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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    So if backlog is cleared we can assume 2500ish cases this evening?

    About 1500 in there I reckon so could be as high as ~ 4,300

    Good reducing trend in the positive swabs there though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Positivity rate was 25.27% last Monday. Reduction of 10% in a week is very encouraging.

    Lowest swab figures since 29th Dec.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    SWABS are out, swabs are out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yes exactly - but the figures don't seem to add up.

    The %s don't add up to 100% (as in I see they're % of cases hospitalised but im looking for % of total in hospital/ICU) nor do the total figures add up to the 150 or so who are currently in ICU.

    It would also be interesting to see the split of figures admitted with COVID or caught it in hospital - for example the 19 0-4 year olds currently in hospital with COVID is that what they were admitted for.

    They don't have to add up to 100% but keep up the good work. You'll get there. Are you looking for an answer that proves it's just old people affected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,265 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So Theoretically, by maybe Wednesday, our daily vaccination numbers should be higher than our case numbers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    So if backlog is cleared we can assume 2500ish cases this evening?
    No, it's not as clear cut as that. It was confirmed last week that there's typically a 24-48 differential between positive results translating to into confirmed cases. And announcement of confirmed cases are up to midnight the previous today. So whatever's announced today will be primarily as a result of positive swabs between Friday & Saturday.

    It all works out on balance, but it goes to show why trying to predict today's cases from today's swabs has always been folly.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    We appear to have peaked and the heaviest restrictions have come in *after* the peak. The construction lockdown comes into effect as numbers embark on a decline.

    A heavy January should see us well on our way out of this by the end of the month. I'd wager that construction and schools should be ok to continue in early February. If we can get down to 1200-1400 cases per day by the end of the month there's no reason they shouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    eigrod wrote: »
    Positivity rate was 25.27% last Monday. Reduction of 10% in a week is very encouraging.

    Lowest swab figures since 29th Dec.


    Were they testing close contacts 7 days ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    By the looks of things even though people (somewhat understandably given the neverendingness of lockdowns) went a bit mad in December, they also copped on fairly sharpish and reeled it in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    marno21 wrote: »
    We appear to have peaked and the heaviest restrictions have come in *after* the peak. The construction lockdown comes into effect as numbers embark on a decline.

    A heavy January should see us well on our way out of this by the end of the month. I'd wager that construction and schools should be ok to continue in early February. If we can get down to 1200-1400 cases per day by the end of the month there's no reason they shouldn't.

    Fairly mental when people think 1400 cases a day is ‘grand’.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Anniepowaa


    Agreed. Most of us are doing what us necessary now so further restrictions would not really alter are day to day living anyway. Why should we have to continue suffering so a conglomerate can increase its dividends or Johnny can go to the bookies?

    Its bull**** and ineffective.

    bookies are not open genius


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    marno21 wrote: »
    . I'd wager that construction and schools should be ok to continue in early February. If we can get down to 1200-1400 cases per day by the end of the month there's no reason they shouldn't.


    There’s one good reason - if the hospitals are overrun the reopening will be delayed until there is capacity in the system again. We will see what happens though.

    I think the fight against new variant will also need to be more aggressive. If cases are brought down sufficiently it gives test and trace system the best chance to stamp out outbreaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    It did know it was Christmas, and it partied.

    The government line at the moment reminds me of Enda Kenny's infamous quote in Davos. When he was asked about how the celtic tiger crashed, he forgot we could still hear him over in Switzerland and he blamed the crash on the people.... we all 'went mad' apparently.

    Micheál and Leo seem to be increasingly taking that approach too.

    True. I really meant that Micheal thought that as it was Christmas the virus might go easy! Some mistake that has proved to be!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Fairly mental when people think 1400 cases a day is ‘grand’.
    It's not grand but it's grander than 7000 cases per day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Yes exactly - but the figures don't seem to add up.

