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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Bambi wrote: »
    Its funny how when Tony Hulahoop was up in arms about more restrictions he wasnt getting upset about flights coming in from South Africa


    Funny business, this public health gig

    Maybe he knew that there are no flights coming in from SA ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    No backlog in the numbers.

    That's nuts. Could easily see 10k plus cases tomorrow

    But how does it match up with the positive swabs figures we have seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    On the basis that there’s 5 million people here and 66 million in the U.K., if you times today’s cases by 13 to have a comparative populace, ours equate to 107,000 cases.

    I’d say it’s much more rampant here currently and there doesn’t seem to be much staying at home going on either.

    No, ours equate to 65k + 39k backlog


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    No backlog in the numbers.

    That's nuts. Could easily see 10k plus cases tomorrow

    The case numbers don't mean that much when they are getting rid of the backlog. The positive swabs are stable and hopefully declining.


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    wadacrack wrote: »
    We cant open up with 300 cases again I'm afraid with the new variant. The R0 needs to be below 0.7. This is going to take a while. With what is likely to unfold in the next few weeks ,Id expect much more caution. None of us want this but we need to make logical decisions

    The R0 will go to 0.7 very quickly, it’s a rate of change not a current status.If we have 5,000 cases per day this week and 3,000 cases per day next week, the r0 is less than 0.7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Azatadine wrote: »
    The case numbers don't mean that much when they are getting rid of the backlog. The positive swabs are stable and hopefully declining.

    I think we'll all be spamming refresh tomorrow on the swabs page to see. I'm slightly optimistic based on the positivity rate stalling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    What in the everlasting f*ck is going on with the numbers? Data shows backlog, the authorities say no backlog.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    On the basis that there’s 5 million people here and 66 million in the U.K., if you times today’s cases by 13 to have a comparative populace, ours equate to 107,000 cases.

    I’d say it’s much more rampant here currently and there doesn’t seem to be much staying at home going on either.

    Staggering how bad a spot we are in now. As you say seems to be complete indifference about how bad out and about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Understandable, it's important for people to realise when they see 1000+ in hospital, around 45% of them are under 65. When you hear headlines state "we're seeing more younger people presenting with covid in hospital", it almost comes across as it being more serious of a dose compared to last year, when in fact it's just more younger people are contracting covid.

    The origin of this was a reply to somebody who stated that we should vaccinate the elderly and the vulnerable and otherwise let it go through the community and open up .
    I was stating that young people are sick with Covid in hospital and more if infection rates allowed to go to a higher level .
    Hence this commentary .
    We may see more young people in hospital relative to older as vaccinations in elderly take effect , but we may also be seeing the start of an increase due to higher infectivity / viral load of the UK variant , or increased severe illness if the SA strain spreads .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    What in the everlasting f*ck is going on with the numbers? Data shows backlog, the authorities say no backlog.

    Source for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Source for this?

    George Lee saying it a few minutes ago and they said yesterday that there's no backlog either.

    Confusing stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    embraer170 wrote: »
    Germany has dozens of large vaccination centres ready all over the country. What is planned in Ireland? It doesn't seem realistic to expect GPs, pharmacies etc. to manage a fast rollout once enough vaccines are available.

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    impfen-134~_v-gseapremiumxl.jpg

    But we already do this every year for flu vaccine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    George Lee saying it a few minutes ago and they said yesterday that there's no backlog either.

    Confusing stuff

    Maybe their definition of backlog is something along the lines of >1 week since positive swab? Who knows :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    GreeBo wrote: »
    But we already do this every year for flu vaccine?

    This is not the same as the flu vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    The origin of this was a reply to somebody who stated that we should vaccinate the elderly and the vulnerable and otherwise let it go through the community and open up .
    I was stating that young people are sick with Covid in hospital and more if infection rates allowed to go toa higher level .
    Hence this commentary .
    We may see more young people in hospital relative to older as vaccinations in elderly take effect , but we may also be seeing the start of an increase due to higher infectivity / viral load of the UK variant , or increased severe illness if the SA strain spreads .

