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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey



    I seen a report that alluded to UK hospital acquired transmission only accountable for 1 in 4 cases in hospital.

    It’s 1 in 2 in Ireland

    I wonder is that stat with HCW’s seen in other countries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    I seen a report that alluded to other European countries hospital acquired transmission only 1 in 4 patients in UK hospitals acquired it in hospital.

    It’s 1 in 2 in Ireland

    I wonder is that star with HCW’s seen in other countries?

    Probably our fixation on multi bed, open wards. A lot of countries seem to use much more individual wards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    If we had known in March what was going to happen this year and how long this would go on....

    I know . I don’t think we would have coped had we known . It dawned slowly and in dribs and drabs which eased us into it

    I remember picking my grand child up from school the day they closed them in April. In the yard was an errie silence with stunned people . It had just dawned on people what was ahead .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    There's all sorts of data that suggests the majority went on a bit of a mad one.

    Where is that data? I know a lot of people who did not go on a mad one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I know . I don’t think we would have coped had we known . It dawned slowly and in dribs and drabs which eased us into it

    I remember picking my grand child up from school the day they closed them in April. In the yard was an errie silence with stunned people . It had just dawned on people what was ahead .

    Things seemed to be happening at such a bewildering pace.

    I think the concept of thinking about a year down the line was gone out the window. It was hard to picture the next week with certainty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dublin_paul


    Datacore wrote: »
    Approval was ludicrously slow. It’s really hard to see how it could be safely approved in the U.K. and US and several other countries while the EMA seemed to just drag on and on and on.

    Moderna is only been approved this week ffs. It was much much faster in many other markets.

    AstraZeneca, while I appreciate there are issues, is moving at a snails pace through the EMA. To the point that there are already people surmising the U.K. somehow did a a deal to ensure their supply was prioritised.

    You'd probably be one of the first to post in hysterics if the vaccine turned out to be unsafe, blaming the government "We trust these people to keep us safe!!!!11" etc etc.

    Fact is, the development and approval of these vaccines have progressed at lightning speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I know . I don’t think we would have coped had we known . It dawned slowly and in dribs and drabs which eased us into it

    I remember picking my grand child up from school the day they closed them in April. In the yard was an errie silence with stunned people . It had just dawned on people what was ahead .

    Same here. Work sent us home before lockdown and I remember I went back in the next day for my laptop and paper files. As I carried it to my car, I got a text from my college saying all classes were off and things were moving online. The street was already quiet. I remember that exact moment where I thought Jesus this is real...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    If we had known in March what was going to happen this year and how long this would go on....

    Yep, I can remember walking out of work on Fri 13th March and we all thought we’d be seeing each other again in a couple of weeks - how wrong can you be !


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    User142 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1350567645419024384

    UK to bring in Australia type Quarantine hotels. I imagine we will follow suit and maybe finally have something that looks all Ireland (all CTA?) approach to international travel

    He posted that an hour ago and yet there is nothing on the Times website nor any breaking news online about it at all. Find it difficult to believe given that the mandatory PCR tests are only coming on Monday and there has not even been a whisper about this as a possibility. It’ll take a while to introduce as freight by truck will need to be organised appropriately and by the time they’ve done that then most vulnerable people will be vaccinated

    Just looks like kite flying to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I know . I don’t think we would have coped had we known . It dawned slowly and in dribs and drabs which eased us into it

    I remember picking my grand child up from school the day they closed them in April. In the yard was an errie silence with stunned people . It had just dawned on people what was ahead .

    Yes. But really thought that we had it beat by the summer just needed to suppress until the vaccines .
    Went down the country a bit when allowed during the Summer but if I knew what I know now I would have gone away to the sun for a few weeks somewhere .
    But hey if we all did that maybe we'd be where we are a lot sooner ?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    If we had known in March what was going to happen this year and how long this would go on....

