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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    They had their opportunities to challenge election results at every court level in the land. They failed.

    They are willfully ignoring the evidence in order to undermine the democratic process.

    They're only belief is that they should get what they want. That isn't good enough.

    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    Followed by a riot involving Republicans who invaded Capitol Hill and caused the death of five people while crapping all over the constitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    What parallel universe did this happen in?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    I mostly agree. But there is an argument to be made that Twitter has become much more than just a platform for speech, and that the possibility of silencing people on it is a concern. Trumps case however isn't that argument.

    It sets a dangerous precedent for everyone's freedom of expression regardless where on the political spectrum they may be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,120 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    Delusional or disingenuous.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Overheal wrote: »
    I called it! I ****ing CALLED IT.

    Axios’ Jonathan Swan (“it is what it is” interview) reports White House is operating under ‘DEFACTO 25TH AMMENDMENT.’

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jonathan-swan-reports-white-house-under-de-facto-25th-amendment-with-cabinet-ignoring-trump-operating-as-if-he-is-not-the-president/

    Have (and many) suspected since the delay of the national guard. When we learned Pence and the Joint Chiefs acted on that without mentioning Trump.

    F*CK YES, if this means they will not give him the paperwork to issue pardons.

    God damn sex is good but - damn.




    No. Defacto is not good enough. The Republicans need to help to push it through and push him out to make a statement. Even if it is only for a few days. They need to end it in control of the situation and try to start washing themselves of him.



    Will they do it? Possibly given that they can say they are doing it to save him from being impeached.


    Would he be impeached? I'd say it would be close enough. That said, some the Democrats who were drafting the articles, such as Omar, are particularly detested by Republicans. When I saw her pushing it I thought that that might backfire. I would have preferred to see it being driven by a Democrat who is considered less extreme by Republicans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    Yeah sure, Democrat's are the problem here :o:o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    Followed by a riot involving Republicans who invaded Capitol Hill and caused the death of five people while crapping all over the constitution.

    Biden and Harris and Pelosi endorsed BLM last year.

    Why aren't they banned for inciting violence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    It sets a dangerous precedent for everyone's freedom of expression regardless where on the political spectrum they may be.

    Bollox. What happened yesterday was the greatest threat to democracy in the US in the past two centuries.


  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A private company can censor who they like for breaking THEIR RULES. No amount of whinging will change that.

    They can but it is still censorship, despite what is being claimed here. I admire your commitment to property rights, though. I don't have that kind of regard for property myself, certainly not in monopoly situations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,274 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    You would get a more enthusiastic response to the shiite you post here: https://parler.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Tony EH wrote: »
    A private company can censor who they like for breaking THEIR RULES. No amount of whinging will change that.

    They ban people who haven't broken any rules and let loose those who do all the time. Their banning is based on agenda not some noble set of ideals they think will actually improve conversation.

    Places like twitter live off of conflict and social media platforms in general are time vampires who design their sites around manipulating their users to waste as much time as possible. They are not your friends. Nobody voted them in. They're foreign corporations with hard-left stances yet play some of the filthiest capitalist games. Think twice before celebrating their actions no matter how they might seemingly align with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    It sets a dangerous precedent for everyone's freedom of expression regardless where on the political spectrum they may be.

    You mean looting the capitol buildings yes ? ..no ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    jaysus lad will ya give up. Vlad isn't gonna pay you this month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭francois


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

    Lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    It sets a dangerous precedent for everyone's freedom of expression regardless where on the political spectrum they may be.

    Fascists frequently weaponise free speech absolutism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Biden and Harris and Pelosi endorsed BLM last year.

    Why aren't they banned for inciting violence?

    Because they didn't tweet traitorous and egotistical sh1te.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    No it isn't. There is no definition of censorship which says it is only public.

    From wiki ( and pretty much everywhere else).

    Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."[2][3][4] Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.

    Also here is what oxymoron means.

    a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g. faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).

    So who knows what you are going for there. Unless you think that private is contradictory to censorship.

    Twitter simply aren't hosting his content. They're not trying to prevent him from posting his content or spreading messages elsewhere. They have not suppressed his ability to speak.

    If you don't let me make a speech in your house, you have not censored me. If you stop me making a speech anywhere, you have censored me, and that would be private censorship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    You would get a more enthusiastic response to the shiite you post here: https://parler.com/

    Can even go follow the Tangerine One on there

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1347692261816070147


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No. Defacto is not good enough. The Republicans need to help to push it through and push him out to make a statement. Even if it is only for a few days. They need to end it in control of the situation and try to start washing themselves of him.



    Will they do it? Possibly given that the Republicans can do it to save him from being impeached.


