Tested Positive.. so what next?

faceman · 08-01-2021 10:49am

Wibbs wrote: »

I know of a surprising number of households(five off the top of my head since this dose came along) where some have been positive(and with symptoms) and some negative while living together. Couples sleeping in the same bed and the like. Which is really bloody odd. With influenza if one brings it into a house the rest of those living there will get it, even the 20% of people who remain asymptomatic would return a positive test. I'm sure some of that are false negatives, but to that degree? It looks more like a viral infection in a partially vaccinated population. Which has added to my longstanding if somewhat hairbrained notion that exposure to a previous "bug" in the population has given some natural resistance in quite a few and explains how smokers are less likely to get it, but if they do suffer worse(which would be what you'd expect) as smokers are more likely to get respiratory infections, so would have been more likely to have caught this previous bug going around. It would also explain the variance in symptoms in people.

Similar, I know of 2 families with the same experience. It’s so bizarre

normanoffside · 08-01-2021 10:58am

Wibbs wrote: »

I know of a surprising number of households(five off the top of my head since this dose came along) where some have been positive(and with symptoms) and some negative while living together. Couples sleeping in the same bed and the like. Which is really bloody odd. With influenza if one brings it into a house the rest of those living there will get it, even the 20% of people who remain asymptomatic would return a positive test. I'm sure some of that are false negatives, but to that degree? It looks more like a viral infection in a partially vaccinated population. Which has added to my longstanding if somewhat hairbrained notion that exposure to a previous "bug" in the population has given some natural resistance in quite a few and explains how smokers are less likely to get it, but if they do suffer worse(which would be what you'd expect) as smokers are more likely to get respiratory infections, so would have been more likely to have caught this previous bug going around. It would also explain the variance in symptoms in people.

According to this study (which I was shocked by but is comprehensive).
Almost 2/3rds don’t pass it to their spouses and only about 16% pass it to housemates.

I mentioned this in the main thread but there must be some superspreaders while most people that develop the disease are only mildly infectious.

Would be great to be able to identify which is which.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102

Wibbs · 08-01-2021 11:30am

normanoffside wrote: »

According to this study (which I was shocked by but is comprehensive).
Almost 2/3rds don’t pass it to their spouses and only about 16% pass it to housemates.

I mentioned this in the main thread but there must be some superspreaders while most people that develop the disease are only mildly infectious.

Superspreaders would be a factor and we've had a few examples of them. The English guy who was one of the first public cases in the UK appears to have been one. He infected a shedload of people. There was another in Korea IIRC that infected hundreds.

How the virus behaves in the general population does seem to mimic a partially vaccinated population. When this notion first occurred to me(over several glasses of red I must admit

) I started to dig around for info of how diseases spread in partially vaccinated populations and found a couple of studies. All were in the US where you get pockets of antivaxxers and religious types who don't vaccinate and you see a similar kind of spread and variance of symptoms like is emerging with covid 19. I'll try and dig the links up.

Otherwise stats like those you mention make little sense. On the one hand it has an R0 of(last time I checked) of between 2-3ish? yet 2/3rd's of those infected aren't infecting their partners, people who in the vast majority of cases are living cheek by jowl with each other, literally sleeping together? It does make sense if there is both a wide range of infectiousness and some latent immunity in the population(genetic, previous exposure to another virus).

LowOdour · 08-01-2021 11:34am

Wife is due to do the weekly shop today. This thread has put the fear of god in to me with the amount of people not knowing how they picked up Covid.

pconn062 · 08-01-2021 11:40am

LowOdour wrote: »

Wife is due to do the weekly shop today. This thread has put the fear of god in to me with the amount of people not knowing how they picked up Covid.

Seriously, she'll be fine. If you're that worried I would suggest taking a break from reading about it on boards/social media/RTE etc. It will do you the world of good.

iamwhoiam · 08-01-2021 11:43am

faceman wrote: »

Similar, I know of 2 families with the same experience. It’s so bizarre

Me too , one positive and others in house negative .Its all very fine saying isolate away from others but we dont all live in Downton Abbey

LowOdour · 08-01-2021 11:51am

pconn062 wrote: »

Seriously, she'll be fine. If you're that worried I would suggest taking a break from reading about it on boards/social media/RTE etc. It will do you the world of good.

I went through all this in the first wave, and getting off these threads on board and avoiding it on twitter did the world of good so you are probably on to something.

Happydays2020 · 08-01-2021 3:06pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Me too , one positive and others in house negative .Its all very fine saying isolate away from others but we dont all live in Downton Abbey

I remember an interview on RTÉ radio in the summer or autumn with a couple who were one of the first cases in Ireland. The woman who normally is never sick got hit really hard by the virus and was hospitalised. The man, who has an annual bad dose of a cold/flue, did test positive but found it to be akin to a light cold.

schmoo2k · 08-01-2021 4:11pm

faceman wrote: »

Similar, I know of 2 families with the same experience. It’s so bizarre

In my house 3 positives and 1 negative (me) - but I did have mild symptoms (out of breath + tickly throat).