    I know this might sound bizarre given you work in Healthcare but I now seriously envy all frontline workers who get t I interact with colleagues face to face

    I also know that's simplistic and cannot imagine the mental strength to go to work as a frontline worker, be it in Health, essential retail or anything that involves meeting people face to face

    When we get out of this, we should have two bank Holidays, one a day of remembrance for those who have died and one to acknowledge those on the frontline who kept people like me who just wfh going
    I still remember a cheery greeting last June from a postwoman, it made my day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Arghus wrote: »
    Things seemed to be happening at such a bewildering pace.

    I think the concept of thinking about a year down the line was gone out the window. It was hard to picture the next week with certainty.

    I was at a funeral on 28th of February . The priest asked us not to shake hands at the sign of peace . We looked at him like he had ten heads .
    Little did we know that wouldn’t dream of shaking hands for at least another year or two .
    No one shook hands in the church that day , they just hugged everyone in sight outside !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    The front page of this week's Sindo says the lockdown could go on past April, schools may be closed until March and hospitality won't be allowed to reopen until the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Kunta Kinte


    This is amazing and fantastic news if true!

    Living with covid was a fantasy without border control. If we follow suit and bring in mandatory controlled quarantining we can control this virus and get back to living.

    That`s a mighty big if. Even if it is implemented will it be enforced? As has been proved there is a sizeable cohort who will try to evade the regulations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Russman wrote: »
    Yep, I can remember walking out of work on Fri 13th March and we all thought we’d be seeing each other again in a couple of weeks - how wrong can you be !

    The pace at which life was suddenly turned completely on its head is what shocked me the most.

    I knew plenty of people who sincerely thought it'd blow over in a couple of weeks, whereas I was gibbering to them like an idiot that they had no idea. Of course some of them eventually freaked out a week or two later when it hit them and at that stage I'd begun to pull myself together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Arghus wrote: »
    Things seemed to be happening at such a bewildering pace.

    I think the concept of thinking about a year down the line was gone out the window. It was hard to picture the next week with certainty.

    Its like living in a Michael Bay movie!

    Anyone else watching Armageddon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I seen a report that alluded to UK hospital acquired transmission only accountable for 1 in 4 cases in hospital.

    It’s 1 in 2 in Ireland

    I wonder is that stat with HCW’s seen in other countries?

    If you read that tweet the person writes under it they made a mistake with the 1 in 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Its like living in a Michael Bay movie!

    Anyone else watching Armageddon?

    I saw the extended version on DVD!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Stheno wrote: »
    Its likely we will have a very phased reopening

    Tbh we probably need it

    I posted last May's timeline for re-opening earlier - seems plausible now a year later!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    I saw the extended version on DVD!

    They had more footage? :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I am actually sorry I didnt keep a diary since day 1. Just jotted down the daily thoughts and how we managed

    Sitting on the road with neighbours miles from each other on fold up chairs with rugs on our knees in April .

    Shouting to grandchildren who were at my gate and singing Happy Birthday

    Throwing a sliced pan over the wall to my neighbour , I had braved the shops to buy bread and milk

    My friend texting me that Supervalu had anti bac wipes in and would she grab me a pack

    Making my own ant bac hand gel with all sorts of concoctions

    Figuring out how to join a zoom call

    Using words we never used before and now part of life .


    Stepping on the road if passing anyone while walking

    And watching films made before Covid and worrying they were far to close to each other

    Christalmighty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    They had more footage? :eek:

    Some films are like that when released on DVD. Another example is 'The Eagle Has Landed'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Stheno wrote: »
    I know this might sound bizarre given you work in Healthcare but I now seriously envy all frontline workers who get t I interact with colleagues face to face

    I also know that's simplistic and cannot imagine the mental strength to go to work as a frontline worker, be it in Health, essential retail or anything that involves meeting people face to face

    When we get out of this, we should have two bank Holidays, one a day of remembrance for those who have died and one to acknowledge those on the frontline who kept people like me who just wfh going
    I still remember a cheery greeting last June from a postwoman, it made my day

    Yes , people are surprisingly resilient .:)

    I know after I was sick in March it was really weird going back and the streets empty , like a scene from" 28days later " with Cillian Murphy .
    I know its different as regards work now and during the year when we had some normality .
    People are exhausted and dispirited , and many of us have been working extra shifts to cover.

