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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5132
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Where is the denial?

    If you share the same room as someone for 2 hours or more, even if always 10 metres apart you are deemed a close contact.

    So restaurants and pubs are safe because people are able to eat and drink through their mask? Parallel universe at this stage.


  • #5133
    NH2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    Some positive news from the vaccine thread on our progress through vaccinations.

    https://twitter.com/redouad/status/1349748336404869123


  • #5134
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    What is the craic with this brazilian variant?

    It has Boris very concerned

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55666198


  • #5135
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    "Airborne" is a specific defined term.

    The data so far does not support that covid-19 meets the criteria necessary to define it as being typically airborne.

    An infection not being airborne doesn't mean that it cannot be transmitted through the air between individuals.


  • #5136
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Italy doesn't seem to be reducing infection or death rates at all despite their lockdown. Seem to be at a plateau of 500 deaths a day for 2 weeks now which is pretty shocking.


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  • #5137
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Italy doesn't seem to be reducing infection or death rates at all despite their lockdown. Seem to be at a plateau of 500 deaths a day for 2 weeks now which is pretty shocking.

    That paragraph has an awful deja vu ring to it.


  • #5138
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Looks promising that cases are continuing to lower.

    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1349744354634698757


  • #5139
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So restaurants and pubs are safe because people are able to eat and drink through their mask? Parallel universe at this stage.

    I don't get how anybody said they are safe as you put it. Doesn't everyone sign the book when you arrive in to a restaurant for exactly that, contact tracing if somebody gets covid?

    Restaurants are obviously only able to open when case numbers are very low.

    Still don't get your point.


  • #5140
    [Deleted User]
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    Necro wrote: »
    I was referred (yes, again :( ) today through my GP, rang this morning and got a callback at about 2pm. Test scheduled for 9.30am tomorrow morning. Appointment message is different though, does advise to arrive on time as opposed to early as there is a high volume of appointments.

    Necro :( Do you think you have Covid again?


  • #5141
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Where is the denial?

    If you share the same room as someone for 2 hours or more, even if always 10 metres apart you are deemed a close contact.

    You've been fairly vocal about project fear.......
    It might have got you likes in November and December but hopefully you can see the folly now that hospitals under serious pressure.

    edit:except in a school because magic.

    21-09-2020, 14:05
    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Oh here we go... operation fear gets ratcheted up a few notches tonight then


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  • #5142
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    one armed dwarf wrote: »
    What is the craic with this brazilian variant?

    It has Boris very concerned

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55666198

    The cynical part of me feels like the "new variant" will be the new click driver for online news for the next few months.

    As the vaccine is so close now, the idea that a new variant might scupper the vaccine really plays on people's fears and almost guarantees a click.

    When you actually look into the details, it's generally scientific hypotheticals and vague musings by unqualified people.

    No doubt there is different strains etc but so far there doesn't seem to be hard science saying it will affect a vaccine or even have a more severe reaction. But of course the news sites are running with it anyway.


  • #5143
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    seamus wrote: »
    "Airborne" is a specific defined term.

    The data so far does not support that covid-19 meets the criteria necessary to define it as being typically airborne.

    An infection not being airborne doesn't mean that it cannot be transmitted through the air between individuals.

    Are you a lawyer? That's lawyer speak.

    BTW, a lot of people died from TB here before it was declared as being airborne.

    https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1346199881396969475?s=20


  • #5144
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    You've been fairly vocal about project fear.......
    It might have got you likes in November and December but hopefully you can see the folly now that hospitals under serious pressure.

    21-09-2020, 14:05

    You pulling up an old post and avoiding the question!

    I have said before we opened up too much in December, but hindsight and all that...I was one of the first people to say we needed to tighten up again in December when we saw cases accelerating

    We definitely didn't open up enough last summer and missed a trick there by not allowing our population a breather....

    You win some you lose some.

    You appear incapable of ever admitting being even slightly wrong, oh to be you


  • #5145
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    You pulling up an old post and avoiding the question!

    I have said before we opened up too much in December, but hindsight and all that...I was one of the first people to say we needed to tighten up again in December when we saw cases accelerating

    We definitely didn't open up enough last summer and missed a trick there by not allowing our population a breather....

    You win some you lose some.

