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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,286 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I'll ask again. Any evidence for this??


    ''
    An extraordinarily high number of ballots — more than 550,000 — have been rejected in this year's presidential primaries, according to a new analysis

    That's far more than in the 2016 general election and has raised alarms about what might happen in November when tens of millions of more voters are expected to cast their ballots by mail, many for the first time.''


    In Georgia 12k was thrown out in primaries, in Election trump lost Georgia by 11k, but there was far more votes in Presidential Election, so thrown out ballots would be far higher than the 12k in primaries.... in theory .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Even from a distance this is horrific. Savages is right.

    Yesterday someone here was pretending they thought he died of essentially natural causes.

    Sure they were just trying to arrange a meeting with their elected representatives and he was stopping them. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    J. Marston wrote: »
    ErWiHhuW4AAIXjR?format=jpg&name=medium

    Video of the moment above where he is dragged down the steps and beaten...

    https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/

    Savages. The guy doing the middle finger takes his helmet off and wears it himself.


    This is the mob that posters have been making excuses for?


    They'll claim not to support this but you'll notice that they made sure to downplay, deflect and lie about it. How is that not supporting it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    walshb wrote: »
    This is exactly why it’s a complete and utter waste of time even discussing anything with Trump supporters..

    Trump himself pretty much summed this up...he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and he’d still get voted for..

    The whole method of asking questions, providing no evidence that can stand up to counter questioning and then asking to be proved wrong, is what I would describe as a cluster fallacy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    It doesn't seem complicated, all they have to do is open their minds to learning about the law and civics and why things are set up the way they are in the constitution. I moved to the us a couple of years back and I'm still learning this. You can learn to trust the system by learning about it.


    That requires a desire to learn but as we have seen in the last few years, these people don't what to know, they want to believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ''
    An extraordinarily high number of ballots — more than 550,000 — have been rejected in this year's presidential primaries, according to a new analysis

    That's far more than in the 2016 general election and has raised alarms about what might happen in November when tens of millions of more voters are expected to cast their ballots by mail, many for the first time.''


    In Georgia 12k was thrown out in primaries, in Election trump lost Georgia by 11k, but there was far more votes in Presidential Election, so thrown out ballots would be far higher than the 12k in primaries.... in theory .

    No link or citation for that quote. Seems legit :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Subtle. No wonder they got away with it. Where is your evidence for that happening?
    Some Trump lickspittle called Matt Shlong, sorry, Schlapp, said it so I'm taking it as fact

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/matt-schlapp-claims-man-told-him-a-biden-van-showed-up-to-polls-to-replace-ballots-gives-no-evidence/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,286 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    No link or citation for that quote. Seems legit :pac:




    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/22/904693468/more-than-550-000-primary-absentee-ballots-rejected-in-2020-far-outpacing-2016?t=1610294797864




    Paper ink, one can write anything, doesn't make it true.

    But here is a link .


  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This kid of says it all even tho they are making trump look like a bad person

    Digitally edited imagine originally taken directly from Facebook for cousin fu*kers or Parler as it's more commonly known.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Trump won by very slim margins in 2016 in a number of states. Was that fraud too???

    You know the spiel ... There was only fraud in states Trump didn't win ... In 2016 he claimed 3 million votes were fraudulent ... There were Trumpists who were going to investigate this thoroughly ... And surprise surprise .. Never heard of these eejits again...

    Hillary explained it perfectly in one of the debates


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    biko wrote: »
    A protestor was shot dead. That's not kid gloves.

    Oh stop it.

    They pushed and fought through multiple barricade lines, smashed through doors, got up to the second floor of the DNC wing and were meters away from the Speakers chamber where lawmakers were huddling and then, there, lethal force was deployed, finally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    That requires a desire to learn but as we have seen in the last few years, these people don't what to know, they want to believe.


    Yes, and of course, compound that with all the hero-worship of the rebel, and it is the perfect recipe for a disastrous course. One guy wore a jacket with the mention: "God, Trump and Guns". Multiply that by hundreds of thousands, millions fed the yahoo "Shoot and ask questions later" that Hollywood foists on them, draped in the stars and stripes. Even at close range, viewed from Canada, they are like animals in a zoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980



    And do you have the comparable stats for this election?? Or are you just making stuff up that they were all fine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sand wrote: »
    Unarmed protesters trying to gain access to their representatives is hardly domestic terror. People trying to spin this up into the beerhall putsch need to change the media they consume.

    “The bad faith arguments will continue until morale improves”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty



    Hmmm. Did you read the article? Which party does it say will benefit most?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    A van with Biden/Harris plastered on the side pulled up at a count centre with a load of dodgy ballot slips!!!

    How much more evidence do you need????

    You'd need the following:
    • That such a van even existed
    • That it did contain ballot slips
    • That the ballots slips were indeed fraudulent
    • The those ballot slips were counted
    • That there were sufficient ballot slips to swing the result

    So what's the evidence for all of the above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sand wrote: »
    I never said they wanted "a chat", cosy or otherwise. That's just a strawman.