    I have kids working in essential retail as well and they are showing distinct signs of pressure and tiredness at this stage , studying online too.
    They have said until now that they prefer to be working but I am a little worried that it is all getting too much now .

    The last weeks since after Christmas have been the worst I have ever experienced.
    People are used to having a busy spell now and again but this sustained level of high pressure and stress is not sustainable .

    What would be nice would be an extra bank holiday as well as a day of remembrance , whenever we do get out of this , which we will .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am actually sorry I didnt keep a diary since day 1. Just jotted down the daily thoughts and how we managed

    Sitting on the road with neighbours miles from each other on fold up chairs with rugs on our knees in April .

    Shouting to grandchildren who were at my gate and singing Happy Birthday

    Throwing a sliced pan over the wall to my neighbour , I had braved the shops to buy bread and milk

    My friend texting me that Supervalu had anti bac wipes in and would she grab me a pack

    Making my own ant bac hand gel with all sorts of concoctions

    Figuring out how to join a zoom call

    Using words we never used before and now part of life .


    Stepping on the road if passing anyone while walking

    And watching films made before Covid and worrying they were far to close to each other

    Christalmighty

    Covid nostalgia.

    Who ever thought it'd come to this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭eastie17


    This is amazing and fantastic news if true!

    Living with covid was a fantasy without border control. If we follow suit and bring in mandatory controlled quarantining we can control this virus and get back to living.
    But why once again will we only do something when the brits do it? We spend half the time scoffing at their handling of COVID and the rest of the time saying”oh well if they’re doing it we better as well”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes , people are surprisingly resilient .:)

    I know after I was sick in March it was really weird going back and the streets empty , like a scene from" 28days later " with Cillian Murphy .
    I know its different as regards work now and during the year when we had some normality .
    People are exhausted and dispirited , and many of us have been working extra shifts to cover.

    I have kids working in essential retail as well and they are showing distinct signs of pressure and tiredness at this stage , studying online too.
    They have said until now that they prefer to be working but I am a little worried that it is all getting too much now .

    The last weeks since after Christmas have been the worst I have ever experienced.
    People are used to having a busy spell now and again but this sustained level of high pressure and stress is not sustainable .

    What would be nice would be an extra bank holiday as well as a day of remembrance , whenever we do get out of this , which we will .

    Independence Day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Arghus wrote: »
    The pace at which life was suddenly turned completely on its head is what shocked me the most.

    I knew plenty of people who sincerely thought it'd blow over in a couple of weeks, whereas I was gibbering to them like an idiot that they had no idea. Of course some of them eventually freaked out a week or two later when it hit them and at that stage I'd begun to pull myself together.

    That's been my continued experience throughout the year.

    There are lags everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Stheno wrote: »
    I know this might sound bizarre given you work in Healthcare but I now seriously envy all frontline workers who get t I interact with colleagues face to face

    I would gladly never interact with work colleagues face to face ever again.

    I miss interaction with friends & family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    I’m just not posting here anymore. I’m too ratty about all of this not to just end up in a textual argument.

    Nothing to do with the people or the discussion. It’s just really really starting to stress me out.

    Apologies if I came across as a bit grumpy. It’s not intended.


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  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I seen a report that alluded to UK hospital acquired transmission only accountable for 1 in 4 cases in hospital.

    It’s 1 in 2 in Ireland

    I wonder is that stat with HCW’s seen in other countries?

    Yes, now that we all know that the relaxations led to the current death/infection rate. Let's blame the front line workers. Easy to hurl from the ditch:rolleyes:


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