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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2762
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    FFVII wrote: »
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25696577

    Vaccines are not looking good against variants.

    Just aswell we cant manage to roll it out.

    That's a meaningless piece from one person with no actual proof backing his assertion.


  • #2763
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    FFVII wrote: »
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25696577

    Vaccines are not looking good against variants.

    Just aswell we cant manage to roll it out.

    When the actual companies behind the vaccines say they're confident the vaccines will work, I believe them.


  • #2764
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    FFVII wrote: »
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25696577

    Vaccines are not looking good against variants.

    Just aswell we cant manage to roll it out.

    this isn't a credible source


  • #2765
    firefish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭firefish


    I agree there’s lots of different factors involved in why we are where we are, and it is too easy to hurl from the ditch. Just seeing a lot of “if the Government has just listened to NPHET...” but I think NPHET didn’t cover itself in glory either in the Autumn. It’s easy to say - well blame the people - but those in charge need to take responsibility for actions that lead people to act in a certain way. You can’t blame the crowd for a deadly surge in a badly designed stadium, the designers must take into account human behaviour.
    At the same time, they are all trying their best to get us through this and I wouldn’t envy them their jobs, or the weight of the decisions they’re having to make, at the current time.


  • #2766
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Actually in my opinion the cheering about us being the lowest in Europe in November did a lot of harm . People got complacent and let their guard down , then along came Christmas and here we are again

    I agree, even at the time i felt we were a bit too quick to be patting ourselves on the back about how great we were. Often these things come back to bite us in the arse, didn't expect it to go as drastic as it did mind you.


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  • #2767
    Fakediamond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    That's worrying, you'd want to go to a GP about that.

    And how would you do that? I rang my G.P.’s surgery daily for two weeks on and off and got a permanent engaged tone, I just gave up eventually. Luckily I wasn’t looking for a COVID test!


  • #2768
    autumnbelle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Has it been discovered if herd immunity does exist? If so with our numbers and uk numbers how long until things slow down. I dunno how the figures are so high did people really go that mad at xmas?


  • #2769
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Fakediamond wrote: »
    And how would you do that? I rang my G.P.’s surgery daily for two weeks on and off and got a permanent engaged tone, I just gave up eventually. Luckily I wasn’t looking for a COVID test!

    We had to phone our GP last week at 9am. Had an appointment for 10.10

    Don't judge them all by your own.


  • #2770
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,732 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    eir are prioritising fixing my dead phoneline /broadband priority means 2 to 3 working days. stay at home !

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #2771
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,824 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Has it been discovered if herd immunity does exist? If so with our numbers and uk numbers how long until things slow down. I dunno how the figures are so high did people really go that mad at xmas?

    Probably a combo of Christmas coupled with the imminent arrival of the vaccine, people become selfish and complacent.. well some people, enough people.


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  • #2772
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    We're around the 5k backlog isn't it?


  • #2773
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    robfowler78 wrote: »
    I agree with parts of what you are saying but unfortunately that view is blinded also. Lockdowns work to bring numbers down but people also need to work, go to school, look after elderly relatives etc. People need to interact on a number of levels so long term a lockdown isn’t sustainable. It’s easy to say it’s the Christmas mixing that caused this but there is also the time of year winter, Government decisions ie telling people 2 weeks before Xmas that they would be locking down on the 6 of nov, NPHET recommended restrictions been over the top when numbers were low. A lot of different factors are at play but the main blame is a new virus that spreads quickly.

    That is exactly the point. Jobs should be the priority. But the way cases have escalated say otherwise. If only people were more sensible we could be with lower level of lockdown and in stable state with most of the jobs still in place. You can blame new virus all you want.


  • #2774
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Arduach wrote: »
    We're around the 5k backlog isn't it?

    Yes, about that. So pick a number between 5 and 10k for cases this evening.


  • #2775
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Yes, about that. So pick a number between 5 and 10k for cases this evening.

    It's clearing the past few days at least.

    A general question, are Saturday swabs relating to Friday? Are they generally lower or higher than other days.

    Thanks.


  • #2776
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Has it been discovered if herd immunity does exist? If so with our numbers and uk numbers how long until things slow down. I dunno how the figures are so high did people really go that mad at xmas?

    It doesn't really look like this exists in any feasible capacity. Cases are shooting up again in Latin America where some places have excess deaths off the charts. Europe would have a much higher IFR than those countries with younger populations anyway, you wouldn't see any herd immunity in Europe without a few million deaths


  • #2777
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2021/0109/1188652-covid19-curfews/
    A north Mayo GP has called for the imposition of regional overnight curfews to reduce the spread of Covid-19.