    You appear incapable of ever admitting being even slightly wrong, oh to be you

    I'm interested what do you get out of undermining public health advice? Hopefully you don't just do it for kicks.


  • #5146
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    eh? difference of 6822 tests in the 24 hour data compared to the auto 24 hour total


  • #5147
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    eh? difference of 6822 tests in the 24 hour data compared to the auto 24 hour total

    pardon?


  • #5148
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    NH2013 wrote: »
    Some positive news from the vaccine thread on our progress through vaccinations.

    https://twitter.com/redouad/status/1349748336404869123

    Denmark will be done by June, hopefully we can pull out the stops and get it done.

    https://twitter.com/MartinJuhl2/status/1347637020160618498?s=20


  • #5149
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I'm interested what do you get out of undermining public health advice? Hopefully you don't just do it for kicks.

    WTF:eek:

    Health advice was overly draconian all through last summer,

    If you keep telling people to lock down lock down, you are obviously going to get it right some times, just like a stopped clock.

    There is no agility or nuance to their advice. Society cannot lockdown for perpetuity.


  • #5150
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55641670
    The Australian Open will start on 8 February at Melbourne Park, three weeks later than usual, because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Players must test negative before taking one of the 15 chartered flights - which have been put on by tournament organisers and will operate at 25% capacity - to Australia.

    Once they have arrived, they will have to pass a series of Covid tests during a 14-day quarantine in Melbourne before the Grand Slam.

    And then they can't leave their hotel/training area and will only make trips for their games.

    Paranoia on an absolutely whole new level.


  • #5151
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The HSE National Clinical Lead for older people Siobhan Kennelly said that so far in January, 33 deaths out of a total of 73 were in nursing homes.


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  • #5152
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The North's leaders want more cooperation with Dublin regarding a common travel policy.

    It turns out Dublin has ignored pleas by Stormont.

    More and more dripping out making the government looking like a calamity.

    Stephen Donnelly ignored 4 letters sent by the North's Health Minister back in November.

    Shambles.


  • #5153
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    pardon?

    I have a auto total that works out for 24 hours total total minus total yesterday. was -6322 today
    Lot of changes made in the previous days on the dataset downloaded off hub.


  • #5154
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    On airborne. By Jose Luis Jimenez linked above.

    https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/Aerosol-expert-Jose-Luis-Jimenez/99/i1


  • #5155
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    I have a auto total that works out for 24 hours total total minus total yesterday. was -6322 today
    Lot of changes made in the previous days on the dataset downloaded off hub.

    I think Seamus was whinging about this earlier. Nothing quite as drastic as 6322 tests moving around, but he might be able to shed some light.


  • #5156
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I think Seamus was whinging about this earlier. Nothing quite as drastic as 6322 tests moving around, but he might be able to shed some light.

    Probably to do with the inconsistencies between the briefing numbers and the confirmed numbers the following day


  • #5157
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Probably to do with the inconsistencies between the briefing numbers and the confirmed numbers the following day

    maybe another Access database is about to fall over


  • #5158
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    maybe another Access database is about to fall over

    Probably DBase. 12 years older than Access, been around since 79.


  • #5159
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,975 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not shocked, was reported in recent days that they had been asking close contact health workers to return to work before the end of isolation period. That has been happening in some areas since mid December. They had a policy where management were applying a "derogation" where the first swab was negative.

    INMO has made an objection to this derogation.

    Nurses' being pressured by management to return early from restriction as close contacts ,with 'twiceaday temp checks ' by management .

    How this is in any way acceptable when we know that so many are asymptomatic, and are dealing with vulnerable patients and risk infecting them and their colleagues.

    But staffing levels are desperate right now .


  • #5160
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    The North's leaders want more cooperation with Dublin regarding a common travel policy.

    It turns out Dublin has ignored pleas by Stormont.

    More and more dripping out making the government looking like a calamity.

    Stephen Donnelly ignored 4 letters sent by the North's Health Minister back in November.

    Shambles.

    This is the North that has refused to consider restricting movement with Great Britain, or even mandating a negative test.

    I'm not surprised we wouldn't be willing to align with them on that.


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  • #5161
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    maybe another Access database is about to fall over
    spookwoman wrote: »
    Probably DBase. 12 years older than Access, been around since 79.

    I just laughed into my coffee and sent coffee droplets flying. It's so sad that this has the potential to be reality.


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