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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5102
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Sconsey wrote: »
    0.001% change in positive swab numbers from yesterday!

    And nearly 4k more tests.


  • #5103
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    He is. He attends a service and gets educational supports there.

    Then this is nothing to do with him. My boys services are under dept of health not education and i suspect your brother is the same.

    My boy was in last June and some of July and it was absolutely 100% optional.


  • #5104
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Even if the HSE were perfect it'd be very difficult to contain covid within an hospital outbreak. We all know the HSE is far from perfect so outbreaks in the hospital are inevitable and become more and more likely the more pressure on the system. Don't forget too the duration of this pandemic and the accumulated effects of decision fatigue on staff.


  • #5105
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am sure your mum could say your brother was unwell and unable to attend in that case

    My sister (adult) has Special Needs and in normal times attends a service. She has not been there since March 2020 and won't be going back until she is vaccinated. The service have assured my elderly Mum that her place will be there for her when she is ready. They ring every couple of months to touch base with my Mum.


  • #5106
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    My sister (adult) has Special Needs and in normal times attends a service. She has not been there since March 2020 and won't be going back until she is vaccinated. The service have assured my elderly Mum that her place will be there for her when she is ready. They ring every couple of months to touch base with my Mum.


    I’d just like to point out again. Adult day services are under a completely different dept. Nothing to do with dept of education

    ( afaik at least)


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  • #5107
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    seamus wrote: »
    It's actually bang on what I would have expected.

    The trend tends to be that Tuesday is a drop, Wednesday bumps up, Thursday matches Tuesday, then it drops again each day until the following Tuesday.

    I hope that trend continues but with close contacts not being tested yet we may be in for a bumpy time.


  • #5108
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    Yesterday was 3,932?


  • #5109
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Progress seems to have stalled a bit. Hope to see a fall in the positivity rate over the next couple of days.

    Yeah very disappointing tbh


  • #5110
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I hope that trend continues but with close contacts not being tested yet we may be in for a bumpy time.
    Reid said they want to get back to it soon but only when the positivity rates fall.


  • #5111
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Far more tests, slightly less positives.

    Anecdotally hearing of many contacts with no symptoms getting tested. Capacity must be freeing up and GP's putting them through anyway


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  • #5112
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Reid said they want to get back to it soon but only when the positivity rates fall.

    I wonder what they want it below - 10%? I think the sooner we can get testing close contacts the sooner we can get the cases down.


  • #5113
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 16.46%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.

    They amended the overall total upwards by about 300 over the last week. Any idea why that was?

    I keep track of daily swabs and the numbers have definitely changed!


  • #5114
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I wonder what they want it below - 10%? I think the sooner we can get testing close contacts the sooner we can get the cases down.
    Who knows?! That was all he said.


  • #5115
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    no one should be disheartened, positive rate seems to be falling nicely, hopefully be below 10% by early next week, huge amount of tests in last 24 hours


  • #5116
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anecdotally hearing of many contacts with no symptoms getting tested. Capacity must be freeing up and GP's putting them through anyway

    Off course, it won't be a percentage figure they are aiming for as such - it will be when they have the capacity.


  • #5117
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yesterday was 3,932?
    Yesterday's data was revised, as was the day before.

    I might reset my data, I've been taking it from the swab site on a daily basis rather than direct from source. The swab data does drift a little due to some missed reporting. Rarely makes much of a difference overall, though there was a day back November or December, that it made a big difference.


  • #5118
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well I don’t have all the answers, I’m just one individual.

    Staff living in nursing homes may not be a complete non runner. I mean we have billions to spend and surely we could offer a hell of a salary for people willing to make such a sacrifice.

    Also, I don’t see why we can’t use temperature checks and Antigen testing. NPHET are completely against antigen testing but surely it could have helped a great deal in homes.

    We also shouldn’t have cut back on the PCR testing that we were doing.

    I’m sure a team of experts could come up with a few suggestions if the desire was there.

    But ultimately blanket lockdown and blame the public is easier and less taxing.

    Nothing to do with your "agenda". It's about patient safety. Hence why we don't recommend antigen testing as it's only 60 something odd percent sensitive.


  • #5119
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    fits wrote: »
    I’d just like to point out again. Adult day services are under a completely different dept. Nothing to do with dept of education

    ( afaik at least)

    Yes, I seemed to have replied to wrong post. I was trying to reply to the person whose brother goes to a service to reassure them about losing places etc


  • #5120
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    seamus wrote: »
    3,854 out of 28,178 test, 13.68%

    Almost exactly the same raw number as yesterday, pure coinkeedink.

    7-day down to 16.46%

    14-day number has dropped for the first time in forever.
    3595 more tests than yesterday and 69 less positive swabs. Better than expected I'd say?


