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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4172
    What Username Guidelines
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    It was probably brought up last night but wasn't keeping updated.

    Do ye reckon this means 700,000 have received their second vaccine and are fully vaccinated or a combination of people having received 1st and 2nd vaccines?

    When he says people you'd assume 2nd dose but just wary of government spin to inflate the figures.


    https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1348708204507754498

    Tbh I'd say 700k people double-dosed (or single-dosed with J&J) as per his second tweet which mentions 1.4m vaccines

    But he also said a couple of weeks back on radio, on a Monday "Just this week, we've upped our target to 35,000 doses" which to me read like 35k per week. But he meant 'this week we've upped the target' (i.e. in the previous few hours) to hit 35k total since vaccination began. I'd be very wary on the way things are worded.


  • #4173
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Is it true that the average hospitalisation after a positive diagnoses is 13 days?

    So for example if you take the average cases on any given day, they will translate into potential hospital cases within 13 days?

    Would that mean it’s reasonable to expect the next 2 weeks to be possibly the toughest hospital numbers wise? I’d imagine Exhaustion and weeks of a stretched healthcare system could then be the issue in Feb.
    Yeah, it's ten days. But somewhat coincidentally we should see discharge numbers ramping up considerably this week; today has seen 88 discharges, which is the highest ever.

    As admission numbers begin to flatline and discharges keep increasing, the growth in hospital cases will slow down and eventually flatten before dropping. That whole process will take 10-14 days from last weekend.

    All in all it's looking tentatively like hospital numbers should top out around 2200 (+/- 10%) and ICU numbers will be just less than 10% of that.


  • #4174
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    According to Tadhg Daly nursing homes will be tested weekly for the next three to four weeks it seems, starting tomorrow. So that will have an impact on daily testing totals.


  • #4175
    schmoo2k
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    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    My cousin (healthcare worker) received their vaccine about a week ago, they've previously had covid.

    They're now self isolating though because they were a close contact the day after receiving the vaccine!

    I know a GP in the UK who caught Covid 10 days after getting the vaccine (the protection doesn't kick in until days 12-14)!


  • #4176
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Today's GP covid test referral data is out:

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-01-12_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

    A slight increase from yesterday, but I think that is normal enough as sometimes people who are ill over the weekend wait until Monday to contact their GP.


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  • #4177
    schmoo2k
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    What reports, where?

    https://www.journalofinfection.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0163-4453%2820%2930781-7


  • #4178
    Eod100
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    According to Tadhg Daly nursing homes will be tested weekly for the next three to four weeks it seems, starting tomorrow. So that will have an impact on daily testing totals.

    Is that all staff and residents? Seems incredible that it hadn't been happening all along.

    Wonder are vaccinators going into nursing homes vaccinated too. Last thing you'd want is for them to pass or get covid while vaccinating.


  • #4179
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Today's GP covid test referral data is out:

    https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-01-12_COVID_GP_Survey_Results.pdf

    A slight increase from yesterday, but I think that is normal enough as sometimes people who are ill over the weekend wait until Monday to contact their GP.

    just backing up my theory re Mondays - see data from August when case numbers were more stable, there was always a big spike in referrals on Monday.

    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1301258814046470150/photo/1


  • #4180
    mcburns07
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    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Merkel has said that germany's strict lockdown will go on til April

    8-10 more weeks is beginning to mid March...

    Interesting to note as well that their "strict" lockdown still allows for

    One person to visit another household
    15km travel limit


  • #4181
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Is that all staff and residents? Seems incredible that it hadn't been happening all along.

    Wonder are vaccinators going into nursing homes vaccinated too. Last thing you'd want is for them to pass or get covid while vaccinating.
    They've been doing public ones every 2 weeks, private ones weekly I believe but I don't know if it's been consistently like that. Proper infection control should take care of the vaccinators anyway and it's reasonable to assume they have had their shots.


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  • #4182
    Chairman Meow
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Have 5 friends/relatives that have got vaccinated as healthcare workers so far. It's great when you know people getting it. Makes it all a bit more real!

    The sad thing is i know personally of 2 people who work in nursing / care home and are refusing the jab. It absolutely boggles my mind.


  • #4183
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They've been doing public ones every 2 weeks, private ones weekly I believe but I don't know if it's been consistently like that. Proper infection control should take care of the vaccinators anyway and it's reasonable to assume they have had their shots.

    Yeah I know in theory they had been but not sure frequency or consistency either way. You'd hope they would but with both wearing masks and having minimal contact anyway hopefully it would be a very low risk anyways.

    Think main aim atm seems to be to vaccinate nursing homes asap so hopefully will minimise illness and death.


  • #4184
    is_that_so
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah I know in theory they had been but not sure frequency or consistency either way. You'd hope they would but with both wearing masks and having minimal contact anyway hopefully it would be a very low risk anyways.

    Think main aim atm seems to be to vaccinate nursing homes asap so hopefully will minimise illness and death.
    Yep, that and at the same time frontline HCWs.


  • #4185
    tom1ie
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    schmoo2k wrote: »
    I know a GP in the UK who caught Covid 10 days after getting the vaccine (the protection doesn't kick in until days 12-14)!

    have we not got enough with covid 19? :pac::D


  • #4186
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    seamus wrote: »
    She also called it the "British virus" :pac:

    Throwing some serious shade there.

    Germany are really having difficulty getting their numbers down. After their initial Xmas spike, they're back down to early November levels, which are still not good.

    There are many, many careers that will be made out of sociology studies on this and why some countries were able to get it way down, when other countries failed to suppress it given the same measures.


