decision making the better.

    Oh I'm sure it was very easy to provide a business case for it.


  • #6814
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Lemonzero wrote: »
    Few articles in Irish times about covid positive patients saying they they think they got covid in supermarket as were no where else We go there up to 2 times a week (main shop online)if we need something as 3 small kids but making sure its very quiet and always follow guidelines re masks and sanitisation. Anyone else feel they got.covid from shops or feel its unsafe?
    .

    Those articles spooked me too, supermarket is pretty much the only place I go now. The worst was the woman who contracted the virus from the guy dropping off shopping inside her porch. If that's all it takes we're all doomed...


  • #6815
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    lawred2 wrote: »
    The two kids just happened to be walking past the clinic at the time

    From what I have heard they are not kids but but college age and they are both the children of the the master of the Coombe which is the bigger issue.


  • #6816
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Those articles spooked me too, supermarket is pretty much the only place I go now. The worst was the woman who contracted the virus from the guy dropping off shopping inside her porch. If that's all it takes we're all doomed...

    Do you have a Link to that Article please ?

    We are not going into shops at all but are getting Deliveries.


  • Advertisement
  • #6817
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    rosiem wrote: »
    From what I have heard they are not kids but but college age and they are both the children of the the master of the Coombe which is the bigger issue.

    I read somewhere that they both work (part-time?) in the hospital?


  • #6818
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Eivor wrote: »
    I know the excuse being used is that the vial has to be used up within a certain amount of time but can they not make sure the 5(?) people who are supposed to be vaccinated from that vial are in the room before the vial is prepared?

    Two things.

    Sometimes a vial will make 5 doses. Usually it will make 6m sometimes it will make 7.

    Theres storage problems in the fridge too. I think you have 12 hours to dilute the vaccine after its stored in a fridge then a further 12 hours to administer the vaccine.

    Some hospitals are taking the vaccine into a fridge on delivery which means they are time limited.


  • #6819
    Purple Papillon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭Purple Papillon


    Lemonzero wrote: »
    Few articles in Irish times about covid positive patients saying they they think they got covid in supermarket as were no where else We go there up to 2 times a week (main shop online)if we need something as 3 small kids but making sure its very quiet and always follow guidelines re masks and sanitisation. Anyone else feel they got.covid from shops or feel its unsafe?
    .

    I think the supermarkets should be relatively safe so long as you breeze around the aisles and stop stop for a chat if you see someone you know. Keep the distance away from others in the shop and at the checkout.

    The hygiene and manners from some of the public is appalling. We are nearly a year into this mess and some people still don't know how to behave. Some people taking off their mask to cough or sneeze into the open. No attempt to conceal the germs into their elbow. No respect for themselves or for others. It's unfortunate. We are all at the mercy from others and rely on others to do the right thing and that's not happening from everybody.


  • #6820
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Which private hospital(s)? There was representative on from the Hermitage last week (Wednesday I think) to say the majority of private hospitals had received no private vaccines whatsoever particularly in Dublin

    I know a private hospital in Cork that has got it so some definitely have anyway. They got theirs around the 7th/8th of January so I'd assume most of the larger private hospitals would have got theirs by now.


  • #6821
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Do you have a Link to that Article please ?

    We are not going into shops at all but are getting Deliveries.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/irish-gps-fighting-third-wave-covid-on-the-front-line-of-the-world-s-worst-outbreak-1.4458430?mode=amp
    He cites a typical example of a patient living alone and having her shopping delivered by a neighbour to inside her door, as an example of how infectious the virus can be. “The vulnerable person is sitting inside the porch four or five metres away. The person who’s delivering the shopping drops it inside the porch. They’re asymptomatic. And the vulnerable person catches it. I’ve heard loads of those kinds of stories.”

    Should point out that this is from a GP in Belmullet, which seems to be global covid central ATM...


  • Advertisement
  • #6822
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    I read somewhere that they both work (part-time?) in the hospital?

    More evidence of nepotism?


  • #6823
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Those articles spooked me too, supermarket is pretty much the only place I go now. The worst was the woman who contracted the virus from the guy dropping off shopping inside her porch. If that's all it takes we're all doomed...

    I have little doubt that people get it in super markets. We have to goto supermarkets so there was no need to cause panic by stating a simple fact that there is transmission in these places. I think of it like schools where the narrative being peddled is that schools are special environments where the virus doesn’t spread.

    I understand why these narratives have been pushed but I don’t let it fool me into thinking there’s any less a risk for me in the shops because they don’t say it. But also I do not let it scare me. You can get the virus a lot more ways then this but all I try to do is generally reduce my exposure to getting it. I goto the shops less now, try to order online and if I do have to shop I do it off peak or when it’s quiet.


  • #6824
    hopgirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭hopgirl


    Lemonzero wrote: »
    Few articles in Irish times about covid positive patients saying they they think they got covid in supermarket as were no where else We go there up to 2 times a week (main shop online)if we need something as 3 small kids but making sure its very quiet and always follow guidelines re masks and sanitisation. Anyone else feel they got.covid from shops or feel its unsafe?
    .

