General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Hitchens · 13-01-2021 08:22PM

sandwiched now

~Rebel~ · 13-01-2021 08:27PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Blown well over the bar by Sterling. Thought De Bruyne took them?

Feckin' Sterling.. .doing everything he can to mess up my already-fucked FF team!

ShamoBuc · 13-01-2021 08:41PM

Quality cross, quality finish.

doc_17 · 13-01-2021 09:36PM

Spurs back in the hunt if they see this out.

doc_17 · 13-01-2021 09:48PM

Brilliant from Lookman.

~Rebel~ · 13-01-2021 09:48PM

doc_17 wrote: »

Spurs back in the hunt if they see this out.

Jinxed 'em!

Great goal in fairness, Fulham been pushing on well for the past while.

JPA · 13-01-2021 09:48PM

Score an early goal, concede a late goal. Happened a few times for Spurs.
It's very hard to hold a 1 nil lead for the majority of a match.

Thanx 4 The Fish · 13-01-2021 09:51PM

JPA wrote: »

Score an early goal, concede a late goal. Happened a few times for Spurs.
It's very hard to hold a 1 nil lead for the majority of a match.

Apparently under Jose that is the way they have been going, shots in second half are way down on their first half shots this season, get a goal and try to defend it seems to be the objective a lot of the time. Son scores that one off the post, its game over though, fine margins.

~Rebel~ · 13-01-2021 09:57PM

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Apparently under Jose that is the way they have been going, shots in second half are way down on their first half shots this season, get a goal and try to defend it seems to be the objective a lot of the time. Son scores that one off the post, its game over though, fine margins.

Such a strange man. He really seems to get in his own way by doing things in the most Jose-way possible. Like winning isn't enough, he only wants to win if its in a way that justifies his ethos.

Lucas Hood · 13-01-2021 10:09PM

Everton vs Villa expected to be called off according to The Athletic.

~Rebel~ · 13-01-2021 10:14PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Everton vs Villa expected to be called off according to The Athletic.

Poor auld Everton, between this and the Man City game they're gonna run into some seriously chaotic fixture congestion down the line, through no fault of their own.

giveitholly · 13-01-2021 10:16PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Poor auld Everton, between this and the Man City game they're gonna run into some seriously chaotic fixture congestion down the line, through no fault of their own.

The only thing is they are not in Europe and have a few injuries at the moment so it might work out ok for them

Thanx 4 The Fish · 13-01-2021 10:19PM

giveitholly wrote: »

The only thing is they are not in Europe and have a few injuries at the moment so it might work out ok for them

Yep, patched together a team to play v Wolves so missing this game may help, particulalry with how Villa are plauying as well.

~Rebel~ · 13-01-2021 10:40PM

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Yep, patched together a team to play v Wolves so missing this game may help, particulalry with how Villa are plauying as well.

True - anything that helps James, DCL, and Richarlison get closer to full health and fitness may be worth the congestion. Different team with those 3 firing.

greendom · 14-01-2021 12:14AM

It's easy to say in hindsight but I thought that was a shocking midfield picked by Mourinho tonight. Pure stodge. Got what he deserved.

14-01-2021 07:52AM

Mourinho should have kept quiet until after the game. He did Fulhams team talk for them. They fully deserved their draw.

yourdeadwright · 14-01-2021 10:25AM

I seen Mark Clattenberg making a fool of himself as usual

He said Klopp is ridiculous to suggest Man Utd get more favourable decisions than everyone else That only happened in the Fergie era

Then goes on to say how himself and ref's where more likely to give United penalties and decisions because of Fergie,
Because of the Aura around United , then says it was "eased" not gone "eased" This guy was ref in that time ,

So basically something couldn't possible happen , then goes on to say it did happen in the past and he was involved in it

How can he not see the stupidity in his own comments

Mitch Connor · 14-01-2021 10:33AM

Everton vs Villa postponed.

Bit of a farce that Villa are allowed to play the cup game vs Liverpool with a bunch of kids but doing so in the PL isn't on. What does it say for the cup if the authorities were happy for Villa to play their kids in that but don't tell them to do the same in the PL? Either playing out an official competitive fixture with the youth team is ok, or it is not.

yourdeadwright · 14-01-2021 10:40AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Everton vs Villa postponed.

Bit of a farce that Villa are allowed to play the cup game vs Liverpool with a bunch of kids but doing so in the PL isn't on. What does it say for the cup if the authorities were happy for Villa to play their kids in that but don't tell them to do the same in the PL? Either playing out an official competitive fixture with the youth team is ok, or it is not.

I don't see the problem with it ,
Fa Cup is a side show after all but the main thing is games have to be played so the next round can take place which is not the case in the league

Imagine in may United v Liverpool and there is a covid outbreak and United have to play there under 19s and Liverpool beat them to win the title or two teams fighting relegation

(swap them with any two teams its not fair) the Premier league can rearrange games

TitianGerm · 14-01-2021 10:42AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Everton vs Villa postponed.

Bit of a farce that Villa are allowed to play the cup game vs Liverpool with a bunch of kids but doing so in the PL isn't on. What does it say for the cup if the authorities were happy for Villa to play their kids in that but don't tell them to do the same in the PL? Either playing out an official competitive fixture with the youth team is ok, or it is not.

Different rules for each competition.

