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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2372
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    At work and in the published statistics .

    Like pulling teeth

    Many people are too busy to be digging through such statistics..

    Could you share the comparative numbers please?


  • #2373
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    talk of a "USA variant" now.


  • #2374
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    approaching 400,000 dead in the US. that is fcuking staggering.


  • #2375
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So the fact that countries went outside the EU commission to secure their own supply is nonsense? Why have we not seen fit to do the same if it's a non issue as you claim. :pac:

    No conspiracy but nice straw man mick.

    By the time we are vaccinated enough for life to return to normal it'll be 2022. Going at a snails pace.

    https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1347602570550849538?s=20

    I count 1.33 million will need to be vaccinated that covers all the nursing homes all the front line workers all over 65s and all at risk groups.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #2376
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Any official source re: the backlog? Mammy won't believe me that there actually is one.


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  • #2377
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Reports online of a 100 strong party in Cork being broken up the other night.

    There is a complete breakdown now in attitudes to the virus.


  • #2378
    ziggyman17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    can the idiots in charge not just shut down the airports ? what is the point in stopping people on the street to ask where they are going, yet the airport seems to be a free for all.


  • #2379
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    caveat emptor wrote: »

    By the time we are vaccinated enough for life to return to normal it'll be 2022. Going at a snails pace.

    What nonsense. The AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines will be very suitable for fast rollout via GPs and pharmacies. We vaccinated over a million people with the flu vaccine in 6 weeks. We will vaccinate at the rate we get supplies, and the supplies will come.


  • #2380
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Re: banning EU flights

    Finland bans flights from Ireland and South Africa until January 18th (UK flights were already banned). I guess we're on the naughty list now.
    The National Institute for Health and Welfare of Finland (THL) said on Friday that passengers arriving from Britain, South Africa and now also Ireland pose a significant risk to the spread of the new variant of the Covid-19 virus to Finland.

    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_bans_passenger_flights_from_ireland_and_south_africa/11729603


  • #2381
    majcos
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    Wolf359f wrote: »
    That's based on the incidence rate per age group. If the infection was confined to just 1 age group, that hospitalization figure would 100%.
    The incidence rate in 19-24 has shot up from ~20 to close to 900, so of course the % of all hospitalizations in that age range would have increased.

    The hospitalization rate for 0-24 has reduced from ~0.8% to ~0.6% in the 14 days up to 21/10 and the 06/01 respectively.

    I was trying to say among the people who are in hospital now compared to April, there are more younger patients in hospital at the moment in the younger age groups, not that a higher percentage of younger people out of the total incidence in that younger age group are admitted.

    I’ll amend my original post to try to clarify that of the current cases hospitalised a higher proportion of those in hospital are under 35 compared to April.


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  • #2382
    Stheno
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Reports online of a 100 strong party in Cork being broken up the other night.

    There is a complete breakdown now in attitudes to the virus.

    18th birthday party


  • #2383
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    can the idiots in charge not just shut down the airports ? what is the point in stopping people on the street to ask where they are going, yet the airport seems to be a free for all.

    Too late to blame the airports... the family and friend slobbering over Xmas has done the damage.


  • #2384
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Its funny how when Tony Hulahoop was up in arms about more restrictions he wasnt getting upset about flights coming in from South Africa


    Funny business, this public health gig


  • #2385
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Because we are getting sufficient supplies before any of this additional stuff youre talking about. It is a nonsense story to try and discredit and undermine the EU.

    It has been rife by British media in recent weeks and you seem happy to jump aboard.

    I'm not trying to do either. If we get enough vaccine first then that's great.


  • #2386
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    What nonsense. The AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines will be very suitable for fast rollout via GPs and pharmacies. We vaccinated over a million people with the flu vaccine in 6 weeks. We will vaccinate at the rate we get supplies, and the supplies will come.

    Seriously If we are getting enough that's great.

    My apologies.


  • #2387
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Any official source re: the backlog? Mammy won't believe me that there actually is one.

    Nolan is quoted about its existence here

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40199865.html%3ftype=amp

    There a chart on this page that tracks cases and swabs. Swabs are initially published on the HSE dashboard and cases through department of health press releases.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


  • #2388
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Seriously If we are getting enough that's great.

    My apologies.

    Yes we are, big orders for both AstraZeneca and J&J. Q2 will see very rapid roll out.


  • #2389
    Tandey
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    froog wrote: »
    approaching 400,000 dead in the US. that is fcuking staggering.

    Wonder how many lives would have been saved had they had a competent President? Half of those maybe?


  • #2390
    fm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭fm


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Re: banning EU flights

    Finland bans flights from Ireland and South Africa until January 18th (UK flights were already banned). I guess we're on the naughty list now.



    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_bans_passenger_flights_from_ireland_and_south_africa/11729603

    There are no flights from Ireland to Finland anyway?


