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BobbyMalone · 09-01-2021 06:49PM

Gradius wrote: »

That needs to change rapidly.

If all the major car manufacturers banned you from buying their cars because you wore brown shoes one day, even though plenty of other people wear brown shoes...would you be happy with "they're private companies, they can do what they want. Just build your own car"?

It's hypocritical nonsense that shouldn't be allowed. Rules for all or rules for nobody.

Trump wasn't banned for wearing brown shoes, or anything innocuous like that. It was for inciting violence, which was against the t&cs that he agreed to when he signed up.

A better car example would be losing your licence when you use your car to kill someone by hitting them when breaking the speed limit.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 06:49PM

PropJoe10 wrote: »

You can turn that in whatever direction you want. Fox News and their opinion hosts masquerading as actual news reporters, for example.

There's a lot more wrong with the way that news is obtained these days than Donald Trump being suspended from Twitter.

No, the twitter precedent is worse as there is practically nothing of scale the same.

A more apt comparison would be criticising a Fox news organisation with millions of employees versus a corner newsstand. That's not reality though, and neither is diminishing the grip these two or three tech companies have on public influence.

runawaybishop · 09-01-2021 06:50PM

Gradius wrote: »

That needs to change rapidly.

If all the major car manufacturers banned you from buying their cars because you wore brown shoes one day, even though plenty of other people wear brown shoes...would you be happy with "they're private companies, they can do what they want. Just build your own car"?

It's hypocritical nonsense that shouldn't be allowed. Rules for all or rules for nobody.

You are completely correct, trump should have been banned months, if not years, ago.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 06:54PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

You are completely correct, trump should have been banned months, if not years, ago.

And if so, all the other nutters should be banned now too, right?

The problem lies in who is deciding what "nutter" constitutes. And when it's a private company that changes only as much as it likes, that's bad news.

Sticking to the one example, the Malaysian prime minister who declared Muslims have a right to behead french people, that went off without a peep. No big deal, definitely not an incitement of violence

Gradius · 09-01-2021 06:58PM

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Trump wasn't banned for wearing brown shoes, or anything innocuous like that. It was for inciting violence, which was against the t&cs that he agreed to when he signed up.

A better car example would be losing your licence when you use your car to kill someone by hitting them when breaking the speed limit.

Trollocks.

"All Muslims have a right to behead french people", how many bans were handed out for that, and that from a prime minister too?

It's all hyper selective, all about what suits, and that's all that matters to many people.

09-01-2021 06:59PM

Gradius wrote: »

That's all grand, but what about the Malaysian guy stating that Muslims have a right to kill french people?

Is that message, amplified across the world, LESS dangerous than anything Trump said?

What do you think happened or will happen with that type of thing by way of consequence?

Nothing, that's what. And that's plain hypocrisy and bias.

Whataboutery. That was also very wrong and the ex Malaysian PM should have been banned for it.

It's finally taken a crowd of Trump fanatics for twitter to grow a pair and do the right thing.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 06:59PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

As far as MAGA conservatives are concerned, the storming of the Capitol isn't a big issue. The main issue concerning the United States at the minute is Twitter banning Trump.

That's what they want the conversation to be about. Desperate, once again, to portray themselves as the victims.

Chump used this strategy for the whole of his tenure, victim playing has paid off big time. He identifies himself as maligned by the press, the Dems, the unaligned republicans, the rest of the planet...

He tells his patriots he loves them, and that they are the victims of the same nefarious forces that attack him; it's a winning formula.

For Five years, Chump went on with Fake Media and the Press is the enemy of the people, and we should be weeping his loss of a Twitter account.

C'm'on, grow up boys and girls...

09-01-2021 07:00PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

This clown has been arrested

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That fella needs a straight jacket. Pure tapped.

Cody montana · 09-01-2021 07:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

This clown has been arrested

.

"Q sent me*"

*to Prison

Gradius · 09-01-2021 07:01PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you mean the way trump has manipulated public opinion by continually lying to them?

Yes, just like that. And how he was banned.

Just like how others continue to do the same. And aren't banned.

Yes, just like that. Blind arseholes hiding behind a carefully curated version of reality while ignoring the other 99% of what's happening because it suits their microscopic worldview.

Dressoutlet · 09-01-2021 07:01PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The guy who sat in Pelosis chair and put his feet on her desk has been arrested.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/fbi-arrest-rioter-pelosi-office-456580

He doesn't look so happy in his mugshot

I think he tested positive for covid too

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 07:02PM

Gradius wrote: »

Trollocks.

"All Muslims have a right to behead french people", how many bans were handed out for that, and that from a prime minister too?

It's all hyper selective, all about what suits, and that's all that matters to many people.

when was that posted and by who? I assume you have a link to the tweet?

everlast75 · 09-01-2021 07:03PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

This clown has been arrested

.

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1347964952754196480?s=19

"Other patriots, eh? Tell me more!"

Foxtrol · 09-01-2021 07:03PM

There is never ending hypocrisy from right wingers on the subject of what a private company can and cant do and what free speech is or isn't.

This is all an obvious tactic to distract and make themselves the victim because they don't want to face the facts of what their supporters did this week.

09-01-2021 07:03PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

I think he tested positive for covid too

Ffs, superspreader event probably so.