I suspect my negative result was more a timing issue (in the same way kids will only test positive for a smaller window than adults).

My theory is that I have a "strong" immune system, given I haven't been properly sick in the last 35+ years, on occasion when there is something going around I may spike a fever, but they have never lasted more than 4 hours or so (while the rest of the house will be feverish for several days).

Needless to say I quarantined as if I had tested positive and plan on getting an antibody test in 2 weeks or so to know for sure (and if positive I will be booking flights for some winter sun!)

odyssey06 · 08-01-2021 4:37pm

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I remember an interview on RTÉ radio in the summer or autumn with a couple who were one of the first cases in Ireland. The woman who normally is never sick got hit really hard by the virus and was hospitalised. The man, who has an annual bad dose of a cold/flue, did test positive but found it to be akin to a light cold.

Reminds me of one of the theories as to why the Spanish Flu seemed to hit adults in their prime hard relative to the elderly... that the older demographic in their youth had been exposed to a virus which gave them some protection against the 'new' Spanish Flu.

charlietheminxx · 08-01-2021 5:01pm

Wasn't there some early research that those who had the BCG vaccine were less likely to contract Covid? I haven't heard anything about that in a while but I wonder if that's a factor where there has been close contact without infection etc.

toodleytoo · 08-01-2021 5:21pm

schmoo2k wrote: »

In my house 3 positives and 1 negative (me) - but I did have mild symptoms (out of breath + tickly throat).

I suspect my negative result was more a timing issue (in the same way kids will only test positive for a smaller window than adults).

My theory is that I have a "strong" immune system, given I haven't been properly sick in the last 35+ years, on occasion when there is something going around I may spike a fever, but they have never lasted more than 4 hours or so (while the rest of the house will be feverish for several days).

Needless to say I quarantined as if I had tested positive and plan on getting an antibody test in 2 weeks or so to know for sure (and if positive I will be booking flights for some winter sun!)

As someone else who tested negative but continues to have aches and pains, where can you get an antibody test? Self isolating anyway but would love to know whether I had it or not

boomerang · 08-01-2021 5:23pm

Can someone tell me please, how soon after you test positive can you return to work? Is it from the date you became symptomatic, or the date of your positive test? Fourteen days or ten?

08-01-2021 5:34pm

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I remember an interview on RTÉ radio in the summer or autumn with a couple who were one of the first cases in Ireland. The woman who normally is never sick got hit really hard by the virus and was hospitalised. The man, who has an annual bad dose of a cold/flue, did test positive but found it to be akin to a light cold.

That's very interesting. I had thought the opposite would apply, if you tend to get bad dose then you'd likely get a bad case of Covid.

talulon · 08-01-2021 5:46pm

LowOdour wrote: »

Wife is due to do the weekly shop today. This thread has put the fear of god in to me with the amount of people not knowing how they picked up Covid.

How many people got the virus while shopping? Social distance and masks and she will be alright.

odyssey06 · 08-01-2021 6:40pm

talulon wrote: »

How many people got the virus while shopping? Social distance and masks and she will be alright.

Concern is how many people don't know where they got the virus... i.e community transmission.
It'd be very hard to establish a chain back to show that someone got it from shopping.

Queried · 08-01-2021 6:59pm

Hi guys

For anyone who has tested positive/recovered and had symptoms, can I ask when you "turned the corner"? Or when you felt the worst was over?

Wishing you all a swift recovery.

RioM · 08-01-2021 7:14pm

Queried wrote: »

Hi guys

For anyone who has tested positive/recovered and had symptoms, can I ask when you "turned the corner"? Or when you felt the worst was over?

Wishing you all a swift recovery.

Day 12 today and I'm 99% recovered.

Galadriel · 08-01-2021 7:16pm

Queried wrote: »

Hi guys

For anyone who has tested positive/recovered and had symptoms, can I ask when you "turned the corner"? Or when you felt the worst was over?

Wishing you all a swift recovery.

I first got symptoms last Sunday, but to be honest I don't have a corner to turn. I just had a light head cold and felt a bit tired.

My cold is mostly gone now and I still feel a bit tired but that could be because I'm cooped up and doing nothing all day!

EDIT: Still don't have my taste or smell back yet!

Tipptatlers · 08-01-2021 7:26pm

Queried wrote: »

Hi guys

For anyone who has tested positive/recovered and had symptoms, can I ask when you "turned the corner"? Or when you felt the worst was over?

Wishing you all a swift recovery.