    Dr Keith Swanick has said a "transient curfew" from 9pm to 6am would help limit social interaction and tackle the rate of infection.

    The Belmullet-based doctor said such an initiative has proven effective in high transmission zones in other parts of the world.

    He made the call after a surge in the number of people who have contracted the virus in the Belmullet Local Electoral Area (LEA) since Christmas.

    But there's virtually nobody travelling at night in this country anyway!

    The proverbial horse has already bolted from the stable in the Belmullet LEA.


  • #2778
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Has it been discovered if herd immunity does exist? If so with our numbers and uk numbers how long until things slow down. I dunno how the figures are so high did people really go that mad at xmas?
    Unlikely anywhere in large numbers. Any testing came up at between 5% and about 20%. Yeah, some people really did embrace the season too much.


  • #2779
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Arduach wrote: »
    It's clearing the past few days at least.

    A general question, are Saturday swabs relating to Friday? Are they generally lower or higher than other days.

    Thanks.

    Yes Saturday swabs relate to swabs processed on Friday. I guess this would include people tested on Thursday or Friday. I don't think Saturday's swabs show any particular pattern.


  • #2780
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Unlikely anywhere in large numbers. Any testing came up at between 5% and about 20%. Yeah, some people really did embrace the season too much.

    The sooner the third wave reaches its peak in this country, the better. Perhaps the ill-considered socialising in the Christmas period has lanced the boil.


  • #2781
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Yes Saturday swabs relate to swabs processed on Friday. I guess this would include people tested on Thursday or Friday. I don't think Saturday's swabs show any particular pattern.

    Thanks very much Sir. I wouldn't have followed swabs that closely until recently. Thanks again.


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  • #2782
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    4962 swabs

    17.99% rate

    Slow progress

    Slow progress but a week ago we would have taken that looking at the trajectory then.


  • #2783
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    iguana wrote: »
    Nah, lockdown just coincided with my mid-life crisis. Having to stay home and detached from normal life is genuinely crap. Few people would choose this. But (if you are lucky enough to be able to stay home) you can make the most of it and use the time to learn stuff you wouldn't have had a chance to otherwise. Comparing it to 'living like a rat' isn't helpful or accurate.

    Sorry it was a term my brother described that I used in an earlier Post using his words. The ongoing lockdowns you have has greatly affect his life, his kids and that of my parents and I probably used it a bit out of context in my post and I’m sorry.


  • #2784
    biggebruv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭biggebruv


    Curious how come some people are allowed in to say goodbye to dying family and others are not a friend in work said they got to see there grandmother before passing and she was positive COVID 19


  • #2785
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    political analyst wrote: »
    The sooner the third wave reaches its peak in this country, the better. Perhaps the ill-considered socialising in the Christmas period has lanced the boil.
    Quite probably next week.


  • #2786
    Jimi H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    Noticed a big drop in traffic on the motorways on my way to work and in Dublin today.


  • #2787
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Quite probably next week.

    Did I hear around 13th Jan predicted for peak? Would expect death rate to keep climbing after that given the lag between hospital admissions and those who are unlucky ending intubated and don't make it. Some scary numbers for the rest of january and into early February I'd imagine.


  • #2788
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Did I hear around 13th Jan predicted for peak? Would expect death rate to keep climbing after that given the lag between hospital admissions and those who are unlucky ending intubated and don't make it. Some scary numbers for the rest of january and into early February I'd imagine.
    Thereabouts. De Gascun repeated next week again today. It's not as clear cut on deaths I think, especially as they are now into at risk groups with vaccinations. Might that be a factor, however small?


  • #2789
    gifted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭gifted


    Jimi H wrote: »
    Noticed a big drop in traffic on the motorways on my way to work and in Dublin today.

    Saturday?


  • #2790
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Can someone explain to me please: We were hoping for vaccines to arrive to take us out of this Covid misery. Now they are here. Yes the roll out has been slow but I firmly believe when Astra Zeneca and Moderna appear they will ramp it up. All nursing home residents and staff will be vaccinated. All staff in hospitals will be vaccinated. The process will move on to the next most vulnerable groups in society.

    Those we are trying to protect will be protected. Eventually the rest of us will be as well. While we may need regular vaccinations such as we have with the flu I still can't for the life of me understand some points of view on here.
    Why should we attempt zero covid now? Why is there still talk of rolling lockdowns? Why can't restrictions be eased when the most at risk are vaccinated?

    I'm not an epidemiologist or a statistician or have first hand experience of working in a Covid ward but I know many intelligent people who have the same questions as what I posted above.


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  • #2791
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gifted wrote: »
    Saturday?

    Lots of people work on a Saturday :)


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