I wonder how well sanitised the place was afterwards as they were back doing business in the chamber fairly quickly.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 07:04PM

A longer version of the events inside the capitol building. you can hear the terrorists negotiating with the capitol police who eventually just stood aside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiS8MsfSF4

salmocab · 09-01-2021 07:04PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

when was that posted and by who? I assume you have a link to the tweet?

It was just the other day I think and Twitter removed it.

Christy42 · 09-01-2021 07:04PM

Gradius wrote: »

Trollocks.

"All Muslims have a right to behead french people", how many bans were handed out for that, and that from a prime minister too?

It's all hyper selective, all about what suits, and that's all that matters to many people.

You keep acting as if anyone has been defending it. As an aside the post was deleted by twitter. Far too slowly as it required the French government to step in as they had initially only given a flag on it like many of Trump's posts. Trump also had posts removed for earlier breaches and plenty of warnings. He probably should be banned imo but your posts make it sound like no action was taken on it.

Heck Trump's statements didn't even get him banned till people took action on the back of them and even then his account was only initially suspended so they were hardly quick with him either.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 07:04PM

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

Ffs, superspreader event probably so.

I wonder how well sanitised the place was afterwards as they were back doing business in the chamber fairly quickly.

they were ****ting and pissing on the floor so I cant imagine it was well sanitised at all.

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 07:05PM

salmocab wrote: »

It was just the other day I think and Twitter removed it.

so twitter acted then. whats the problem?

Gradius · 09-01-2021 07:06PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

when was that posted and by who? I assume you have a link to the tweet?

I assume you can use Google. Feel free, unless youre drowned in search results of prime ministers declaring murder of french people too hard to distinguish

Regardless, it's merely one of the countless daily bullshyt of inciting violence all across the platform from people with extensive reach.

And no, I don't have links to serve up to you, the same way I'm not going to take a picture of the sky to prove its there.

Foxtrol · 09-01-2021 07:07PM

MontgomeryClift wrote: »

No. I saw that part, and the part after where the civilian put down the officer's visor to protect him from further harm and gestured for someone to come help him. It wasn't disturbing.

Yeah, the cop is having a great time, they really protected him well. Good to see police being injured doesn't disturb you.

The same MAGA scum will claim to support the police the next time they shoot an unarmed black person.

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1347755399919767555?s=20

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 07:07PM

Gradius wrote: »

I assume you can use Google. Feel free, unless youre drowned in search results of prime ministers declaring murder of french people too hard to distinguish

Regardless, it's merely one of the countless daily bullshyt of inciting violence all across the platform from people with extensive reach.

And no, I don't have links to serve up to you, the same way I'm not going to take a picture of the sky to prove its there.

and how did twitter react? somebody else said that the tweet was deleted.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 07:17PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

A longer version of the events inside the capitol building. you can hear the terrorists negotiating with the capitol police who eventually just stood aside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiS8MsfSF4

At 6;53, the Nobel laureate that shot this video says pretty clearly that "we need to get this **** burned".

Let's put it down to free'm of 'spression.

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 07:20PM

Right wingers might get further with this talking point if the rest of us hadn't been subject to the standards suddenly applying to them for years. I know of people who got banned for days at a time for calling Tomi Lahren a "bimbo" or posting screenshots of the threats *they themselves* were getting in DMs.

Twitter already admitted they were struggling to figure out how to apply a moderation algorithm because so many Republican political figures break the rules so regularly they were afraid to look "biased" by applying them. Right wingers are so used to getting away with working the ref being subject to fair treatment comes as a system shock.

Just like everything else seems to be with them, their supposed issue with censorship amounts to being outraged the rules for everyone else might apply to them the same way after all.

Dressoutlet · 09-01-2021 07:23PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Right wingers might get further with this talking point if the rest of us hadn't been subject to the standards suddenly applying to them for years. I know of people who got banned for days at a time for calling Tomi Lahren a "bimbo" or posting screenshots of the threats *they themselves* were getting in DMs.

Twitter already admitted they were struggling to figure out how to apply a moderation algorithm because so many Republican political figures break the rules so regularly they were afraid to look "biased" by applying them. Right wingers are used to getting away with working the ref being subject to fair treatment comes as a system shock.

Just like everything else seems to be with them, their supposed issue with censorship amounts to being outraged the rules for everyone else might apply to them the same way after all.

I got a ban for calling my best friend a Milf

francois · 09-01-2021 07:24PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1347964952754196480?s=19

"Other patriots, eh? Tell me more!"

https://twitter.com/Niccole_Rovang/status/1347965537649741824?s=19

ðŸ˜‚

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 07:24PM

The nice thing is, everybody is carrying a phone nowadays. You can pinpoint everyone who was inside the Capitol building on the day. Retrieve their video, etc...

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 07:26PM

Speaking of bearskin guy, I would be real interested to know what that big block tattoo in the shape of Thor's hammer is covering.

09-01-2021 07:27PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

A longer version of the events inside the capitol building. you can hear the terrorists negotiating with the capitol police who eventually just stood aside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiS8MsfSF4

Unbelievable footage. The news channels really did not capture the scale on the level that this footage did. I have a small bit more sympathy for the cops now. They were absolutely overran. A massive policing failure.

Also sheds light on the context around the shooting of that lady. Fully justified and stopped the mob immediately from entering what I assume was a very protected area.

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