    Yea. You did. In dozens of posts. This is easily verified by reading back to last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    storker wrote: »
    You'd need the following:
    • That such a van even existed
    • That it did contain ballot slips
    • That the ballots slips were indeed fraudulent
    • The those ballot slips were counted
    • That there were sufficient ballot slips to swing the result

    So what's the evidence for all of the above?

    It's QAnon/Oath Keeper/Proud Boy bollox. The vast majority of people in the US have accepted that the voting was legit, that Biden is rightfully president and that the Democrats won Georgia. Time for people who support Trump's filthy lies to get on with their lives instead of remaining mired in horsesh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ''
    An extraordinarily high number of ballots — more than 550,000 — have been rejected in this year's presidential primaries, according to a new analysis

    That's far more than in the 2016 general election and has raised alarms about what might happen in November when tens of millions of more voters are expected to cast their ballots by mail, many for the first time.''


    In Georgia 12k was thrown out in primaries, in Election trump lost Georgia by 11k, but there was far more votes in Presidential Election, so thrown out ballots would be far higher than the 12k in primaries.... in theory .

    So ie. Not the 2020 General Election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    A van with Biden/Harris plastered on the side pulled up at a count centre with a load of dodgy ballot slips!!!

    How much more evidence do you need????

    You've convinced me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    ''
    An extraordinarily high number of ballots — more than 550,000 — have been rejected in this year's presidential primaries, according to a new analysis

    That's far more than in the 2016 general election and has raised alarms about what might happen in November when tens of millions of more voters are expected to cast their ballots by mail, many for the first time.''


    In Georgia 12k was thrown out in primaries, in Election trump lost Georgia by 11k, but there was far more votes in Presidential Election, so thrown out ballots would be far higher than the 12k in primaries.... in theory .
    2,011 absentee ballots were rejected in the November 2020 election for missing or non-matching signatures out of 1,322,529 absentee ballots cast. In November 2018, 454 absentee ballots were rejected for missing or non-matching signatures out of 284,393 absentee ballots cast. The 0.15% rejection rate for signature issues was the same in both the 2018 and 2020 General Elections.

    https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/number_of_absentee_ballots_rejected_for_signature_issues_in_the_2020_election_increased_350_from_2018

    You were saying??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    A van with Biden/Harris plastered on the side pulled up at a count centre with a load of dodgy ballot slips!!!

    How much more evidence do you need????

    storker wrote: »
    You'd need the following:
    • That such a van even existed
    • That it did contain ballot slips
    • That the ballots slips were indeed fraudulent
    • The those ballot slips were counted
    • That there were sufficient ballot slips to swing the result

    So what's the evidence for all of the above?
    bad2dabone wrote: »
    You've convinced me.


    Billy was being sarcastic here. Unfortunately, we live in an age where people post precisely such stupid nonsense and aren't being sarcastic at all. They really believe this stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://twitter.com/schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=21

    Powerful message from Fmr Governor Schwarzenegger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Overheal wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=21

    Powerful message from Fmr Governor Schwarzenegger


    Yeah but John Voight. So there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,846 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    J. Marston wrote: »
    ErWiHhuW4AAIXjR?format=jpg&name=medium

    Video of the moment above where he is dragged down the steps and beaten...

    https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/

    Savages. The guy doing the middle finger takes his helmet off and wears it himself.

    Some fat bearded guy beats the cop with a US flag. True patriots

    Not at all Fascist scum

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    J. Marston wrote: »
    ErWiHhuW4AAIXjR?format=jpg&name=medium

    Video of the moment above where he is dragged down the steps and beaten...

    https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/

    Savages. The guy doing the middle finger takes his helmet off and wears it himself.

    Disgusting. They dragged him down the steps and beat him unmercifully. Utter scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ITT: several lesser services Parler relies on to function are also pulling the plug. Third party Two factor authentication services were disabled last night meaning 2FA could be bypassed by typing any string in place for the code you were meant to receive by phone. They’ve since shut down new registrations to Parler as they’ve been overwhelmed by trolls. You love to see it.

    https://twitter.com/richcoxphoto/status/1348312013605376001?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    An off duty Capitol Police officer has apparently taken his own life.

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1348299879013969922


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    An off duty Capitol Police officer has apparently taken his own life.

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1348299879013969922

    Wonder what his involvement was.

    The secret service announced they lost someone of their own this week.

    Edit: ignore it was lung cancer. RIP

    https://twitter.com/secretservice/status/1348308755121893384?s=21


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭fash


    joe40 wrote: »
    That doesn't matter, a country is either capable of having fair elections or not.
    Trump has taken numerous cases in several states to court with no success.

    You are saying the courts are either incompetent or complicit in fraud.

    That is frankly nonsensical at this stage.
    In fact, since one can find and read the pleadings and decisions online, if there is any failing it is in the incompetence of Trump and his teams of lawyers in formulating positions: how come given all of this amazing high quality that obviously exists (or otherwise why would our not gullible at all conspiracy theorists believe it), why did Trump fail in putting it down on paper even once? Failed. Every. Single. Time. And why should someone that incompetent be supported for the job of President?


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