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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2342
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    I got the vaccine today. PPSN is how they're keeping records. Still need to hang on to your vaccine record card for the second dose.

    The nurse who gave it to me advised me to laminate it after the second dose and keep it somewhere safe, like with my passport, because we will probably need it again.

    Congratulations Martina !


  • #2343
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Stheno wrote: »
    The South African strain is here

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1347613827110727689?s=19

    If that gets out and becomes on par with "original" and "Kent" variants.

    If this happens we could be in big trouble.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9124931/Pfizer-BioNTech-vaccine-appears-effective-against-mutation-new-coronavirus-variants-study.html


  • #2344
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Germany breaking EU rules.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/florianeder/status/1347603027365134336

    They no longer do daily. have to go through the 14 day report and work out the differences.

    6th midnight looks like 1 45-54
    2 55-64
    3 65-74
    1 85+


  • #2345
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Germany breaking EU rules.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/florianeder/status/1347603027365134336

    We will be the best boys in Europe and just sit back and die waiting for our doses


  • #2346
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    People don't need the government to tell them not to put their hand in a fire.

    Personal responsibility and some cop on.

    Can't always blame the government when you make a balls of things yourself.

    Exactly. Everyone's going around blaming the govt as if they have no minds of their own. It doesn't take much intelligence to know that having 3 households visit you with no social distancing, or remainng in a pub or restaurant when you realise they're ignoring regulations, or going into the office for non essential reasons because you're bored at home or missing the banter, or encouraging family members to fly home for Christmas from England after the new strain became apparent is risky and selfish behaviour.


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  • #2347
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1347628863480881158?s=20


  • #2348
    Endintheclowns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    Horrific what's happening in the UK. Some of the reports from hospital staff are heartbreaking.


  • #2349
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Germany breaking EU rules.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/florianeder/status/1347603027365134336

    In fairness to them, they consistently do across numerous issues and nothing is ever done.


  • #2350
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The public got what they asked for. Most of these decisions are in large part influenced and informed by public polls, most people in the country felt a relaxation of restrictions was necessary and appropriate. The government advised as much as they could,' you're not doing it right if Christmas feels the same 'campaign etc.. I really don't think the government can be blamed much for this.

    Really most of the polls called for more restrictions. Any link?


  • #2351
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,997 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    majcos wrote: »
    Yes. There is an increase in admissions in younger age groups.

    Among admissions up to April 15th versus last 14 days up to 6th of January, the percentage of total hospitalised cases by age group has changed as follows:

    0-24 years increased from 3.1% to 8.77%
    24-34 years increased from 6.6 to 9.66%
    35-44 years slight increase from 8.1% to 8.4%

    435/901 people hospitalized in 14 day period up to 6/1/2021 are under 65 years.

    Also 4 children hospitalised in Crumlin, 2 in intensive care . Hopefully recovering.


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  • #2352
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    majcos wrote: »
    Yes. There is an increase in admissions in younger age groups.

    Among admissions up to April 15th versus last 14 days up to 6th of January, the percentage of total hospitalised cases by age group has changed as follows:

    0-24 years increased from 3.1% to 8.77%
    24-34 years increased from 6.6 to 9.66%
    35-44 years slight increase from 8.1% to 8.4%

    435/901 people hospitalized in 14 day period up to 6/1/2021 are under 65 years.

    That's based on the incidence rate per age group. If the infection was confined to just 1 age group, that hospitalization figure would 100%.
    The incidence rate in 19-24 has shot up from ~20 to close to 900, so of course the % of all hospitalizations in that age range would have increased.

    The hospitalization rate for 0-24 has reduced from ~0.8% to ~0.6% in the 14 days up to 21/10 and the 06/01 respectively.


  • #2353
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Neither . C) roll out vaccinations every year to 2 years as necessary until either the virus dwindles due to lack if hosts or herd immunity achieved .

    If repeat vaccinations are required it will be because immunity does not last. Therefore herd immunity will not be possible.


  • #2354
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Endintheclowns wrote: »
    I read on the journal Denmark are vaccinating 60k people a day and we are vaccinating 35k a week. Can't be true no?

    @OleRyborg
    ·
    11m
    All people living in care homes in Denmark have now been vaccinated. Vaccination started on 27 Decembe


  • #2355
    Follow_ur_lead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭Follow_ur_lead


    Mad to think that the South African strain is now travel with serious restrictions on travel.

    For those who believe that this thing wasn't in Ireland on later 2019 early 2020 have a think again. If it was in Italy / France in Jan 2020 it must have been here too.


  • #2356
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    We will be the best boys in Europe and just sit back and die waiting for our doses

    Looks like it.....

    https://twitter.com/Insurance_Rich/status/1347622140942688263?s=20


  • #2357
    Endintheclowns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Endintheclowns


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Looks like it.....

    https://twitter.com/Insurance_Rich/status/1347622140942688263?s=20

    It will be every man for himself by the end of the month whilst we wave our little blue EU flags.


  • #2358
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    Exactly. Everyone's going around blaming the govt as if they have no minds of their own. It doesn't take much intelligence to know that having 3 households visit you with no social distancing, or remainng in a pub or restaurant when you realise they're ignoring regulations, or going into the office for non essential reasons because you're bored at home or missing the banter, or encouraging family members to fly home for Christmas from England after the new strain became apparent is risky and selfish behaviour.

    I agree with you, people should take personal responsibility but we all know that many people don't (the situation we are in proves this) and its those same people who heard the government say that its all "allowed" and behaved accordingly. The government ignored the public health advice back in oct/nov about going back into lockdown, actively undermined it too, and then when they essentially did take action it was presented as a way to "save christmas". The narrative around the whole thing was "do this now to save christmas".

