Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

Banana Republic 1 · 12-01-2021 9:22am

Sky King wrote: »

You don't need to go to all that trouble. Just say you identify as female.

And keep the beard ? I wonder just how much stink one would kick up and get away with.

Sky King · 12-01-2021 9:26am

And keep the beard ?

Well in woke US you can be a woman and keep the penis. *shrugs*

Padraig Mor · 12-01-2021 9:50am

Sky King wrote: »

Well in woke US you can be a woman and keep the penis. *shrugs*

Same in Ireland. You can legally change your gender without undergoing any medical treatment whatsoever, or indeed without any input from a doctor - it's essentially a case of walking into the office and asking for your birth cert to be changed, and walking out the opposite gender without doing anything else. And some of the woke crowd want to extend this facility to children!

Hellokitty1212 · 12-01-2021 9:50am

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

And keep the beard ? I wonder just how much stink one would kick up and get away with.

I can’t recall his name but there’s a guy who is women’s officer for Stonewall who identifies as a woman and a lesbian - and has a beard.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 10:20am

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Same in Ireland. You can legally change your gender without undergoing any medical treatment whatsoever, or indeed without any input from a doctor - it's essentially a case of walking into the office and asking for your birth cert to be changed, and walking out the opposite gender without doing anything else. And some of the woke crowd want to extend this facility to children!

So... Effectively like changing your name? What's so disturbing about changing your name? People do it all the time. You can even do it in boards.ie (if you pay a subscription)

Sky King · 12-01-2021 10:24am

I don't think anyone is claiming that changing your name is disturbing.

Nice strawman BTW.

12-01-2021 10:26am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So... Effectively like changing your name? What's so disturbing about changing your name? People do it all the time. You can even do it in boards.ie (if you pay a subscription)

If you honestly think that a man becoming or declaring themselves as a woman is the same as changing your name, you have no comprehension about the differences between men and women.

Gruffalux · 12-01-2021 11:07am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So... Effectively like changing your name? What's so disturbing about changing your name? People do it all the time. You can even do it in boards.ie (if you pay a subscription)

You know that is not the only consequence full well. But there is a whole other thread for that battle.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 11:17am

Sky King wrote: »

I don't think anyone is claiming that changing your name is disturbing.

Nice strawman BTW.

Deleted User wrote: »

If you honestly think that a man becoming or declaring themselves as a woman is the same as changing your name, you have no comprehension about the differences between men and women.

Gruffalux wrote: »

You know that is not the only consequence full well. But there is a whole other thread for that battle.

Yeah, I know, I know

- but my point was that, with regard to the point about kids, what difference does it make what their passport says? I mean, they aren't making any changes to their body and it's not something that's going to potentially cause damage later on if they regret it.

It's just changing a detail on a piece of paper - like a name. There are no major consequences - or am I missing something?

Dyr · 12-01-2021 11:29am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yeah, I know, I know - but my point was that, with regard to the point about kids, what difference does it make what their passport says? I mean, they aren't making any changes to their body and it's not something that's going to potentially cause damage later on if they regret it.

It's just changing a detail on a piece of paper - like a name. There are no major consequences - or am I missing something?

You're missing quite a lot, or feigning stupidity.

Hellokitty1212 · 12-01-2021 11:51am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So... Effectively like changing your name? What's so disturbing about changing your name? People do it all the time. You can even do it in boards.ie (if you pay a subscription)

Changing your name doesn’t give you the right to enter women’s rape crisis centers and give smear tests to women in medical facilities though.

Banana Republic 1 · 12-01-2021 12:13pm

Originally Posted by Banana Republic

I was thinking of putting on a blouse and wig going for a big job in RTE or something and then claim discrimination when I didn’t get the job.

Theres a spiral happening here now with regard to gender identity, that was not my angle. With my original post I was just wondering at what stage you'd be called out

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 2:17pm

Hellokitty1212 wrote: »

Changing your name doesn’t give you the right to enter women’s rape crisis centers and give smear tests to women in medical facilities though.

The same argument could be made for banning transgender generally - is that your point, or where is the difference?

And this won't effect kids (won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN?!) having their gender changed on a passport (as long as, of course, they can change it back on future passports)

IAMAMORON · 12-01-2021 2:24pm

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Originally Posted by Banana Republic

Theres a spiral happening here now with regard to gender identity, that was not my angle. With my original post I was just wondering at what stage you'd be called out

You would not get an interview for starters.

All senior positions are head hunted invariably.

They would have to advertise a position. What happens is that they will interview 8 - 10 persons. Maybe 1 or 2 would have a smidgeon of a chance of the job - if that at all. More often than not they know exactly who they want.