    Funny that she can call it a British virus and no one says anything. Yet people had a heart attack when trump called it China virus


  • #4187
    StevenToast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    RTE Fergal Bowers...

    300- 500 daily cases, 20-30 in ICU:

    "concerned at rising numbers"....time to start panicing....

    5000+ daily cases, 160 and rising in ICU:

    "numbers will go down eventually"...vaccinations are on the way...dont be panicing


    Some mouthpiece for the government...where is the critical analysis of decisions that were made that brought us to being the worst country in the world at handling Covid 19?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • #4188
    schmoo2k
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    have we not got enough with covid 19? :pac::D

    You mocking my grammar perchance?


  • #4189
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Funny that she can call it a British virus and no one says anything. Yet people had a heart attack when trump called it China virus
    Virus=variant in this case. We too have the British virus!


  • #4190
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,088 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    You mocking my grammar perchance?

    Couldn't resist, sorry!


  • #4191
    Bubbaclaus
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    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Funny that she can call it a British virus and no one says anything. Yet people had a heart attack when trump called it China virus

    Reminded me of this


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  • #4192
    Drumpot
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    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Funny that she can call it a British virus and no one says anything. Yet people had a heart attack when trump called it China virus

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/covid-19-angela-merkel-reportedly-cites-ireland-in-warning-to-party-1.4456350%3fmode=amp
    “Merkel said the coming eight to ten weeks would be very hard if the British variant spreads to Germany,”

    I think the quote might of been taken out of context. Maybe there was a little dig element of it but not on the same solar system to Trumps intentions.

    Also, when you look at the behaviour and values of Trump and Merkel, most people will understand what she meant versus the hatred behind Trumps motives. Also, Trump is a moron, Merkel is ridiculously educated and intelligent leader. It’s no wonder she didn’t get on with that man child and one of her many endearing qualities. :D


  • #4193
    is_that_so
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    StevenToast wrote: »
    RTE Fergal Bowers...

    300- 500 daily cases, 20-30 in ICU:

    "concerned at rising numbers"....time to start panicing....

    5000+ daily cases, 160 and rising in ICU:

    "numbers will go down eventually"...vaccinations are on the way...dont be panicing


    Some mouthpiece for the goverment...where is the critical analysis of decisions that were made that brought us to being the worst country in the world at handling Covid 19?
    If there is one journalist who's done well in this it's him. Never any panic nor alarm. You should read his weekly reflections on the RTE website, very calm and measured.

    What brought us to being the worst country was human behaviour. We expected some level of cases but not this. Our response now is testament to what we've learnt in the last 10 months. What do you plan to do with this critical analysis when you find it?


  • #4194
    Ms2011
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    The BioNtech founder said his mRNA vaccine platform is going to change the world of medicine and they will produce a tonne of vaccines that wouldn't have been able to vaccinated against before.

    Exciting times for those of us who have been plagued by invisible illness and others I'm sure 👍


  • #4195
    seamus
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    I think the quote might of been taken out of context. Maybe there was a little dig element of it but not on the same solar system to Trumps intentions.
    Merkel's not a stupid racist sh1thead, that's the difference.

    What she said in German is fine, she probably knew damn well it would translate to "British virus" in English. But after the years of bullsh1t and slander she's endured, she has a lifetime licence to troll the British, IMHO.


  • #4196
    StevenToast
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    If there is one journalist who's done well in this it's him. Never any panic nor alarm. You should read his weekly reflections on the RTE website, very calm and measured.

    What brought us to being the worst country was human behaviour. We expected some level of cases but not this. Our response now is testament to what we've learnt in the last 10 months. What do you plan to do with this critical analysis when you find it?

    Interesting...human behaviour...irish humans must be dunces so...

    Ryan Tubridy and his overhyping of christmas brought this about...

    Can we sack Ryan Tubridy?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • #4197
    pc7
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    Chairman Meow wrote: »
    The sad thing is i know personally of 2 people who work in nursing / care home and are refusing the jab. It absolutely boggles my mind.


    :eek: I'd pay to get a vaccine!


  • #4198
    podgeandrodge
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    Chairman Meow wrote: »
    The sad thing is i know personally of 2 people who work in nursing / care home and are refusing the jab. It absolutely boggles my mind.

    While people need to have a choice, I can't see how they can still work in those settings if they make that choice.


  • #4199
    Car99
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    pc7 wrote: »
    :eek: I'd pay to get a vaccine!

    So would I.


  • #4200
    Car99
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    How did Thailand which is relatively close to China even using over land travel and despite being a country of nearly 70 million people get it so right as (of 3 January 2021 Thailand had recorded 8,955 cases and 65 deaths) and a small ISLAND on the edge of europe called Ireland get it so wrong now having the highest Covid 19 14 day incidence rate in the world.

    Lessons need to be learned for the next pandemic from Asis which hopefully isnt the Nipah Virus with up to 75% mortality currently breaking out over there .


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  • #4201
    Sconsey
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    Car99 wrote: »
    How did Thailand which is relatively close to China even using over land travel and despite being a country of nearly 70 million people get it so right as (of 3 January 2021 Thailand had recorded 8,955 cases and 65 deaths) and a small ISLAND on the edge of europe called Ireland get it so wrong now having the highest Covid 19 14 day incidence rate in the world.

    Lessons need to be learned for the next pandemic from Asis which hopefully isnt the Nipah Virus with up to 75% mortality currently breaking out over there .

    I don't know but one factor surely must be the quarantine requirements. Thailand put a quarantine in place for all incoming visitors...you must quarantine in a hotel for two weeks when you arrive. The quaretine is managed by government, it is not optional, security on every level of the hotels. Meanwhile we still haven't even made a negative test mandatory yet.


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