Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

salmocab · 09-01-2021 05:09PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes, just like rte isn't allowed to have hardcore pornography on at 11am in the morning.

And no, common sense isn't communism.

It's all or nothing if you want to be fair. All are allowed speak, or none are allowed speak. Bias shouldn't be allowed.

RTÉ can’t have hard core porn at 11am because it’s the rules, if they broke the rules they would be punished. This is exactly what’s happened to trump.

jam_mac_jam · 09-01-2021 05:12PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

So you want the Government to regulate and determine what social media can be used for. Do we include the press and media in this?

Sounds an awful lot like communism to me.

No. Authoritarian is what you are thinking of. Both communist and fascist governments had strict control of the press.

So not just communism also fascism.

Movementarian · 09-01-2021 05:13PM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

This is a power grab. No more and no less.
All alternative news views and posts will be purged.
If anyone supports this Orwellian insanity they can't say they weren't warned.

The exact same things were said when Obama's first term started, purge, socialism, country is gone bla bla.

None of that happened.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:13PM

salmocab wrote: »

RTÉ can’t have hard core porn at 11am because it’s the rules, if they broke the rules they would be punished. This is exactly what’s happened to trump.

Meanwhile a trillion other infractions are given the green light, like the Chinese celebrating cheekily over genocide.

One rule for ye and another for thee is point blank bias.

So yes, rules are needed that are fair and equal and common sense. Again, private companies selling a product that affects everyone, regardless of them buying the product, can no longer claim to be private. They are public domain, like it or lump it.

salmocab · 09-01-2021 05:16PM

Gradius wrote: »

Meanwhile a trillion other infractions are given the green light, like the Chinese celebrating cheekily over genocide.

One rule for ye and another for thee is point blank bias.

So yes, rules are needed that are fair and equal and common sense. Again, private companies selling a product that affects everyone, regardless of them buying the product, can no longer claim to be private. They are public domain, like it or lump it.

Well now you said ‘like it or lump it’ I see you have won the discussion.

PropJoe10 · 09-01-2021 05:16PM

All this "Big Tech" nonsense in this thread in the past 24 hours is absolutely cringeworthy. If people can't understand the difference between "freedom of speech" and inciting hatred/spewing lies, then I don't think anyone can help them at this point.

Trump has used his Twitter platform to spread downright lies and nonsense to over 80 million followers. That is incredibly damaging to the fabric of society. There should rightly be a debate on how social media platforms regulate and moderate that sort of thing in the future, but at the end of the day, tell lies and face the consequences. It's about time Trump faced them. Long overdue.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:17PM

salmocab wrote: »

Well now you said ‘like it or lump it’ I see you have won the discussion.

As opposed to your brain fart above?

namloc1980 · 09-01-2021 05:18PM

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

This is a power grab. No more and no less.
All alternative news views and posts will be purged.
If anyone supports this Orwellian insanity they can't say they weren't warned.

When the alternative views are the president of the United States inciting insurrection against the country then yeah, you'll get banned from Twitter. The rest of your post is utter nonsense.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:19PM

PropJoe10 wrote: »

All this "Big Tech" nonsense in this thread in the past 24 hours is absolutely cringeworthy. If people can't understand the difference between "freedom of speech" and inciting hatred/spewing lies, then I don't think anyone can help them at this point.

Trump has used his Twitter platform to spread downright lies and nonsense to over 80 million followers. That is incredibly damaging to the fabric of society. There should rightly be a debate on how social media platforms regulate and moderate that sort of thing in the future, but at the end of the day, tell lies and face the consequences. It's about time Trump faced them. Long overdue.

The problem is that some are allowed to fook around, others are not.

When a gigantic company can so easily shape public opinion to suit themselves through manipulation, it's a big problem, and one that needs fixing immediately.

feargale · 09-01-2021 05:23PM

Gradius wrote: »

The problem is that some are allowed to fook around, others are not.

When a gigantic company can so easily shape public opinion to suit themselves through manipulation, it's a big problem, and one that needs fixing immediately.

Like Fox News.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:25PM

feargale wrote: »

Like Fox News.

Yes, like "insert example" here. It's rampant.

Precisely.

Jaded Walker · 09-01-2021 05:27PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

This is genuinely one of the funniest things I've read on here. Fair play.

It's funny but there's a real possibility that he could set up his own social media site and it'd be huge.
Let's be honest, there's hundreds of people on here who despise Trump but followed him on Twitter to report his comments and attack.them. They are going to sign up for his site,if he starts one, just to have access to his comments.
It's quite frightening to.think.this could happen but it really could.

super_furry · 09-01-2021 05:27PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

He ain't smiling now!

.

Disgusting! Arrested for taking a stand.

salmocab · 09-01-2021 05:27PM

feargale wrote: »

Like Fox News.

Like Trump

salmocab · 09-01-2021 05:27PM

super_furry wrote: »

Disgusting! Arrested for taking a stand.

Well played

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:30PM

salmocab wrote: »

Like Trump

Yes, yes, very good.

Any examples of things that go against your personal beliefs, or does your brain break at that point?

Everyone loves censorship when it suits, everyone hates it when it doesn't.

