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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Yes. I see no signs of contrition or learning from them.
    It wasn't the first time they ignored the expert advice and made us pay the consequences, and it's unlikely to be the last.

    to be fair, nphet are only offering expert health advice, there are others offering other advice (economic for example)
    Its the job (and responsibity) of the gov and no one else to manage all the advice and choose what to do, there isnt a "How to handle a global pandemic and keep your economy afloat" handbook lying around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    The_Brood wrote: »
    You would think that the bare minimum the government would guarantee in a mass stay at home shutdown is that people receive packages they order on time, or at least within a reasonable timeframe.

    Whatever is causing this right now, brexit, covid etc is doing the opposite, massive delays on all parcels from everywhere it seems.

    Is there not even one drop of responsibility from anyone we are allowed to ask?

    I'm sure your Tamagotchi will be along shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    statesaver wrote: »
    Should of closed the airports.

    "Not fit for purpose"

    I've grown to hate that statement more than "new normal" and the word "lockdown".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Have you contacted your local post office?

    Other people aren't experiencing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Chairman Meow




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Widescreen wrote: »
    Yep, it's obvious the measures in place will take months to work or may never work fully. The 2k limit is needed and only really ESSENTIAL places should open, obviously, not car washes, diy stores(should be emergency only), phone shops, and others that I haven't got time to list. "Essential" business such as computer hardware/software should close their manufacturing sections for 2-3 weeks. It is that type of lockdown that is needed, in fairness our gov have to wake up and realise this is the same virus, that ripped through Italy, Spain, UK, USA etc and is not a special lightweight Irish version.

    I think Leo said at the start this virus does not know boundaries. If that is the case why did his successor think it knew it was Christmas.

    It did know it was Christmas, and it partied.

    The government line at the moment reminds me of Enda Kenny's infamous quote in Davos. When he was asked about how the celtic tiger crashed, he forgot we could still hear him over in Switzerland and he blamed the crash on the people.... we all 'went mad' apparently.

    Micheál and Leo seem to be increasingly taking that approach too.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    WERE NO. 1!!! WERE NO. 1!!!

    The best little country in the world....:)....for Covid 19....:mad:

    Covid loves Paddy! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    People thought I was mad about 2 weeks ago when I said that I was hoping that my employer (a pharma company) would vaccinate me, probably ahead of the HSE timelines for my category. They have a vaccination taskforce created for this purpose.

    Pfizer are doing the same and are rolling out the vaccine to their staff, which will not impact order commitments.

    Although the numbers are small, that's 3,000 (Pfizer employees in Ireland) less people the HSE need to organise vaccinations for.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/moderna-starts-shipping-covid-19-vaccine-supplies-in-europe-1.4455357
    Staff vaccination
    The news comes as pharma giant Pfizer said it has begun offering its own staff access to the Covid-19 vaccine the company developed with German company BioNTech.

    The US company, which employs more than 3,000 people in Ireland, said it was targeting all “site essential” employees “who are critical to the vaccine effort and the continued supply of all Pfizer medicines”. That includes workers are manufacturing and research sites.

    Staff vaccination started this week at the company’s Covid-19 manufacturing operations in Puurs in Belgium and in Kalamazoo, Michigan. It will be expanded to other sites in the Pfizer network on a rolling basis, the company said. That will include its three manufacturing plants in Ireland – at Grange Castle in Dublin, Ringaskiddy in Cork and Newbridge.

    Learn more

    Pfizer said it had around 15,000 employees and on-site contractors in EU states whom it considered to be site-essential

    That will entail 30,000 doses of the vaccine. A spokeswoman for the company said these doses will not be taken from those already committed to various governments under supply agreement, including Ireland and “will not impact supply to national governments in any way”.

    The drug giant is concerned that the ongoing spread of the virus in the current surge might risk vaccine supplies and supplies of other critical medicines if there was an outbreak at any of its sites.

    The company will notify the HSE of those vaccinated to ensure accurate records for the ongoing national rollout of the vaccine here.