  • #2391
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Nolan is quoted about its existence here

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40199865.html%3ftype=amp

    There a chart on this page that tracks cases and swabs. Swabs are initially published on the HSE dashboard and cases through department of health press releases.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


    Thanks dude :)


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  • #2392
    Wolf359f
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    majcos wrote: »
    I was trying to say among the people who are in hospital now compared to April, there are more younger patients in hospital at the moment in the younger age groups, not that a higher percentage of younger people out of the total incidence in that younger age group are admitted.

    I’ll amend my original post to try to clarify that of the current cases hospitalised a higher proportion of those in hospital are under 35 compared to April.

    Understandable, it's important for people to realise when they see 1000+ in hospital, around 45% of them are under 65. When you hear headlines state "we're seeing more younger people presenting with covid in hospital", it almost comes across as it being more serious of a dose compared to last year, when in fact it's just more younger people are contracting covid.


  • #2393
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Its funny how when Tony Hulahoop was up in arms about more restrictions he wasnt getting upset about flights coming in from South Africa


    Funny business, this public health gig
    From the letter from the CMO Tony Holohan to the Minister of Health setting out NPHET advice.


    Furthermore, latest
    information in relation to the presence of the UK variant here in Ireland and reports of its increased
    transmissibility from the UK are an emerging concern and point to the urgent need for as strict as
    possible adherence to the measures that have been mandated by Government and for measures
    that are as strong as possible in relation to travel, particularly with regard to travel from the UK and
    South Africa.


  • #2394
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,001 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    That's based on the incidence rate per age group. If the infection was confined to just 1 age group, that hospitalization figure would 100%.
    The incidence rate in 19-24 has shot up from ~20 to close to 900, so of course the % of all hospitalizations in that age range would have increased.

    The hospitalization rate for 0-24 has reduced from ~0.8% to ~0.6% in the 14 days up to 21/10 and the 06/01 respectively.

    Go back and look at the hospitalisation rates for the last 14 days under 65s.
    Increased for all age groups .
    Of course it is down to increased numbers of those infected , not saying otherwise.
    4 children hospitalised.


  • #2395
    Polar101
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    fm wrote: »
    There are no flights from Ireland to Finland anyway?

    Used to be 9 direct flights a week, it's been cut to 1 a week recently.


  • #2396
    Stheno
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    Tandey wrote: »
    Wonder how many lives would have been saved had they had a competent President? Half of those maybe?

    If they had the same level as we did, just under 155000 would have died so 250000

    However were they on a par with the UK it would be even higher than now at 431000


  • #2397
    loughside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    Endintheclowns wrote: »
    It will be every man for himself by the end of the month whilst we wave our little blue EU flags.


    Terrible.
    As an aside we here in Northern Ireland have started vaccinating our more vulnerable a second time already..


    ...but then again we`ve left the EU, thrown our little blue flags in the skip and are paddling our own canoe now, thankfully it may have saved several lives.


    Really hope you folk get supply sorted out with the EU soon.


  • #2398
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Tandey wrote: »
    Wonder how many lives would have been saved had they had a competent President? Half of those maybe?

    Remember when the media was up in arms because the incompetent president claimed America would have a vaccine by the end of the year?

    A rum affair, eh?


  • #2399
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Danzy wrote: »
    At current levels with the Pfizer vaccine.

    That's the most difficult and still in short supply.

    Over a million get the flu vaccine each year in a 6 week period here. That's not as exciting as going on about only 100k a week getting a Covid vaccine.

    As capacity builds and straight forward vaccines to give and manufacture, like Astra Zeneca one, numbers will rapidly accelerate.

    A majority of people will be done by August and things will have opened up before that.

    Would of thought would be the case once the Oxford vaccine lands yep.


  • #2400
    [Deleted User]
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Neither . C) roll out vaccinations every year to 2 years as necessary until either the virus dwindles due to lack of hosts or herd immunity achieved .

    There’s not a chance that that many vaccines are delivered to enough people every year / couple of years to maintain immunity in the population. IMO, living with COVID is an inevitability, while we protect those most at risk, as we do now with the flu. It’s either that, or constant lockdowns and border restrictions in perpetuity

    And the latter is simply not an option. Neither is it an option in the long term for NZ and Australia and others that have followed a zero Covid strategy.


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  • #2401
    HalfAndHalf
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    Cole wrote: »
    As it appears to be even more rampant in the UK, can someone explain why their R number is estimated at between 1-1.4 and ours is between 2.4-3?

    On the basis that there’s 5 million people here and 66 million in the U.K., if you times today’s cases by 13 to have a comparative populace, ours equate to 107,000 cases.

    I’d say it’s much more rampant here currently and there doesn’t seem to be much staying at home going on either.


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