    The %s don't add up to 100% (as in I see they're % of cases hospitalised but im looking for % of total in hospital/ICU) nor do the total figures add up to the 150 or so who are currently in ICU.

    It would also be interesting to see the split of figures admitted with COVID or caught it in hospital - for example the 19 0-4 year olds currently in hospital with COVID is that what they were admitted for.

    It's numbers admitted between 27 December and 9 January not total amount currently in ICU. The average icu stay is greater than 2 weeks.

    It's not what you are looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Good to see some sort of tangible progress in the swab numbers and positivity rates to counter all the top of the world stats

    We can do this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    eigrod wrote: »
    Positivity rate was 25.27% last Monday. Reduction of 10% in a week is very encouraging.

    Lowest swab figures since 29th Dec.
    This will not be spun as good news because our 14-day figure is going to keep increasing for at least another 2-3 days.

    Great for our 7-day and 5-day, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    So yesterday 6888 confirmed cases had a backlog of 2746!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Lot less tests, wonder is that just due to close contacts or a weekend slump.Hopefully it'll continue


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    It would also be interesting to see the split of figures admitted with COVID or caught it in hospital - for example the 19 0-4 year olds currently in hospital with COVID is that what they were admitted for.

    This data could only be extrapolated from data on CIDR dashboard, if the hospital acquired infection was associated without an outbreak. The only way to be sure someone picked up infection in the hospital environment but NOT associated with an outbreak would be: (1) In-patient for 14+ days prior to onset and (2) "Not Detected" PCR result on admission.

    Also: CIDR access is limited to public health professionals, infectious disease and microbiology professionals and laboratory scientists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    marno21 wrote: »
    It's not grand but it's grander than 7000 cases per day.

    It’s still a very high number let’s face it, with huge potential for uncontrolled surging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    So yesterday 6888 confirmed cases had a backlog of 2746!

    Yeah I am struggling how they reconcile 4146 swabs with 6888 cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Widescreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    seamus wrote: »
    This will not be spun as good news because our 14-day figure is going to keep increasing for at least another 2-3 days.

    Great for our 7-day and 5-day, though.

    Given the state of affairs right now and the fact we're the most riddled country per capita in the world, it might not do any harm to keep the pressure on for another 2-3 days to try ensure people keep the guard up, the longer people consider the situation grave, the quicker the numbers fall.

    Will enable a faster return to normality unlike what happened in November where the foot seemed to have been taken off the pedal by mid November with cases bottoming out at the 300-400 mark, instead of the sub 100 point as the perception was we were on top of this and the best country in Europe.

    Some times a little spin goes a long way :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Rte have finally got the headline they wanted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Rte have finally got the headline they wanted

    I don’t think that’s very fair. They’re reporting fact. Not much point in being annoyed with the messages. We are where we are and it’s their job to hold up a mirror, even if it’s extremely unflattering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    NH2013 wrote: »
    Given the state of affairs right now and the fact we're the most riddled country per capita in the world, it might not do any harm to keep the pressure on for another 2-3 days to try ensure people keep the guard up, the longer people consider the situation grave, the quicker the numbers fall.
    I genuinely don't think it needs to be made any graver than it is. People in my sphere who I know were willing to bend the rules a bit, even those who barely gave two hoots, have all copped on and are taking this seriously, at least till the end of the month.

    People are scared by the numbers and the fact that almost everyone knows somebody who has tested positive in the last two weeks alone.

    Just under half of all of our positive swabs have occurred since 20th December. 22 days versus 9 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Britain is racing ahead with vaccinations. We haven't vaccinated all nursing home residents yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    titan18 wrote: »
    Lot less tests, wonder is that just due to close contacts or a weekend slump.Hopefully it'll continue

    Somebody else might know better than I do but the gp referral data is down too.

    Hopefully the fall in tests is good news. Then we can go back to testing close contacts soon. Yes it will drive the cases up a little but I think we need to have that testing back before we open up again.


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