    “Ensuring supply of our medicines and continuation of critical research and development work across therapeutic areas, including cardiovascular disease and cancer, is a priority for global health, particularly given the current burden on health systems around the world as a result of Covid-19,” the company said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    The 150 people or so who are currently in ICU in Ireland - is there an age breakdown available of these people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Widescreen wrote: »
    Yep, it's obvious the measures in place will take months to work or may never work fully. The 2k limit is needed and only really ESSENTIAL places should open, obviously, not car washes, diy stores(should be emergency only), phone shops, and others that I haven't got time to list. "Essential" business such as computer hardware/software should close their manufacturing sections for 2-3 weeks. It is that type of lockdown that is needed, in fairness our gov have to wake up and realise this is the same virus, that ripped through Italy, Spain, UK, USA etc and is not a special lightweight Irish version.

    I think Leo said at the start this virus does not know boundaries. If that is the case why did his successor think it knew it was Christmas.

    Agreed. Most of us are doing what us necessary now so further restrictions would not really alter are day to day living anyway. Why should we have to continue suffering so a conglomerate can increase its dividends or Johnny can go to the bookies?

    Its bull**** and ineffective.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    The 150 people or so who are currently in ICU in Ireland - is there an age breakdown available of these people?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    The 150 people or so who are currently in ICU in Ireland - is there an age breakdown available of these people?

    There was yesterday anyway, numbers were low under 65, but still around 15 or so, 4 people between 25 and 34 were in ICU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    No.

    Why isn't this information available?

    Or the numbers in hospital - why isn't a breakdown of age category available?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Why isn't this information available?

    Or the numbers in hospital - why isn't a breakdown of age category available?

    GDPR no doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    There was yesterday anyway, numbers were low under 65, but still around 15 or so, 4 people between 25 and 34 were in ICU

    I'd be interested in age profile of a) people in ICU and b) people in hospital and c) the split between those who were admitted with COVID v those who contracted it in hospital.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    GDPR no doubt.

    But don't they disclosed the stats on cases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Why isn't this information available?

    Or the numbers in hospital - why isn't a breakdown of age category available?

    What does it matter? The affect on the health services remains the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    No.

    well there is a 14 day rolling measure of age groups entering hospital and subsequently entering ICUs

    details are released every day - usually a few days behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    What does it matter? The affect on the health services remains the same.

    For information purposes - makes a huge difference.

    If I said there were 150 people in ICU right now and 140 were children under the age of 10.

    Or if i said there were 150 people in ICU right now and 140 were 80+ years of age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The HPSC produce statistical breakdowns; https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/

    Live figures of people in ICU by age are not available, not least because the public does not need that information, but also because there are GDPR issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Latest HPSC report. You cans the breakdown by age admitted to hospital etc. Not great.

    539032.png

    See above for ICU data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Why isn't this information available?

    Or the numbers in hospital - why isn't a breakdown of age category available?

    DA6Yr4f.png

    Is this what you're after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Usual Monday evening briefing at 5.30(ish). https://twitter.com/juneshannon/status/1348648143391494145?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Miike wrote: »
    DA6Yr4f.png

    Is this what you're after?

    Yes exactly - but the figures don't seem to add up.

    The %s don't add up to 100% (as in I see they're % of cases hospitalised but im looking for % of total in hospital/ICU) nor do the total figures add up to the 150 or so who are currently in ICU.

    It would also be interesting to see the split of figures admitted with COVID or caught it in hospital - for example the 19 0-4 year olds currently in hospital with COVID is that what they were admitted for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Saturday: 4142 Swabs (18.05%)
    Sunday: 2845 Swabs (15.56%)

    Clear progress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Sunday- 4142 swabs from 22,949 swabs (6888 cases announced)

    Monday- 2845 from 18,280


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Weekend figures are in:

    Sunday; 4142 positive swabs out of 22949, 18.05%
    Today; 2845 swabs out of 18280, 15.56%

    All good numbers.

    7-day down to 20.1%, 4th consequtive drop.

    We can almost certainly confirm that we're past the peak now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    So if backlog is cleared we can assume 2500ish cases this evening?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Yes exactly - but the figures don't seem to add up.

    The %s don't add up to 100% (as in I see they're % of cases hospitalised but im looking for % of total in hospital/ICU) nor do the total figures add up to the 150 or so who are currently in ICU.
    The number of cases hospitalised and admitted to ICU relate only to events notified in the last 14 days and do not include
    cases notified prior to this and admitted to hospital or ICU in the last 14 days

    My apologies I thought my screenshot captured this subtext.


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