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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #3272
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    A lot of people mentioning clearing of the backlog. Have I missed something or was that not cleared a couple of days ago?


  • #3273
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1348318121132699648

    862 in Cork

    I thought the backlog was gone according to Nolan :confused:
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  • #3274
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Miike wrote: »
    A lot of people mentioning clearing of the backlog. Have I missed something or was that not cleared a couple of days ago?
    DoH say yes, posters disagree.


  • #3275
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1348318121132699648

    RIP those 8
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  • #3276
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Miike wrote: »
    A lot of people mentioning clearing of the backlog. Have I missed something or was that not cleared a couple of days ago?

    Nolan said on Thursdays press briefing that the backlog was essentially cleared and within operational norms and it was taking maybe 24 hours more than normal for a swab to be confirmed as a case. Ie backlog =5k. My maths said 6k but close enough. There is always some difference.

    The journalists said backlog is now cleared which was wrong.


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  • #3277
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Miike wrote: »
    A lot of people mentioning clearing of the backlog. Have I missed something or was that not cleared a couple of days ago?
    is_that_so wrote: »
    DoH say yes, posters disagree.

    I thought the same :o:confused:
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  • #3278
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    57,000 cases in 11 days. 5% about 2,800 will need hospital treatment. Some already in hospital but many more will and no signs of a bid drop in growth atm


  • #3279
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    is_that_so wrote: »
    DoH say yes, posters disagree.

    What the DoH actually said was they were within one day of being up to date. This was reported by Richard Chambers are meaning the backlog was cleared but that is not what was said. Yesterday on the radio Cillian De Gascun was unclear about whether the backlog had been cleared.


  • #3280
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Sorry, so what’s the story with “the backlog”? Are they still filtering them into daily numbers or were they retrospectively added to previous days or are they just not bothering to announce them?

    Admittedly I don’t fully understand the process, but either somebody has tested positive or they haven’t , how hard is it to confirm it and log it within a week of a problem arising? Is this an extremely complex method of recording the information? Could somebody not even do a tot on an excel sheet just so there’s none of this messing?


  • #3281
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Derek Zoolander wrote: »
    The private hospitals though have invested in infrastructure and the facilities that the government haven’t - which the government now needs...

    So it’s the price that the government / hse and people have to pay for our ****ty health system...

    Laziness and unwillingness to change hse means the easy option for past 20 years was to let a high % of people pay for their own healthcare... they outsourced the problem rather than dealing with it and now they need to foot that bill

    They've enriched people by curtailing the services. I don't think it's a coincidence. Lack of investment in healthcare is a decision which drives people into the arms of profiteers.

    The very same profiteers who are their political donors. It's not an accident. It's a national emergency and the fact is they are profiting on people who need oxygen.


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  • #3282
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1348318121132699648

    Can imagine a good number of that total is backlog cases and we'll find out how many tomorrow for certain. Has been a good week in the clearance of the backlog.


  • #3283
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Just came up in my Facebook feed.
    Pope's personal doctor dies from 'complications due to Covid.' Irish Post.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #3284
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1348321381197488134?s=19


  • #3285
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    What the DoH actually said was they were within one day of being up to date. This was reported by Richard Chambers are meaning the backlog was cleared but that is not what was said. Yesterday on the radio Cillian De Gascun was unclear about whether the backlog had been cleared.
    The concept of it just causes confusion. As Henry said today with contacts not being tested, the daily totals are not a true reflection anyway.


  • #3286
    Flyer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    We have pissed away the last 9/10 months of these meaningless lockdowns and token phrases from spineless leaders. The reality is we have achieved diddly squat. We failed to protect the vulnerable in the beginning, we failed to control the spread, we failed to control borders, we have now failed several business sectors, and we are making a pigs ear of rolling out the vaccines.

    Looking at a friends instagram story that lives in Australia. A view from a packed pub, enjoying his pint overlooking a busy beach.

    Some little country to make utter scutter of a situation. Anyone who says we are doing a " good job " needs their head looked at.


  • #3287
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    wadacrack wrote: »
    57,000 cases in 11 days. 5% about 2,800 will need hospital treatment. Some already in hospital but many more will and no signs of a bid drop in growth atm

    The latest 14 day epidemiology report suggests that they're much, much tighter with who they admit to hospital recently. Just over 2% of cases admitted in the last 14 days.


  • #3288
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The concept of it just causes confusion. As Henry said today with contacts not being tested, the daily totals are not a true reflection anyway.

    Problem with this backlog aswell is that technically our average over the last week is higher then that being quoted. I can’t understand how difficult it is to tot these numbers up. I’d be forgiving of mistakes and issues arising, but I’d love to know why such a simple thing (recording data accurately) in this day an age, during a crisis, is affecting the reliability of daily data.


