Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

dam099 · 13-01-2021 03:41PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1349083440130490369?s=19

Isn't that more about the privacy concerns with WhatsApp's recent changes to share more data with Big Brother Facebook?

duploelabs · 13-01-2021 03:45PM

dam099 wrote: »

Isn't that more about the privacy concerns with WhatsApp's recent changes to share more data with Big Brother Facebook?

Doesn't happen here in Europe due to GDPR

francois · 13-01-2021 03:54PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Universities and levels of higher education are heavily correlated with being left wing. You don't learn much It in school so that only leaves people who teach themselves and a small % of people who have been taught. Certainly any job I have worked in people have been pretty open with their political beliefs which are pointed one way (and my job would involve coding) but that is Ireland.

I wonder how many are those keeping tabs on it or trolling as well. Certainly would expect at least a few in the Biden administration coming in to be on it to see what the chatter is. Many others could be interested in this as well due to the number of death threats.

Have to agree vast majority of coders I've met working in IT nearly 30 years now would be left of centre and liberal in their beliefs, nor shy of hiding it either.

The Raging Bile Duct · 13-01-2021 03:56PM

francois wrote: »

Have to agree vast majority of coders I've met working in IT nearly 30 years now would be left of centre and liberal in their beliefs, nor shy of hiding it either.

There would seem to be a pretty a hefty slant towards libertarianism with tech people across the pond from what I can get gather. Maybe I picked that up wrong.

francois · 13-01-2021 03:56PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1349083440130490369?s=19

You'd have to wonder if the fsb have backdoors in that

wes · 13-01-2021 03:57PM

francois wrote: »

Have to agree vast majority of coders I've met working in IT nearly 30 years now would be left of centre and liberal in their beliefs, nor shy of hiding it either.

The founder apparently use to work for Amazon AWS. I think its more a case of throwing together an MVP (minimal viable product) to try and capitalize on conservatives being pissed off about Twitter, and never really doing much else beyond that.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 04:05PM

wes wrote: »

The founder apparently use to work for Amazon AWS. I think its more a case of throwing together an MVP (minimal viable product) to try and capitalize on conservatives being pissed off about Twitter, and never really doing much else beyond that.

Absolutely - Clearly just lashed together a few API's from here and there to get a platform out the door.

Also , the utterly appalling site performance suggests that they were spending the absolute bare minimum on AWS capacity as well..

And given the state of the security on the site , they weren't testing a whole lot either.

Agent Coulson · 13-01-2021 04:05PM

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349382998072971265?s=20

briany · 13-01-2021 04:06PM

wes wrote: »

The founder apparently use to work for Amazon AWS. I think its more a case of throwing together an MVP (minimal viable product) to try and capitalize on conservatives being pissed off about Twitter, and never really doing much else beyond that.

Parler might not have had the money to invest in better infrastructure because of the unconventional revenue stream where they took a cut off advertising money from influencers who used the service.

VinLieger · 13-01-2021 04:08PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349382998072971265?s=20

If kids in the schools with metal detectors did this they would be arrested.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 04:08PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349382998072971265?s=20

One of them was claiming that it was a breach of his constitutional rights to make him go through security!

From the Party that brought you the Patriot Act.

PhilOssophy · 13-01-2021 04:11PM

Might have been covered in the many other threads on the matter, but do you think Trump actually believes what he is saying himself about voter fraud, conspiracies, fake news, etc?

I can't help think that when himself, Don Jnr and co sit around having a coffee they are laughing their heads off at the 70m people who voted for them, and the fact that many of them actually believe his every word, no matter how crazy or outlandish the claim is? I bet they are saying "we gotta keep this going, because these people actually believe our every word, even if we don't ourselves".

Apologies if done already elsewhere.

Penn · 13-01-2021 04:12PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

One of them was claiming that it was a breach of his constitutional rights to make him go through security!

From the Party that brought you the Patriot Act.

They really are the most hypocritical, petulant group of c*nts.

Overheal · 13-01-2021 04:19PM

From the party whose POTUS hasn't been to a Covid briefing in literal months

As the House pushes forward with Trump’s impeachment, his allies are arguing that voters would prefer Congress focus on combating the coronavirus and are upset with social media companies for banning the president.

The Trump campaign Wednesday circulated a memo written by Trump pollster John McLaughlin to campaign aide Jason Miller.

“Voters are opposed to impeachment and Big Tech censorship, and they want an orderly transition,” McLaughlin wrote. “Voters strongly prefer that Congress deal with fighting coronavirus and not impeachment. Impeachment is viewed as a waste of time and money.”

As part of the White House’s limited pushback, senior aide and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has asked allies to publicly argue that impeachment is unnecessary. Trump, meanwhile, has asked Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) to help hold the line with members of his chamber ahead of a potential Senate impeachment trial.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/13/trump-impeachment-biden-transition-live-updates/#link-53UPWXKFUNHSXP5KGYD4ABLW5U

rossie1977 · 13-01-2021 04:20PM

The released tapes about Covid suggests he believes one thing and says something completely different in public.