The glaring, blaring hypocrisy, it's funny

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 05:35PM

The guy who sat in Pelosis chair and put his feet on her desk has been arrested.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/fbi-arrest-rioter-pelosi-office-456580

He doesn't look so happy in his mugshot

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salmocab · 09-01-2021 05:36PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes, yes, very good.

Any examples of things that go against your personal beliefs, or does your brain break at that point?

Everyone loves censorship when it suits, everyone hates it when it doesn't.

The glaring, blaring hypocrisy, it's funny

No but I’m sure someone with a brilliant brain like yours can come up with some examples for me.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 05:37PM

Jaded Walker wrote: »

It's funny but there's a real possibility that he could set up his own social media site and it'd be huge.
Let's be honest, there's hundreds of people on here who despise Trump but followed him on Twitter to report his comments and attack.them. They are going to sign up for his site,if he starts one, just to have access to his comments.
It's quite frightening to.think.this could happen but it really could.

Like I said, it is going to happen. He is not isolated, that is bull****. When was the last time you had 75 million people vote for you?

Nah, this only the beginning of Trump, a taste sample, a hors d'oeuvre.

To quote the master tweeter himself ; "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters,"

...and he was right, and continue to be...

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 05:38PM

so a few people were asking yesterday was it really worthwhile impeaching trump at this late stage. By impeachment I mean convicted in the senate. and it seems it is very worth while. apart from banning him from running for further public office it also has the following ramifications:

he loses his presidential pension
he loses the health insurance given to ex-presidents
He loses the office space and staff allocated to ex-presidents
he loses the protection of the secret service

the last is probably the biggest thing. he wont be able to give the Secret Service padded bills for staying in mar a lago and also have to pay for his own protection.

namloc1980 · 09-01-2021 05:39PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

So you want the Government to regulate and determine what social media can be used for. Do we include the press and media in this?

Sounds an awful lot like communism to me.

Isn't this what Trump wants to do with social media looking to eliminate protections for what can be put on social media?

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:42PM

salmocab wrote: »

No but I’m sure someone with a brilliant brain like yours can come up with some examples for me.

"No"

Well no point in going further then, is there? You've admitted in one word that you're implicitly biased.

It's people that "think" like you that need to be kept far away from influencing positions. The championing of unfairness, inequality, and common nonsense. Just once it suits, that's all that matters.

These platforms need to be spanked into reality, the sooner the better.

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 05:42PM

Gradius wrote: »

Yes, yes, very good.

Any examples of things that go against your personal beliefs, or does your brain break at that point?

Everyone loves censorship when it suits, everyone hates it when it doesn't.

The glaring, blaring hypocrisy, it's funny

Poor you.

I hope for your sake he gets to pardon himself before they 25th amendment him out of there.

For Forks Sake · 09-01-2021 05:43PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

He ain't smiling now!

Next-level Florida Man.

Alun · 09-01-2021 05:43PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so a few people were asking yesterday was it really worthwhile impeaching trump at this late stage. By impeachment I mean convicted in the senate. and it seems it is very worth while. apart from banning him from running for further public office it also has the following ramifications:

he loses his presidential pension
he loses the health insurance given to ex-presidents
He loses the office space and staff allocated to ex-presidents
he loses the protection of the secret service

As a matter of interest, does he also get excluded from the security briefings?

SpacialNeeds · 09-01-2021 05:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The guy who sat in Pelosis chair and put his feet on her desk has been arrested.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/fbi-arrest-rioter-pelosi-office-456580

He doesn't look so happy in his mugshot

He'll get at least five years for mail fraud.

Gradius · 09-01-2021 05:45PM

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

Poor you.

I hope for your sake he gets to pardon himself before they 25th amendment him out of there.

Bias showing its arse again.

Nowhere did I mention Trump, that's your brain dreaming. I simply stated the obvious, that different rules for different people is unfair and, considering the impact these companies have, downright dangerous.

For Forks Sake · 09-01-2021 05:46PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so a few people were asking yesterday was it really worthwhile impeaching trump at this late stage. By impeachment I mean convicted in the senate. and it seems it is very worth while. apart from banning him from running for further public office it also has the following ramifications:

he loses his presidential pension
he loses the health insurance given to ex-presidents
He loses the office space and staff allocated to ex-presidents
he loses the protection of the secret service

the last is probably the biggest thing. he wont be able to give the Secret Service padded bills for staying in mar a lago and also have to pay for his own protection.

Banning him from running in the future is probably the one that'll impact him most, as it'll turn off the tap of constant "fundraising" via dodgy PACs if he's prohibited from being a candidate.

No doubt they'll try and circumvent it by putting up Ivanka or Junior as the candidate instead and continue the grift in such a fashion

duploelabs · 09-01-2021 05:47PM

Alun wrote: »

As a matter of interest, does he also get excluded from the security briefings?

Yup.
And his pension, travel allowance, and security detail (it'll be tougher on rikers Island I guess without).

He essentially becomes Joe public, although I'm not sure if he loses the title of president once he's ejected

ohnonotgmail · 09-01-2021 05:47PM

Alun wrote: »

As a matter of interest, does he also get excluded from the security briefings?

well they finish on the 20th anyway but i'm not sure if they will stop while the process of impeachment is ongoing. probably not. they will end as soon as the senate convicts him.

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