    Anybody who was already taking personal responsibility continued to do so over christmas. And watched on knowing that the government had failed them. Again. Its not the people who are already on board who need the government to take action on this, its everyone who will continue to do these things while they are still open/permissable.


  • #2359
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Endintheclowns wrote: »
    It will be every man for himself by the end of the month whilst we wave our little blue EU flags.

    Surely the doses ordered by the EU will arrive before these doses, been discussed multiple times


  • #2360
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Looks like it.....

    https://twitter.com/Insurance_Rich/status/1347622140942688263?s=20

    What you fail to discuss whilst you peddle conspiracy is that these additional doses won't be delivered until after the first EU tranch.

    Nonsense post


  • #2361
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Fly_away wrote: »
    Has anybody in government, even with the benefit of hindsight (ignore for a moment that people predicted this - nobody was sure to what extent cases would rise), admitted that they made a massive mistake with the opening up around Xmas and allowing households to mix?

    I think it's important for clarity sake and future communications that the government own up to this enormous error in judgment.

    A lot of people wanted to celebrate Christmas. The government agreed. Cant change the past. Which ever way they went they couldn't win. I don't think anyone really expected this much of an increase.


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  • #2362
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    What you fail to discuss whilst you peddle conspiracy is that these additional doses won't be delivered until after the first EU tranch.

    Nonsense post

    Parallel negotiations were banned, Germany certainly breached this, assume Denmark did also.


  • #2363
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Looks like it.....

    https://twitter.com/Insurance_Rich/status/1347622140942688263?s=20

    The EU finished negotiating with Pfizer. Germany started negotiating with Pfizer. There was no negotiating in parallel therefore the rules were not breached.


  • #2364
    JazzyJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    The figures vary wildly daily but the trend is clear. Here's hospitalisation if that helps

    The hospitalisation will certainly continue increasing over the next few days as there's a lag, but I think in terms of cases were starting to see things plateau. The inclusion of the backlog in the cases graph hides that slow down.


  • #2365
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    maebee wrote: »
    When did the period of self-isolation from a positive result drop from 14 days to 10 days?

    My son tested positive on Jan 4th and has been staying in his GF's house, where they're all positive, since then. He's asking can he come back home on the 14th
    Ten days provided no symptoms for last five days of that period.

    14 days as a close contact is longer as it allows for the incubation period.

    10 days from positive test as already over the incubation period whether symptomatic or not as now have detectable virus.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/publications/informationleafletsforthegeneralpublic/Self-isolation%20leaflet.pdf


  • #2366
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Really most of the polls called for more restrictions. Any link?

    Exactly.

    The restrictions were relaxed in the financial interests of retailers and the hospitality industry, not to "save Christmas" for the public.


  • #2367
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    neonsofa wrote: »
    I agree with you, people should take personal responsibility but we all know that many people don't (the situation we are in proves this) and its those same people who heard the government say that its all "allowed" and behaved accordingly. The government ignored the public health advice back in oct/nov about going back into lockdown, actively undermined it too, and then when they essentially did take action it was presented as a way to "save christmas". The narrative around the whole thing was "do this now to save christmas".

    Anybody who was already taking personal responsibility continued to do so over christmas. And watched on knowing that the government had failed them. Again. Its not the people who are already on board who need the government to take action on this, its everyone who will continue to do these things while they are still open/permissable.

    Yes I agree with that. Probably the same people who moan about the 'nanny state' when everything has to be regulated for because of idiots who quote their rights and entitlements or say 'there' s no law against it' when called out on inconsiderate behaviour.


  • #2368
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    What you fail to discuss whilst you peddle conspiracy is that these additional doses won't be delivered until after the first EU tranch.

    Nonsense post

    So the fact that countries went outside the EU commission to secure their own supply is nonsense? Why have we not seen fit to do the same if it's a non issue as you claim. :pac:

    No conspiracy but nice straw man mick.

    By the time we are vaccinated enough for life to return to normal it'll be 2022. Going at a snails pace.

    https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1347602570550849538?s=20


  • #2369
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So the fact that country's went outside the EU commission to secure their own supply is nonsense? Why have we not seen fit to do the same if it's a non issue as you claim. :pac:

    No conspiracy but nice straw man mick.

    Because we are getting sufficient supplies before any of this additional stuff youre talking about. It is a nonsense story to try and discredit and undermine the EU.

    It has been rife by British media in recent weeks and you seem happy to jump aboard.


  • #2370
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    Yes I agree with that. Probably the same people who moan about the 'nanny state' when everything has to be regulated for because of idiots who quote their rights and entitlements or say 'there' s no law against it' when called out on inconsiderate behaviour.

    This exactly. The same people who will say you're "brainwashed" for wearing a mask, but then kick up a fuss in hospital when they don't get seen to fast enough.
    Those who want all their rights without any of the responsibility.


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  • #2371
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So the fact that countries went outside the EU commission to secure their own supply is nonsense? Why have we not seen fit to do the same if it's a non issue as you claim. :pac:

    No conspiracy but nice straw man mick.

    By the time we are vaccinated enough for life to return to normal it'll be 2022. Going at a snails pace.

    https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1347602570550849538?s=20

    At current levels with the Pfizer vaccine.

    That's the most difficult and still in short supply.

    Over a million get the flu vaccine each year in a 6 week period here. That's not as exciting as going on about only 100k a week getting a Covid vaccine.

    As capacity builds and straight forward vaccines to give and manufacture, like Astra Zeneca one, numbers will rapidly accelerate.

    A majority of people will be done by August and things will have opened up before that.


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