    Ah my bad. I do agree with you. People assuming once 65+ are vaccinated it will mean getting back to a little bit of normality, which as you alluded to 45% of those in hospital are under 65.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    At this rate, we will have over 2,000 in hospital with Covid by next weekend, if not before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭darem93


    There's no reason at all that those SA cases needed to get into the country. I really just do not understand the lack of security at the airports, like it is absolute insanity.

    It is so frustrating when you think that you are trying to do your bit to get it under control and you hear things like this. It's just like what is the point when the government literally allowed the thing to be imported from abroad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    George Lee saying it a few minutes ago and they said yesterday that there's no backlog either.

    Confusing stuff

    Maybe its not a backlog if its less than 3 days??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Donnelly saying he's been holding back vaccines as a buffer. Holding back giving out vaccines...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    darem93 wrote: »
    There's no reason at all that those SA cases needed to get into the country. I really just do not understand the lack of security at the airports, like it is absolute insanity.

    It is so frustrating when you think that you are trying to do your bit to get it under control and you hear things like this. It's just like what is the point when the government literally allowed the thing to be imported from abroad?

    They are petrified to be seen as a closed border government. Sense doesn't come into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Past 14 days, the hospitalization rate of those aged under 65 was 1.08%
    The 14 days up to 20/10/20 that rate was 1.3%

    You're looking at the % of those people hospitalized under 65 as a total of all people hospitalized. Yes that has increased due to the higher incidence rate in the under 65's.

    I'm not taking away from the seriousness of all hospitalizations (regardless of age), but the higher % of the hospitalizations in the under 65's is far better than having a higher % in the over 65's. (apart from children, that's must be an even more horrible and scary experience)

    I only deal with what I see as I have said to you before . Not percentages .
    I leave percentages and swab numbers to those who have a better grasp than I do, and some here are very good posting numbers and statistics day after day . I appreciate them as I would not be confident to do it justice . Thanks spookwoman and majcos.

    As my previous post should have clarified the original statement was to deny that " it was just a disease of the elderly " type of post and that the higher the rate of infection , the higher amounts of younger people affected, and yes hopefully not as badly as over 65s , but it is still an issue .
    No child or even young person is admitted unless they are quite ill , so any hospitalised case is treated as seriously as the next one .
    Any person can take a turn for the worse fairly rapidly with Covid , so the less of any age requiring hospitalisation the better .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Donnelly saying he's been holding back vaccines as a buffer. Holding back giving out vaccines...

    So as to have a margin of safety to guarantee 2nd doses on time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    loughside wrote: »
    Terrible.
    As an aside we here in Northern Ireland have started vaccinating our more vulnerable a second time already..


    ...but then again we`ve left the EU, thrown our little blue flags in the skip and are paddling our own canoe now, thankfully it may have saved several lives.


    Really hope you folk get supply sorted out with the EU soon.

    Seriously hope so for all your sakes up there!
    Your numbers have been unbelievable in the last few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    George Lee saying it a few minutes ago and they said yesterday that there's no backlog either.

    Confusing stuff

    They didn’t say that, they said they were only a day behind now I.e. a backlog of 5 or 6 thousand. Some of our journalists don’t seem to be able to understand English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Jaysis, when the US are appalled at our infection rate...

    https://twitter.com/laineydoyle/status/1347642447510306823?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Good to know .
    But it is still a disappointment that if the lab capacity is there , we haven't got the matching public health capacity to at least validate the cases .
    We are flying blind without this accuracy in numbers , and now it is imperative that our health service needs to know what is coming down the line , more than any time since the first wave .

    You might find this interesting. The red line is the best available data to us. I scraped it from Nolan's presentation on the 4th.
    It's cases based on the date the swab was taken.

    538823.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    They didn’t say that, they said they were only a day behind now I.e. a backlog of 5 or 6 thousand. Some of journalists don’t seem to be able to understand English.

    Ah right, my apologies. Still very confusing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Better off for Ryan Tubridy to shut up about Covid, he seems to be doing more damage than good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    from gov.ie

    As of 7 January 2021, the reporting of cases on CIDR has caught up with the positive laboratory results. In the context of continuing high daily numbers of positive lab results, the lag period between positive lab results being issued and cases being reported on CIDR will generally be 24 to 48 hours. This is the expected time interval for processing and validation of laboratory results and generating cases on CIDR.


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