Your CV can't wear a wig. The reality is that an employee agency would be contracted to " ensure transparency".

Cordell · 12-01-2021 2:38pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The same argument could be made for banning transgender generally - is that your point, or where is the difference?

And this won't effect kids (won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN?!) having their gender changed on a passport (as long as, of course, they can change it back on future passports)

So, if it's just a change in the papers, why do it at all?
But if it's more, and you send your boy to the girls school, or sent him to school in girls' uniform, do you think it's not abuse? You are willingly expose him to bullying and ridicule from the other kids, and put him all sorts of awkward positions.

silverharp · 12-01-2021 2:39pm

Ill guess without reading that the reverse wasnt suggested

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1348986753747705860

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 2:54pm

Cordell wrote: »

So, if it's just a change in the papers, why do it at all?
But if it's more, and you send your boy to the girls school, or sent him to school in girls' uniform, do you think it's not abuse? You are willingly expose him to bullying and ridicule from the other kids, and put him all sorts of awkward positions.

Slippery shope fallacy.

1800_Ladladlad · 12-01-2021 3:19pm

I think this can be applied to us too:D

https://twitter.com/JimLeitrim1/status/1348570716078301185

Hector Savage · 12-01-2021 3:48pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You DONT think they should have equal access...?

Not much of an anarchist!

They DO have equal access, have had so for decades ...

EmmetSpiceland · 12-01-2021 3:58pm

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/05/german-storms-to-be-given-more-diverse-names-after-online-campaign

“Germany has pledged to give storms more diverse names after an online initiative called for a better reflection of the multi-cultural makeup of German society.”

Sir Oxman · 12-01-2021 4:03pm

silverharp wrote: »

Ill guess without reading that the reverse wasnt suggested

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1348986753747705860

Oh RTD.
What a disappointment.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 4:05pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

They DO have equal access, have had so for decades ...

I never said they didn't. Someone implied that they shouldn't.

Cordell · 12-01-2021 4:20pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/05/german-storms-to-be-given-more-diverse-names-after-online-campaign

“Germany has pledged to give storms more diverse names after an online initiative called for a better reflection of the multi-cultural makeup of German society.”

Probably they will use names like Ahmed only for mild and ... peaceful storms, you can't name a devastating storm like that, it may send the wrong message.

Cordell · 12-01-2021 4:23pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Slippery shope fallacy.

I'm sure you said the same thing when you heard the suggestion that some male inmates will pretend to be transgender just to serve the time in a women prison.

Rodin · 12-01-2021 4:30pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The same argument could be made for banning transgender generally - is that your point, or where is the difference?

And this won't effect kids (won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN?!) having their gender changed on a passport (as long as, of course, they can change it back on future passports)

Gender isn't a category on the passport.
'Sex' is and it's either male or female. It is impossible to change sex

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 4:36pm

Cordell wrote: »

I'm sure you said the same thing when you heard the suggestion that some male inmates will pretend to be transgender just to serve the time in a women prison.

You'll have to quote the post.

Rodin wrote: »

Gender isn't a category on the passport.
'Sex' is and it's either male or female. It is impossible to change sex

Fair point, don't know how I got sidetracked with passports... Apologies!

Think it was originally meant to be Birth Cert or something, but putting the letter M instead of F is detremental to the child's health as they'll have to wear a skirt to school (not sure how? Poster declined to answer thus far) and be bullied into oblivion or something like that. Or adults will use it to get into rape-crisis clinics (again, not sure how...)

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 12-01-2021 4:39pm

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Oh RTD.
What a disappointment.

That IS a disappointment. I’ve seen Russell T Davies interviewed a few times and he’s a really intelligent, engaging guy. And, like, is he saying that Aidan Gillen and Charlie Hunnam weren’t great in their roles in Queer As Folk? I especially cannot believe he compared a straight actor playing a gay character to somebody doing blackface. :eek:

MisterAnarchy · 12-01-2021 4:48pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I never said they didn't. Someone implied that they shouldn't.

No I never implied that .
You are trying to misconstrue what I said but that isnt surprising.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-01-2021 6:30pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No I never implied that .
You are trying to misconstrue what I said but that isnt surprising.

Biden said that he was going to ensure that everyone had equal access to post Covid fundung. You said this was woke.

Either you disagree with him and don't think everyone shuold have equal access, or you agree with something you're trying to highligh as woke - which is it?

If you think it's misconstrued, then put the record straight.

biko · 13-01-2021 5:42pm

Account now suspended https://twitter.com/blm_emily_acab maybe it was a parody account, sure hope so

Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users