    My friend got covid but she doesn't know where she got it as she wasn't out mixing with people. The only place she went to was to the shop to get food. In saying that people that have covid is still going into shops 🙁😡


  • #6825
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    I dunno - it just does not get me riled up. 0.01% of vaccines administered that day were given out in the end to family of hospital employees as they had to be used. They are hardly going to canvas on the local street when there are leftovers. If it was 5% or 1% I might get a bit flustered. But 16 out of 1100 doses just does not push my buttons. I would certainly not like to see highly qualified professionals lose their job or have to squirm overly much to satisfy some kind of cancel culture.
    Ps I know no one in these hospitals. And me or my family are not due in line till early summer of 2022. Which suits me fine as I can monitor the human trials :)

    Edited later with correct maths. Ummm


  • #6826
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    hopgirl wrote: »
    My friend got covid but she doesn't know where she got it as she wasn't out mixing with people. The only place she went to was to the shop to get food. In saying that people that have covid is still going into shops 🙁😡

    Dont forget that lots of people dont know they have it...


  • #6827
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I dunno - it just does not get me riled up. 0.01% of vaccines administered that day were given out in the end to family of hospital employees as they had to be used. They are hardly going to canvas on the local street when there are leftovers. If it was 5% or 1% I might get a bit flustered. But 16 out of 1100 doses just does not push my buttons. I would certainly not like to see highly qualified professionals lose their job or have to squirm overly much to satisfy some kind of cancel culture.
    Ps I know no one in these hospitals. And me or my family are not due in line till early summer of 2022. Which suits me fine as I can monitor the human trials :)

    This is what I was saying earlier, it was either the bin or into someones arm.

    Those who think that not a single group 3 should get them before all group 1 & 2 dont understand logistics, the only way to achieve this would be a single vaccination centre.


  • #6828
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    The optics of the story about the vaccine are pretty ****e, then again if they went to waste it'd be a scandal as well. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


  • #6829
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    And me or my family are not due in line till early summer of 2022. Which suits me fine as I can monitor the human trials :)

    I thought everyone was supposed to be done by September this year:confused:


  • #6830
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Hospitals are organising themselves.

    Well that makes sense. It is going to be rough to have a hoard of separate reserve lists and ensuring they don't have issues with people who can get there or double booked etc.

    Though I guess it means anyone to do with those hospitals have been vaccined which is good news.

    Maybe we need a centralised list of people who know they are "on call" and should be ready to drop what they are doing and rush in if required but given the small numbers that may be more admin than actual benefit.


  • #6831
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I thought everyone was supposed to be done by September this year:confused:

    We'll be sipping cocktails by the pool come September


  • Advertisement
  • #6832
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I dunno - it just does not get me riled up. 0.01% of vaccines administered that day were given out in the end to family of hospital employees as they had to be used. They are hardly going to canvas on the local street when there are leftovers. If it was 5% or 1% I might get a bit flustered. But 16 out of 1100 doses just does not push my buttons. I would certainly not like to see highly qualified professionals lose their job or have to squirm overly much to satisfy some kind of cancel culture.
    Ps I know no one in these hospitals. And me or my family are not due in line till early summer of 2022. Which suits me fine as I can monitor the human trials :)

    Eh. Whoops. 1.4% still not bovvered all that much..


  • #6833
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    2023 now in hospital with Covid which isn't great. Hopefully we see a reduction soon but it only seems to be climbing


  • #6834
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I thought everyone was supposed to be done by September this year:confused:

    Maybe. Except those of us who will be hiding in the woods. With our clipboards.


  • #6835
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Looking at Covid analyzer website it estimates 13% of people in Ireland have developed some sort of immunity, 30% in Madrid, 61 percent in North Dakota!!

    Worldwide it is only 3percent.


  • #6836
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    hopgirl wrote: »
    My friend got covid but she doesn't know where she got it as she wasn't out mixing with people. The only place she went to was to the shop to get food. In saying that people that have covid is still going into shops 🙁😡

    Yes likely people who are asymptomatic. How are they to know.


  • #6837
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    https://www.thejournal.ie/coombe-vaccinations-stephen-donnelly-5328089-Jan2021/

    Knew stuff like this would happen


  • #6838
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Eivor wrote: »
    I know the excuse being used is that the vial has to be used up within a certain amount of time but can they not make sure the 5(?) people who are supposed to be vaccinated from that vial are in the room before the vial is prepared?

    If 3 show up how long do you want to make them and the staff wait for the other 2? Delaying for the sake of looking proper is silly. Get the vulnerable vaccinated and if there is spare may as well make sure it doesn't go to waste.

    Although it is more likely getting more than guaranteed out of the vials.


  • #6839
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Akabusi wrote: »
    Yes likely people who are asymptomatic. How are they to know.

    It's fairly unbelievable how someone could get it from presumably spending less than a couple of mins near with asymptomatic with both wearing masks and at least some level of social distancing going on.

    Either very very unlucky or more likely being dishonest about what they have done in the past few weeks.


  • #6840
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    There's a bit ofa Hunger Games vibe emerging. 9 of the 16 were over 70. Grand. Job done.


  • Advertisement
  • #6841
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Covid restrictions could extend until May unless numbers decrease, Nphet member warns

    Ireland could be facing public health restrictions until April or May if people do not curtail their movements, a leading medic and member of Nphet has warned.

    Covid adviser to the Irish College of General Practitioners, Dr Mary Favier, has warned that if people do not curtail their movements then restrictions will have to be kept in place until April or May.

    “We are not doing enough, there is still too much movement,” she told Newstalk Breakfast.

    “We have to reduce contacts.”

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40208990.html

    I don't think threatening those that are abiding by restrictions with restrictions into April or May is particularly helpful

    In my own case i'd love to know how you can reduce contacts below the 0 outside my household bubble as it is


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement