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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    This is different. We have one big spike caused by 2-3 weeks of free for all over Christmas. Hospital figures will peak by the weekend.

    It's never different. There's always a tail.

    Here's a recent and similar example of a short sharp spike followed by a long tail from our long suffering friends in Belgium.
    This is best case scenario where cases continued to fall for the duration of the tail.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    seamus wrote: »
    He's way behind. He's looking at case data from 11th January, which is already up to 2 days behind the swab data.
    Numbers are improving quite steadily at this stage.

    Ah only a day on county by county basis though no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Ah only a day on county by county basis though no?
    A day behind on announced cases. But announced cases themselves are up to 2 days behind the swab data.

    So we already know that things are improving very well, but we don't have visibility yet on which counties are improving fastest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Confirmed Cases in ICU
    172

    Admissions to ICU in last 24 Hours
    27

    Discharges from ICU in last 24 Hours
    11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    A little advice please?

    A friend works for an "essential" company. Their colleague tested positive for covid, and the friend is deemed a close contact - worked together in close proximity 48 hours before the colleague developed symptoms. Friend is still waiting to be called by the tracing team.

    The company are aware, and have told all close contacts (approximately 5) that all of them MUST work because they are short staffed, and that it doesn't matter because they have no symptoms.


    Wtf should my friend do? I've advised them to ring the hse covid line to be confirmed as a close contact, and walk out (they were in work when they received the information about being a close contact), but they're new to the job so afraid to assert themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    It is beyond astonishing what is happening, even the international news media are critisising the government's handling of Covid here, but not a peep from the local news, everything is simply bowing heads and obeying blindly to Meehoe and Leo's nonsense (other than the anti mask crazies), no pushback, no questioning, no seeking of facts and logic and reason and a plan....just total submission. 'yes my lord and master, you know best' type of thing.

    What has happened to this country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The_Brood wrote: »
    It is beyond astonishing what is happening, even the international news media are critisising the government's handling of Covid here, but not a peep from the local news, everything is simply bowing heads and obeying blindly to Meehoe and Leo's nonsense (other than the anti mask crazies), no pushback, no questioning, no seeking of facts and logic and reason and a plan....just total submission. 'yes my lord and master, you know best' type of thing.

    What has happened to this country?
    Have you written a press release for them to publish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    The_Brood wrote: »
    It is beyond astonishing what is happening, even the international news media are critisising the government's handling of Covid here, but not a peep from the local news, everything is simply bowing heads and obeying blindly to Meehoe and Leo's nonsense (other than the anti mask crazies), no pushback, no questioning, no seeking of facts and logic and reason and a plan....just total submission. 'yes my lord and master, you know best' type of thing.

    What has happened to this country?

    I think all the local media have had their turn saying you shouldn't have opened up for christmas against NPHET advice. You messed up.

    What else do you want?
    They are now moving on.

    To be honest I want more of the Irish media call out people who had massive christmas gatherings as idiots. They are why we are where we are.

    Unfortunately media dont want to insult their readership.

    There was a lot of pushback about wanting to be open for Christmas? See where that got us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    The_Brood wrote: »
    It is beyond astonishing what is happening, even the international news media are critisising the government's handling of Covid here, but not a peep from the local news, everything is simply bowing heads and obeying blindly to Meehoe and Leo's nonsense (other than the anti mask crazies), no pushback, no questioning, no seeking of facts and logic and reason and a plan....just total submission. 'yes my lord and master, you know best' type of thing.

    What has happened to this country?
    I won't say the government are faultless, but I get the impression people are staying quiet because they know this spike is undeniably down to the lack of care taken by the public at large. Even listening to the radio a lot of soft "acceptable" anti-lockdown proponents have gone silent as they've no straws to grasp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Chopper Dave


    I won't say the government are faultless, but I get the impression people are staying quiet because they know this spike is undeniably down to the lack of care taken by the public at large. Even listening to the radio a lot of soft "acceptable" anti-lockdown proponents have gone silent as they've no straws to grasp.

    Totally agree - and I wouldn't read too much into what the international media are saying. Every country has had bad periods with COVID (some extremely bad) and no one can claim a monopoly on good decisions. At the moment, and even with the current peaks, I don't think Ireland is going to come out of the overall experience materially worse than most countries and likely a lot better than England, Belgium, USA, etc.

    Every population is going to grow weary of a lockdown after a period of time and the challenge for Governments now is to manage this and get the vaccinations done as quickly as possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I think all the local media have had their turn saying you shouldn't have opened up for christmas against NPHET advice. You messed up.

    What else do you want?
    They are now moving on.

    To be honest I want more of the Irish media call out people who had massive christmas gatherings as idiots. They are why we are where we are.

    Unfortunately media dont want to insult their readership.

    There was a lot of pushback about wanting to be open for Christmas? See where that got us?

    Sure Ryan Tubridy was the biggest cheerleader of all for the christmas knees up...

    His first show back (afters weeks off)...

    "Im surprised at how many cases there are"..."I didnt see this coming"

    He should be removed from our radios and TV screen...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Confirmed Cases in ICU
    172

    Admissions to ICU in last 24 Hours
    27

    Discharges from ICU in last 24 Hours
    11

    This is the real pressure point at the moment. Hopefully the rate of increase drops soon, as we're already using some surge capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0113/1189371-coronavirus-ireland/
    Ilona Duffy is talking about this on radio 1.

    They're down 7000 staff countrywide and have to ask asymptomatic close contacts in the HSE to come in for a test and get back to work.