    Would he be impeached? I'd say it would be close enough. That said, some the Democrats who were drafting the articles, such as Omar, are particularly detested by Republicans. When I saw her pushing it I thought that that might backfire. I would have preferred to see it being driven by a Democrat who is considered less extreme by Republicans

    I fully agree, but the worst likely thing to me right now that he can do is blanket pardons. If they can at least prevent that from happening if, or while they impeach him, that is a win for the justice column.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,120 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You'd swear the ****er didn't have the press Secretary and the daily brief to spout his BS.

    "Oh no, he's completely muted!"

    He was warned.

    Repeatedly.

    And thick as sh1t as he is, he didn't learn his lesson.

    I guess he'll have to think of something else to do while struggling to bend out a fresh biscuit on the jax.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bollox. What happened yesterday was the greatest threat to democracy in the US in the past two centuries.

    A few lads running amok was no threat to anything really. In any case the US is an oligarchy and a plutocracy, not in any sense - except by hollow formulaic procedures, is it a democracy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,120 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    A few lads running amok was no threat to anything really.

    Complete and utter bullsh1t.

    Try again and see if I can get passed your first sentence

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Posts: 10,049 [Deleted User]


    They believe that both law and order have been usurped by the Democrat steal. They do not recognize Biden as the legitimate President they do not recognise the Senate and Congress as representing the will of the people by endorsing Biden's electors. They believe the Supreme Court reneged on its duty to rule in favour of the challenge to the legitimacy of the election.

    In other words the are suffering as mass delusion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Twitter just banned Trump permanently and Pelosi is looking for his head.

    Do you think they are going to want to listen now?

    They just went through a year of the statues of Lincoln Washington and Jefferson being torn down across their country with police being murdered property looted and burned by mobs of insane Democrats.
    The state of everything this fella has posted over the last couple of days


    In other news it seems BLM have infiltrated the Police Department

    https://twitter.com/alvinmchaga/status/1347014088048701441?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,276 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    As T. S. Elliot wrote:
    "Not with a bang but with a whimper."
    Trump has conceded and will leave office on Jan 20th.
    Impeaching him will not just relight a smouldering candle but ignite an inferno.
    There wouldn't be a return of violence to disrupt the inpeachment hearings and final vote?
    If they can't get through the ring of steel then Congressmen and Senators when they return to their home states will need double or triple their current protection.
    The MAGA crowd are mad as hell and they will make the next 4 years impossible for Biden et al.
    Biden is going to be foolhardy during the next 4 years if he visits red states and isn't prepared for serious civil disturbances. Impeaching Trump is a huge mistake. He has conceded and Biden is taking over. He's talking about getting special powers and the Democrats are baying for blood. He's talking about reparations for black slavery which white conservatives will refuse to pay. He's talking about taking away firearms.
    He never heard of "Come And Take It" then?
    If Trump is banned for life he will just switch from Twitter to Parler and take his followers with him. And if Biden goes too far red states like Texas may simply secede and take other red states with them and elect Trump as their President.
    Be careful what you wish for.
    If Trump were to go on trial it would lead to a firestorm.

    Yeah but TS Eliot also wrote ‘the Jelicle Cats’ which was pretty awful even for a kids poem

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Amirani wrote: »
    Twitter simply aren't hosting his content. They're not trying to prevent him from posting his content or spreading messages elsewhere. They have not suppressed his ability to speak.

    If you don't let me make a speech in your house, you have not censored me. If you stop me making a speech anywhere, you have censored me, and that would be private censorship.

    Oh don’t bother with the “muh censorship caucus.”

    Censorship happens often and is not evil. If I come to your house with an axe, wake you up in the middle of the night to cut through your door, and drag you out of your house and put you in my truck, that might sound like a very terrifying kidnapping - unless I’m a firefighter. Context matters, is my point. #Beau

    Similarly if I censor someone for saying god bless you, that would be wrong. If I banned them for inciting violence? Damn straight that is justified. More justified than censoring swear words on television, or blurring out nipples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Trumo agreed, like every other user, to Twitters Terms of Service when he set up his account.

    The fact that he's violated pretty much every one of them puts him in breach of that agreement with Twitter, and they are 100% within their rights to remove his service.

    Fact that they should have done it years ago (back when he started pushing the Obama Birther nonsense would have been ideal) is a conversation for another day, but there is NO CENSORSHIP at play.

    Trump is well within his rights to set up his own platform if he wants his nonsense heard, other platforms are not obliged to host him.

    He will have a problem if it is true that apple have given parler 24hrs to get their house in order or the app gets pulled. I can see any company associated with trump having difficulty withe store access


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Biden and Harris and Pelosi endorsed BLM last year.

    Why aren't they banned for inciting violence?

    I really wonder what you're trying to achieve with your ridiculous points.

    You're spouting falsehoods all day and now saying Twitter are breaching freedom of expression for banning somebody on their own private platform.

    Just like you here on Boards, you can't just say what you want and if you got banned here there's nothing you can do about it.

    People don't have right to free speech on private websites.


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