Mitch Connor · 14-01-2021 10:45AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I don't see the problem with it ,
Fa Cup is a side show after all but the main thing is games have to be played so the next round can take place which is not the case in the league

Imagine in may United v Liverpool and there is a covid outbreak and United have to play there under 19s and Liverpool beat them to win the title or two teams fighting relegation

(swap them with any two teams its not fair) the Premier league can rearrange games

So the Fa don't care about the FA Cup, which is essentially what you are saying? They don't care if a team fields a youth side to get the match over and done with.

If they have to postpone the PL game, but couldn't do the same for the FA Cup, they should have simply forced Villa to forfeit the FA Cup game. You can either play a match or you can't.

yourdeadwright · 14-01-2021 10:54AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So the Fa don't care about the FA Cup, which is essentially what you are saying? They don't care if a team fields a youth side to get the match over and done with.

If they have to postpone the PL game, but couldn't do the same for the FA Cup, they should have simply forced Villa to forfeit the FA Cup game. You can either play a match or you can't.

Its not that they don't care but they realise where they stand,

Don't forget before the pandemic even started in December 2019 Liveprool had to play there youths in a Carling cup game ,

Cups don't have as many options to re-arrange fixtures ,

If league games can be re-arranged they will ,

Whats the difference in United's opening game against Burnley being postponed because United hadn't got a proper rest due to the Europa Cup ? Where you calling United to forfeit that game ? no because like everyone else you could see it could be re-arranged just like this game ,

Quazzie · 14-01-2021 10:58AM

Is it not as basic as the fact that in the PL there is a defined squad that players can be selected from and if a team can't select 14 from that set squad then game it postponed, whereas the FA cup isn't restricted by this, so a club can name a team of U18's to play.

Mitch Connor · 14-01-2021 10:58AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Its not that they don't care but they realise where they stand,

Don't forget before the pandemic even started in December 2019 Liveprool had to play there youths in a Carling cup game ,

Cups don't have as many options to re-arrange fixtures ,

If league games can be re-arranged they will ,

Whats the difference in United's opening game against Burnley being postponed because United hadn't got a proper rest due to the Europa Cup ? Where you calling United to forfeit that game ? no because like everyone else you could see it could be re-arranged just like this game ,

The difference is there needed to be a minimum time between last season's fixture and next season's fixture. Burnley game fell inside the minimum.

Arguably the United performances and Palace (Loss), Brighton (lucky win) and Spurs (humiliating) were in part caused by United having 4 days of training between their mandatory break and their first game.

United didn't moan that the Palace or Brighton games should be postponed, which would be in line with your argument.

JPA · 14-01-2021 11:00AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Everton vs Villa postponed.

Bit of a farce that Villa are allowed to play the cup game vs Liverpool with a bunch of kids but doing so in the PL isn't on. What does it say for the cup if the authorities were happy for Villa to play their kids in that but don't tell them to do the same in the PL? Either playing out an official competitive fixture with the youth team is ok, or it is not.

They are different competitions. Also, a PL game can be replayed in 2 or 3 months time whereas an FA cup game can't.

However, a precedent was set with the first game postponed, Villa - Newcastle. If they had forced that to be played with whatever 14 players were available that would have been the precedent.

Fitz* · 14-01-2021 11:08AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Everton vs Villa postponed.

Bit of a farce that Villa are allowed to play the cup game vs Liverpool with a bunch of kids but doing so in the PL isn't on. What does it say for the cup if the authorities were happy for Villa to play their kids in that but don't tell them to do the same in the PL? Either playing out an official competitive fixture with the youth team is ok, or it is not.

The FA cup games had to be played within a certain timeframe as the 4th round starts on 23rd January weekend, which is only 2 weeks after the 3rd round. With multiple league games to be played in those 2 weeks, it didn't give much chance for postponements.

League games can be postponed for another 5(ish) months, the cup games didn't have any real chance.

Shanotheslayer · 14-01-2021 12:13PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

True - anything that helps James, DCL, and Richarlison get closer to full health and fitness may be worth the congestion. Different team with those 3 firing.

Yeh it benefits us a lot I think.

Also closer to getting Allan back too

pjohnson · 14-01-2021 01:02PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Is it not as basic as the fact that in the PL there is a defined squad that players can be selected from and if a team can't select 14 from that set squad then game it postponed, whereas the FA cup isn't restricted by this, so a club can name a team of U18's to play.

Dont think thats in effect when window is open. The squads are free-for-all until the window closes.

Josh Onomah played for Fulham yesterday and wasnt in the original PL squad.

DM_7 · 14-01-2021 01:11PM

In the league cup Leyton Orient, who could not fulfil a fixture, were eliminated.

In the case of the FA cup, Villa fielded a team to complete the fixture.

Same as Liverpool when they had to travel for another competition.

In the end different rules for different competitions that are organised by different bodies with different priorities for different scenarios are inevitable.

niallo27 · 14-01-2021 06:58PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I seen Mark Clattenberg making a fool of himself as usual

He said Klopp is ridiculous to suggest Man Utd get more favourable decisions than everyone else That only happened in the Fergie era

Then goes on to say how himself and ref's where more likely to give United penalties and decisions because of Fergie,
Because of the Aura around United , then says it was "eased" not gone "eased" This guy was ref in that time ,

So basically something couldn't possible happen , then goes on to say it did happen in the past and he was involved in it

How can he not see the stupidity in his own comments

So all those times we said it back them and we were told put on our tin foil hats, we were actually right. In fairness it was pretty clear refs who are just normal Joe's who be intimated by a figure such as ferguson.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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