    My uncle had an accident in his driveway on the ice last week and had to go to the Bons because he split himself open. Now he also has covid.

    Please be extraordinarily careful.

    And this is why we dont want people driving 10miles to go for a hike on their own using the "its the safest place to be" nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Sure Ryan Tubridy was the biggest cheerleader of all for the christmas knees up...

    His first show back (afters weeks off)...

    "Im surprised at how many cases there are"..."I didnt see this coming"

    He should be removed from our radios and TV screen...

    They should certainly take his medical degree off him....oh wait, he presents a tv show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Stephen Donnelly couldnt have said it better.


    You are correct, RTE have been doom mongers for this whole pandemic...

    HOWEVER, since Ireland became the worst country in the world at handling Covid...they have begun to soften the language...vaccines are coming, numbers will go down etc etc...

    Bit of perspective, Ireland has one of the lower COVID death rates in EUrope as things stand, 3x times less deaths per capita than Slovenia or Belgium


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I won't say the government are faultless, but I get the impression people are staying quiet because they know this spike is undeniably down to the lack of care taken by the public at large. Even listening to the radio a lot of soft "acceptable" anti-lockdown proponents have gone silent as they've no straws to grasp.

    Yes, in fairness most people are not hypocrits.

    They know if government had followed NPHET advice to the letter before Christmas (which probably would have reduced the increase in cases somewhat) the outrage and anger about it would have been deafening.

    Not just from the likes of the nuts & full time agitators + contrarians that post in this forum but also from all the "acceptable" anti-restrictions talking heads (or "pro-economy" as they probably see themselves), lobby groups of the sectors adversely affected by heavier restrictions during Christmas trading period, as well as (I think??) a significant proportion of the general public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I won't say the government are faultless, but I get the impression people are staying quiet because they know this spike is undeniably down to the lack of care taken by the public at large. Even listening to the radio a lot of soft "acceptable" anti-lockdown proponents have gone silent as they've no straws to grasp.

    Let's be honest people were gonna still meet up regardless of level 5 or level 1000.

    The government knew it and everyone knew it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭zinfandel


    Let's be honest people were gonna still meet up regardless of level 5 or level 1000.

    The government knew it and everyone knew it.

    and now a parent or granny or family member are very ill or dead, I lost count of the number of people who said NOTHING will stop me having my usual christmas and seeing all my family.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55640352
    London's nightingale hospital has also now reopened in order to accommodate non-COVID hospital patients displaced by the surge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Bit of perspective, Ireland has one of the lower COVID death rates in EUrope as things stand, 3x times less deaths per capita than Slovenia or Belgium

    And Belgium do not (or were not) counting nursing home deaths, as far as I understand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    zinfandel wrote: »
    and now a parent or granny or family member are very ill or dead, I lost count of the number of people who said NOTHING will stop me having my usual christmas and seeing all my family.....

    oh goodness

    I know quite a few parents and grandparents that implored their children to visit and bring the grandchildren etc..

    There are people of all sorts and hues.

    Elderly people aren't all hiding behind the curtains trembling in fear of every caller..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    In the supermarket today I saw the first no-masker I've seen in about six months. It made him look strange. Also, it was a little unsettling to think that HE was the odd one out. I really hope we get back to normality soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    zinfandel wrote: »
    and now a parent or granny or family member are very ill or dead, I lost count of the number of people who said NOTHING will stop me having my usual christmas and seeing all my family.....
    Yeah, I know of two people now who went through the "we're going to have a normal Xmas, fvck it" thing and now at least one grand/parent is dead.

    I have no schadenfreude about it, I genuinely feel very sorry for anyone who has ended up in this situation. They made what seemed like a relatively low-risk decision at the time and it's had the worst ending, which will live with them for the rest of their days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    GreeBo wrote: »
    And this is why we dont want people driving 10miles to go for a hike on their own using the "its the safest place to be" nonsense.

    Is it ok to drive 10 miles to be on your own if it's not for a hike?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    seamus wrote: »
    Yeah, I know of two people now who went through the "we're going to have a normal Xmas, fvck it" thing and now at least one grand/parent is dead.

    I have no schadenfreude about it, I genuinely feel very sorry for anyone who has ended up in this situation. They made what seemed like a relatively low-risk decision at the time and it's had the worst ending, which will live with them for the rest of their days.

    yeah taking the opportunity to exercise the moral high ground over people's grief is not of much help to anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Let's be honest people were gonna still meet up regardless of level 5 or level 1000.

    The government knew it and everyone knew it.

    Give an inch take a mile and all that. Telling people it was ok to meet up was more or less an invitation to do so. I find it very hard to believe that we would have had anywhere near the same amount of household mixing if it was restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Give an inch take a mile and all that. Telling people it was ok to meet up was more or less an invitation to do so. I find it very hard to believe that we would have had anywhere near the same amount of household mixing if it was restricted.

    there wouldn't have been anywhere near it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    lawred2 wrote: »
    oh goodness

    I know quite a few parents and grandparents that implored their children to visit and bring the grandchildren etc..

    There are people of all sorts and hues.

    Elderly people aren't all hiding behind the curtains trembling in fear of every caller..
    It's a cruel disease. There are also cases of deaths where loneliness and stress brought on other conditions that killed them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Is it ok to drive 10 miles to be on your own if it's not for a hike?

    No


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    No

    Thanks for confirming. Never leaving my 5km bubble again given the increased risk of ending up in hospital.


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