Regardless millions believe what Trump the TV/Twitter character says so that is where it becomes dangerous

briany · 13-01-2021 04:22PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

The released tapes about Covid suggests he believes one thing and says something completely different in public.

Regardless millions believe what Trump the TV/Twitter character says so that is where it becomes dangerous

Note:

"It was just a prank, bro" is not a viable defence in court against the charge of fomenting insurrection.

salmocab · 13-01-2021 04:22PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

One of them was claiming that it was a breach of his constitutional rights to make him go through security!

From the Party that brought you the Patriot Act.

Also the party that most support gun rights which means children have to go through a metal detector to get educated. They really are a bunch of knobs.

Samsonsmasher · 13-01-2021 04:22PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Might have been covered in the many other threads on the matter, but do you think Trump actually believes what he is saying himself about voter fraud, conspiracies, fake news, etc?

I can't help think that when himself, Don Jnr and co sit around having a coffee they are laughing their heads off at the 70m people who voted for them, and the fact that many of them actually believe his every word, no matter how crazy or outlandish the claim is? I bet they are saying "we gotta keep this going, because these people actually believe our every word, even if we don't ourselves".

Apologies if done already elsewhere.

I think he does. He says basically that Biden's election went against all national and historical trends. In the primaries Trump got a huge vote and was polling at 95% approval rate among GOP voters. The 2020 election had an historically high turnout with Trump increasing his vote dramatically. He won Florida and Ohio at which point most opponents historically concede and was ahead in all the swing states until the count was stopped followed by the introduction of mail in votes which were almost 100% for Biden with curiously low spoiled ballots. These votes were concentrated in the counties encompassing Detroit Milwaukee Philadelphia Pittsburgh and Atlanta with the result that Biden won these states by only a few thousand votes.
Trump believes that the rules for mail in ballots were ignored meaning they should have been tossed. Also there were dead people voting, there was impersonation, ineligible people voted such as felons and people out of state etc which further should have cut Biden's lead. He also claims ballots were changed or destroyed.
He claims the recounts were bogus and there weren't proper audits and all of this was conducted by corrupt officials taking their orders from the Democrats or RINO Republicans.
He thinks the Supreme Court was wrong when it refused to hear the challenge to the result in Pennsylvania because under the constitution only the state legislature not the state supreme court can change the rules for elections in this case admitted ballots after the 8pm deadline on election day.

He absolutely believes it. Of that there is no doubt.

seamus · 13-01-2021 04:27PM

Penn wrote: »

They really are the most hypocritical, petulant group of c*nts.

The problem here is that in other countries, the proper crazy politicians, the kind who would bring a weapon into the chamber and go postal, would belong to fringe parties.
In the US anyone who's within an ass's roar of actually getting elected, gets aligned to one of the two parties.

So you get this wide variance in individuals inside parties.

What I'm saying is that if I suggested a representative might walk around the metal detectors and bring a weapon into the building would typically be met with claims that, "No, Republicans are crazy, but they're not that crazy".

When in reality, some US politicians ARE that crazy, because the requirements for being a party member are solely down to your electability and not your character.

I'd be deeply, deeply concerned that Bob Gibbs walking around the metal detector was a demonstration to someone else or a test run to prove whether someone could bring in a weapon without being stopped by security.

jimmycrackcorm · 13-01-2021 04:28PM

francois wrote: »

Have to agree vast majority of coders I've met working in IT nearly 30 years now would be left of centre and liberal in their beliefs, nor shy of hiding it either.

I'm a similar time in IT and I would suggest liberal and right of centre for people working here in Ireland anyway. Because we're highly paid and acutely aware of how much of our pay goes in taxation without benefits such as free housing.

Overheal · 13-01-2021 04:31PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1349392042112249857?s=20

Took a minute to figure out that song was titled Yakety Sax

PhilOssophy · 13-01-2021 04:33PM

Do you not think that is just the public persona Trump though Samsonsmasher? He knows what his supporters want to hear, so he keeps peddling it. He claimed thousands of dead people, but produced no evidence.
I can't help think that they are actually pissing themselves laughing in the background after the latest proclamation that people actually believe this tripe, no?
I'd love to know if he's actually a complete troll who has hit the jackpot in finding naive gullible people to eat out of the palm of his hand?

chicorytip · 13-01-2021 04:33PM

I don't believe his comments or actions in advance of the march on Capitol Hill by his supporters could be viewed as an incitement to riot. Not at all. It would have occurred anyway.
I think Trump suffers from some form of cognitive impairment. His (non-scripted) utterances are usually rambling, incoherent and senseless and his facial expression is mask like with an unfocused look in the eyes. He may be exhibiting signs of dementia.