  • #5121
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Victim blaming is never nice .When do you stop the blame ? What about the person A who had a cousin B over for Christmas and said cousin was positive unbeknownst to him , then A get infected and passes it to her family ? Everyone got it from someone so who are you going to blame A or B or the one before B ?Or C who got it from A ?


    +1

    Good post.

    This infection is catching even careful people out this last couple of weeks .

    People who haven't gone outside except minimally shopping and for excercise are catching it from asymptomatic family members .

    Whole families becoming positive , 50% asymptomatic , or with one or two members testing negative while others in the family ( all age groups ) becoming very ill .

    Very strange.

    Until we get back to a level where we can test and trace adequately we are just firefighting .


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  • #5122
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Anybody else baffled and shocked by this??

    Not really shocked. Imagine lots of people in the same physical space sharing the same air over a prolonged period of time.

    Maybe shocked that they've finally admitted it.


  • #5123
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Anecdotally hearing of many contacts with no symptoms getting tested. Capacity must be freeing up and GP's putting them through anyway

    I was referred (yes, again :( ) today through my GP, rang this morning and got a callback at about 2pm. Test scheduled for 9.30am tomorrow morning. Appointment message is different though, does advise to arrive on time as opposed to early as there is a high volume of appointments.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #5124
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Benimar wrote: »
    They amended the overall total upwards by about 300 over the last week. Any idea why that was?

    I keep track of daily swabs and the numbers have definitely changed!
    Yeah a few numbers changed in there. Tuesday and yesterday's rates were slightly better than originally reported.

    7-day rate is actually down to 15.97%


  • #5125
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    no one should be disheartened, positive rate seems to be falling nicely, hopefully be below 10% by early next week, huge amount of tests in last 24 hours

    The fall in positivity today is due to a resumption of mass testing in nursing homes. The positivity of that testing is 2%.I don't know how many tests were done but it should be hitting the results today.

    I wouldn't judge today's fall in positivity as a sign of a trend (unless you filter out the nursing homes somehow).


  • #5126
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Not really shocked. Imagine lots of people in the same physical space sharing the same air over a prolonged period of time.

    Exactly this.

    There's a reason when China built its hospital in 10 days, they designed it with negative pressure single occupancy rooms. Our hospital buildings aren't really designed like this at all, so it's not really possible to fully protect against.


  • #5127
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Akabusi wrote: »
    I wonder what they want it below - 10%? I think the sooner we can get testing close contacts the sooner we can get the cases down.

    3000 cases a day with an average of 3 close contacts is 9000 extra tests.

    They can't do that at the moment as they hit 'capacity' today without the additional loading.

    It's worth noting that they have started back mass testing in high risk environments (nursing homes) today. I suspect they will do a run through the nursing homes once and then scald that back to make space for testing of close contacts.


  • #5128
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nothing to do with your "agenda". It's about patient safety. Hence why we don't recommend antigen testing as it's only 60 something odd percent sensitive.

    https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/12/eua-granted-for-at-home-antigen-card-covid-test

    Abbot's test for instance is more like 90% specificity.

    In addition, antigen testing is recommended by authorities, albeit in specific circumstances owing to the faster speed flexibility (despite inferior sensitivity.

    "The Commission also recommends using rapid antigen tests for population-wide screening in epidemiological situations or areas where the proportion of test positivity is very high.

    Previously, it recommended that in order to mitigate the impact of Covid-19 in healthcare and social-care settings, rapid antigen tests – which can deliver results in about an hour – should be considered at admission to healthcare facilities, as well as for triage of symptomatic patients or residents."

    https://www.thejournal.ie/anitgen-testing-ireland-5322169-Jan2021/


  • #5129
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Amirani wrote: »
    Exactly this.

    There's a reason when China built its hospital in 10 days, they designed it with negative pressure single occupancy rooms. Our hospital buildings aren't really designed like this at all, so it's not really possible to fully protect against.

    The wilful denial of the airborne transmission is leading to a lot of pain. I never knew that they only acknowledged airborne transmission with measles in the lat 80s despite it being around for decades.


  • #5130
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    The wilful denial of the airborne transmission is leading to a lot of pain. I never knew that they only acknowledged airborne transmission with measles in the lat 80s despite it being around for decades.

    Where is the denial?

    If you share the same room as someone for 2 hours or more, even if always 10 metres apart you are deemed a close contact.


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  • #5131
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Who is still denying that it's airborne!!?

    No seriously WHO is still denying that it's airborne.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations

    In spite of saying that masks are useful and staying in proximity to people is dangerous.

    It boggles the mind. But this is the anniversary of when they said that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission. Happy Anniversary!


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