  • #3289
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,111 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Plateau, Plateau, Plateau, if I hear this word again, I'll scream, it's become the byword from Medics, Journalists, Pundits and Tweetint Twits.

    6800 cases is not what I'd describe at Plateauing, even at the worst moments of initial lockdown, it never got so bad, the past week as been utterly shocking.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • #3290
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Plateau, Plateau, Plateau, if I hear this word again, I'll scream, it's become the byword from Medics, Journalists, Pundits and Tweetint Twits.

    6800 cases is not what I'd describe at Plateauing, even at the worst moments of initial lockdown, it never got so bad, the past week as been utterly shocking.

    The daily figure is meaningless without looking the swabs!

    The swabs were showing definite signs of plateauing and possibly declining yesterday.

    Daily figures we are being fed is due to the archaic data systems within the HSPC.


  • #3291
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Nolan said on Thursdays press briefing that the backlog was essentially cleared and within operational norms and it was taking maybe 24 hours more than normal for a swab to be confirmed as a case. Ie backlog =5k. My maths said 6k but close enough. There is always some difference.

    The journalists said backlog is now cleared which was wrong.
    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1348321381197488134?s=19

    Some seriously harrowing numbers there on the face of it.


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  • #3292
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    They've enriched people by curtailing the services. I don't think it's a coincidence. Lack of investment in healthcare is a decision which drives people into the arms of profiteers.

    The very same profiteers who are their political donors. It's not an accident. It's a national emergency and the fact is they are profiting on people who need oxygen.

    We invest in our healthcare at close to the top of the EU - we just get terrible value for money...

    Agree with the owners/ conflict of interest / that’s the insular nature of non FDI business in Ireland - reeks of you scratch my back / I’ll scratch yours


  • #3293
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    If you want to take the 6800 cases as cause for concern compare it with the 3 days in a row of 1600 cases at the tail end of December when we could see the swabs were 3/4x higher.

    In terms of trend watching, the figure we got today of 6800 is meaningless until we get the swab numbers around 3/4pm tomorrow.


  • #3294
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Plateau, Plateau, Plateau, if I hear this word again, I'll scream, it's become the byword from Medics, Journalists, Pundits and Tweetint Twits.

    6800 cases is not what I'd describe at Plateauing, even at the worst moments of initial lockdown, it never got so bad, the past week as been utterly shocking.

    You do know that 'plateau' just refers to the shape of a graph? The actual numbers are secondary to the determination that any set of data has plateaued or not. In itself plateauing case numbers is not a Good sign.


  • #3295
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The concept of it just causes confusion. As Henry said today with contacts not being tested, the daily totals are not a true reflection anyway.

    Yes the data quality is appalling. With number of contacts now only at about 3, with close contact positivity rate usually in the 10 to 15% range, and with at least 60% of Covid positive people getting symptoms, the lack of close contact testing should not be making a massive difference to case numbers


  • #3296
    Endintheclowns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Plateau, Plateau, Plateau, if I hear this word again, I'll scream, it's become the byword from Medics, Journalists, Pundits and Tweetint Twits.

    6800 cases is not what I'd describe at Plateauing, even at the worst moments of initial lockdown, it never got so bad, the past week as been utterly shocking.

    In fairness a lot are just hoping beyond hope and need something to cling onto.

    A lot of denial on here though about how bad things are and will become.


  • #3297
    JacksonHeightsOwn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    marno21 wrote: »
    If you want to take the 6800 cases as cause for concern compare it with the 3 days in a row of 1600 cases at the tail end of December when we could see the swabs were 3/4x higher.

    In terms of trend watching, the figure we got today of 6800 is meaningless until we get the swab numbers around 3/4pm tomorrow.

    So you're saying there wasn't actually 6800 positives in the past 24 hours, some of those numbers are actually from the previous days?

    This is just demoralising now. Really depressing stuff, day in, day out


  • #3298
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    chrisbonnie wrote: »
    So you're saying there wasn't actually 6800 positives in the past 24 hours, some of those numbers are actually from the previous days?

    This is just demoralising now. Really depressing stuff, day in, day out

    Need to wait til tomorrow when we get the swabs for today.


  • #3299
    vafankillar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    the numbers have been so stupidly high the last week i'm now worried when we get below a thousand people will feel like we've made huge strides are stop being so careful, or worse government might open up again too early around a few hundred


  • #3300
    JacksonHeightsOwn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Need to wait til tomorrow when we get the swabs for today.

    Let's hope so.

    Because we could all do with some good news, and fast.....


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  • #3301
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Stheno wrote: »
    I suspect there is the rest of the backlog in there

    There was 4000 backlog before today's announcement.

    It would be great if all of them were included in today's number, as that would mean less than 3000 swabs today.

    Unlikely though.


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