Tested positive 27th. Day 12 today and feeling at about 50/60 percent and still without taste/smell. This time last week I was in a bad way with my breathing and ended up ringing the GP who said if I got any worse to ring the ambulance.
It started with a slight cough and pain in my lower back, felt like someone kicked me into the back.
I’m 30 years of age and run about 50/60 miles a week so would consider myself relatively fit. It’s odd the way it affects people differently.

Queried · 08-01-2021 7:26pm

Thanks guys! Elderly grandparent tested positive 8 days ago and so far only minor gastric symptoms that we're not sure are actually related to the virus as it wouldn't be unusual anyway. Caught between optimism and worry.

Queried · 08-01-2021 7:29pm

Tipptatlers wrote: »

Tested positive 27th. Day 12 today and feeling at about 50/60 percent and still without taste/smell. This time last week I was in a bad way with my breathing and ended up ringing the GP who said if I got any worse to ring the ambulance.
It started with a slight cough and pain in my lower back, felt like someone kicked me into the back.
I’m 30 years of age and run about 50/60 miles a week so would consider myself relatively fit. It’s odd the way it affects people differently.

You poor thing, sounds like you got a right dose. So strange how very fit people seem to be getting a bad go of it. Hope you're back to 100% asap!

Kav_Piero · 08-01-2021 7:34pm

Queried wrote: »

Hi guys

For anyone who has tested positive/recovered and had symptoms, can I ask when you "turned the corner"? Or when you felt the worst was over?

Wishing you all a swift recovery.

It's been a week since I tested positive and 11 days since I first start showing symptoms, today I have seen good improvement starting to feel a lot better in myself however I still feel very fatigued and my sense of smell and taste has not returned yet.

iamwhoiam · 08-01-2021 8:21pm

RioM wrote: »

Day 12 today and I'm 99% recovered.

Glad you feel much better . Can I ask you do you count days from day of infection or day of first symptoms

RioM · 08-01-2021 8:54pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Glad you feel much better . Can I ask you do you count days from day of infection or day of first symptoms

I first got symptoms on 28th. Pretty bad back pain and aches in joints and muscles. Only slight temp and a tickly cough with a mild head cold feeling. No burning cough or breathing issues. Zero aches since yesterday and only needed full painkillers for 4 days. Not overly tired.

Solli · 08-01-2021 10:12pm

We all got it here on 28th. Young adults out socialising brought it home. TG all of us are over it and strangely us parents were almost asymptomatic (sniffling, sneezing but still out walking - in fields!) while young folk were sick from one day in one case to a few days. By day 8, I started to feel tired and achey which lasted 2 days. Back to walking 4 miles daily since yesterday and but tired in the evenings. At least I’m not dreading this virus any longer. I did not even go to supermarket before Christmas, I was so terrified of long covid. And this area is really badly hit, I suspect with the UK variant, we live in county Limerick.

I notice there are very few volunteering to do food drops now compared to in previous lockdowns. We were miserably hungry a few days and had to get food drops. I want to volunteer to do food drops but am being told by my family we are pariahs in the community for another few weeks!!!

RioM · 08-01-2021 10:24pm

Solli wrote: »

We all got it here on 28th. Young adults out socialising brought it home. TG all of us are over it and strangely us parents were almost asymptomatic (sniffling, sneezing but still out walking - in fields!) while young folk were sick from one day in one case to a few days. By day 8, I started to feel tired and achey which lasted 2 days. Back to walking 4 miles daily since yesterday and but tired in the evenings. At least I’m not dreading this virus any longer. I did not even go to supermarket before Christmas, I was so terrified of long covid. And this area is really badly hit, I suspect with the UK variant, we live in county Limerick.

I notice there are very few volunteering to do food drops now compared to in previous lockdowns. We were miserably hungry a few days and had to get food drops. I want to volunteer to do food drops but am being told by my family we are pariahs in the community for another few weeks!!!

Totally agree with you about food. 4 day wait on an online shop.

Stheno · 08-01-2021 10:33pm

RioM wrote: »

Totally agree with you about food. 4 day wait on an online shop.

You know there are community resources you can contact?

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1345667807724371968?s=19

Also your local GAA may be doing shopping and dropping off

My local Supervalu had a service where you'd phone in.an order and the GAA lads would deliver

Solli · 08-01-2021 11:12pm

Four day wait for us also, local supermarket could not cope with demand for deliveries.

shoppergal · 08-01-2021 11:18pm

In our house the 3 year old had it but neither husband or I or the other 2 kids got it. He was v sick for 2 days and he basically was on me, I slept in with him, he all but coughed directly into my mouth, and I didn't get it. My dad was here for 3 hours on Xmas day, door was open the entire time and he got it.

Tested Positive.. so what next?

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