Necro · 13-01-2021 04:36PM

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13-01-2021 04:41PM

chicorytip wrote: »

I don't believe his comments or actions in advance of the march on Capitol Hill by his supporters could be viewed as an incitement to riot. Not at all. It would have occurred anyway.
I think Trump suffers from some form of cognitive impairment. His (non-scripted) utterances are usually rambling, incoherent and senseless and his facial expression is mask like with an unfocused look in the eyes. He may be exhibiting signs of dementia.

I think he sort of does, he is wealthy enough to have been shielded from having to examine his rambling nonsense.

Mr Velo · 13-01-2021 04:44PM

What time are the fireworks beginning on CNN then? (what time do approx should I tune in at?)

rossie1977 · 13-01-2021 04:44PM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

I think he does. He says basically that Biden's election went against all national and historical trends. In the primaries Trump got a huge vote and was polling at 95% approval rate among GOP voters.

No it didn't. Biden was polling ahead of Trump for over two years. I am not nostradamus but you can look back on my posts from 2 years ago saying Biden would beat him. The blue wave during the 2018 primaries were just a precursor of things to come..

Trump had high popularity among Republicans but record low approval among Dems and independents. Trump knew Biden was massive threat hence why he tried to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on him.

The 2020 election had an historically high turnout with Trump increasing his vote dramatically. He won Florida and Ohio at which point most opponents historically concede

Sorry but what?

Turnout was up across the board. That was mostly due to how easy mail in made voting compared to normally waiting hours on line to vote.

and was ahead in all the swing states until the count was stopped followed by the introduction of mail in votes which were almost 100% for Biden with curiously low spoiled ballots. These votes were concentrated in the counties encompassing Detroit Milwaukee Philadelphia Pittsburgh and Atlanta with the result that Biden won these states by only a few thousand votes.

Incorrect. Some states counted mail in first like Ohio, Texas and South Carolina and Biden raced into big leads in all three states only to be pegged back once voting on day was counted. Other states counted day voting first then mail in.

The cities are predominantly Democrat, we know that. Just look at Texas 2018 senate vote. Cruz won all the small counties and lost the big cities.

Not surprising there was very few spoiled mail votes. The procedure to vote by mail is extremely detailed and requires a lot of work before a postal vote is accepted as legitimate.

Trump believes that the rules for mail in ballots were ignored meaning they should have been tossed.

Toss millions of legal votes, bet he would have liked that .

Maybe if he hadn't told supporters that mail in was fraudulent for months leading into election more Republicans would have voted this way

Also there were dead people voting, there was impersonation, ineligible people voted such as felons and people out of state etc which further should have cut Biden's lead. He also claims ballots were changed or destroyed.

And yet multiple court cases found no evidence of any of this. Ironically the dead people who did vote were mostly Republicans...

He claims the recounts were bogus and there weren't proper audits and all of this was conducted by corrupt officials taking their orders from the Democrats or RINO Republicans.
He thinks the Supreme Court was wrong when it refused to hear the challenge to the result in Pennsylvania.

He absolutely believes it. Of that there is no doubt.

He can believe what he likes. In Georgia the governer rejected Trumps claims and he was one of Trumps biggest supporters, foolishly rushing to reopen state when Trump called on governors to do so.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 04:51PM

chicorytip wrote: »

I don't believe his comments or actions in advance of the march on Capitol Hill by his supporters could be viewed as an incitement to riot. Not at all. It would have occurred anyway.
I think Trump suffers from some form of cognitive impairment. His (non-scripted) utterances are usually rambling, incoherent and senseless and his facial expression is mask like with an unfocused look in the eyes. He may be exhibiting signs of dementia.

Wholeheartedly disagree.

He just not very bright , not very well educated and not very well read but no one has ever actually told him that , so he thinks he's Awesome.

No one has ever told him no , no one has ever told him his ideas or statements is complete tripe - He has been enabled and pandered to for his entire life.

That's part of why (all of why really) he has spent his entire Presidency whining. He was finally actually answerable to people.

People that he can't fire or ignore.

So now when those people don't vote for him and have rejected him , he simply cannot wrap his brain around that.

This is what can happen when you spoil your kids people!!!

Leroy42 · 13-01-2021 04:56PM

chicorytip wrote: »

I don't believe his comments or actions in advance of the march on Capitol Hill by his supporters could be viewed as an incitement to riot. Not at all. It would have occurred anyway.
I think Trump suffers from some form of cognitive impairment. His (non-scripted) utterances are usually rambling, incoherent and senseless and his facial expression is mask like with an unfocused look in the eyes. He may be exhibiting signs of dementia.

But it never happened before. Not in 2016, 2012, 2008 etc etc.

On what basis are you claiming that all these people that had never done anything like this before would have done it regardless of Trump?

BattleCorp · 13-01-2021 04:58PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

But it never happened before. Not in 2016, 2012, 2008 etc etc.

On what basis are you claiming that all these people that had never done anything like this before would have done it regardless of Trump?

The people who brought cable ties, IED's etc. to use when storming the Capitol building didn't do so on the basis of Trump's speech. They had that stuff with them so they must have intended to storm the building long before Trump gave the speech that people are saying started the riot.

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